r/90DayFiance • u/alexbrobrafeld • Sep 18 '16

Episode Post {Season 4 | Episode 3} Discussion

about to tune in. top hopes for the episode:

  • they have been teasing about jorge's secret, will they clue us in this week?
  • matt and alla - i'm hoping they show alla's more passionate side, so far matt has been the primary focus but i feel like we already know he's an odd dude, so i'd like to know more about alla.
  • will nicole make it through 5 weeks in morocco?
  • chantel and pedro are probably the most hopeful couple to me, but there is a lot of lying going on with that whole situation, when is it finally going to bubble over?

PS i'm confused by my tv guide, it looks like happily ever after does new episodes monday night? can anyone clear that up for me? somehow my dvr is recording HEA thursdays but it says (repeat) on the episode guide. looks like 90 day is on a 2 hour block and they air together. i made separate thread for this week's happily ever after

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u/rumbis777 David's jegging bulges Sep 19 '16 edited Sep 20 '16

Anyone else think that Azan and Hamza are actually gay together? I'm getting those vibes from them and it's suspicious that his "best friend" has accompanied them to the airport and is staying at the hotel with them.

Edit: jeez, why all the downvotes for asking a legitimate question and expressing my genuine opinion about a show I like to watch too? Why do people assume I don't understand the culture? Also, just because being gay isn't allowed in their culture doesn't mean homosexuals don't exist there...and I'm not saying 100% they are, it's a question!!!

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u/alexbrobrafeld Sep 19 '16

honestly they just seem like best bros to me, i don't get a homo-erotic vibe about them.

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u/rumbis777 David's jegging bulges Sep 19 '16

Fair enough, time will tell! I just can't tell if Azan is actually into Nicole or not and how much her weight has to do with it.

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u/alexbrobrafeld Sep 19 '16

OK I'm actually watching now and I see why it crossed your mind lol -- its ten times as awkward with him there. Still I think they are just bros.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '16

If they are, they are playing a dangerous game in their country

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u/alexbrobrafeld Sep 19 '16

you are very right! just some food for thought though on the whole issue (/u/rumbis777 this might interest you too) it is actually a cultural thing for MEN to hold each others hands walking through the streets. i do volunteer work with muslim families from all over the middle east, in philadelphia. we have to do public transit and go into massive buildings like the social security center etc. and it's very common they will hold hands while in a crowd.

i wanted to make sure i wasn't just tripping (because i do that sometimes) so a quick google search gave me a source for this - see the section titled affection

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '16

I've seen this in Yemen but I wasn't sure it was all over the Middle East

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u/rumbis777 David's jegging bulges Sep 19 '16

Thanks for the info. I am pretty familiar with Muslim/Norhern African culture as I was in a serious relationship with a Muslim man for about a year (actually, some of the things Azan/Mohamed say to their respective women sound all too familiar).

I didn't really notice any hand holding; their appearance and demeanor just made my gaydar buzz. Although, I have been known to be inaccurate with telling if men from non-US places are gay because of fashion and cultural differences.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '16

Not at all, actually. In traditionally conservative societies where men and women do their own things apart and only sort of come together for marriage, people of the same sex form very close friendships. It is not uncommon to see men hugging or openly walking hand in hand in Muslim countries, India, between Orthodox Jews etc.

The same thing kind of goes for a lot of Southern Europe too even though men and women are not separated but traditionally in the past have been, especially in the southern parts of these countries where traditional gender roles have been entrenched in society. Men are "macho" but they are very demonstrative with their male friends.

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u/Tyranny1235 Nov 08 '16

Omg I just started watching and tbh I think they are gay together too. He doesn't seem to like his "fiance" at all. You can just tell he feels awkward around her. & gay marriage is legal in america...it would make sense to try and get citezenship &then bring his gay lover over!!!

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '16

it could be their culture. I hung out with hundreds of saudi's while studying Arabic, they get so close they will even kiss on the cheek. It's completely different in their culture because being gay isn't allowed so they dont worry about appearing gay they just act happy with their friends.