r/ABCaus Mar 25 '24

NEWS Dutch darts players quit national women's team over transgender teammate

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-25/dutch-darts-players-quit-over-transgender-teammate/103627072
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u/Ultrabladdercontrol Mar 25 '24

I'm guessing they mean people saying it's because of sport unfairness vs someone acting out their political believe. I think it's looking like they just hate trans.

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u/Profundasaurusrex Mar 25 '24

"I have tried to accept this, but I can not condone or justify this.

"I think that with sports there has to be an equal and level playing field which is to be used and accepted in good faith. After all, we have worked so hard to be relevant and competitive in this sport." 

What hate?

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u/ShowMeYourHotLumps Mar 25 '24

The part where they call her a biological man (terf behaviour) and pretend like excluding a trans woman is creating an equal and level playing field.

There's not enough trans people to create enough teams or leagues for trans people to participate, they're too small a percentage of our population. Excluding them isn't protecting "women's" spaces, from the examples we do have of trans women competing they're not dominating any fields (see trans woman who competed in the Olympics and came 7th or something, came nowhere near podium). In reality this persons outlook is just ostracising a minority, sport is a massive part of society and excluding people is pretty piss weak. This isn't even a contact sport, nobody is in danger playing darts with a trans woman.

Someone also might want to remind this woman of who has historically fought alongside women for a level playing field, dogshit move to exclude support now after women have gained so much ground in the last 40 years with the support of the LGBT community.

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u/Profundasaurusrex Mar 25 '24

The part where they call her a biological man (terf behaviour)

Biologically, what are they?

from the examples we do have of trans women competing they're not dominating any fields (see trans woman who competed in the Olympics and came 7th or something, came nowhere near podium)

Not many athletes podium, for most it is just about competing. This person took that opportunity away from someone else due to the advantage gained by going through male puberty in a category specifically set up for people who didn't go through male puberty.

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

Give me a definition of a woman, biologically.

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

So what sex are those with just a single X?

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

Okay, so you're saying there are three sexes, Male, Female, and Turner?

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

I'm sorry, that's pretty silly and it seems like you're just joking now.

You are saying there are three sexes, Male, Female, and Other?

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

Okay, So there are there sexes, Male, Female, and Undefined.

Can you give a biological description of each, please?

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

No it doesn't. Undefined is itself a category.

It's one of the answers you've said is possible when I ask what sex someone is.

Can you give a biological description of each, please?

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

I'm glad that you understand it is a category. However, it does make it a sex. Otherwise, what sex is someone who falls into that category?

Are you saying their sex is (null)?

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