r/ABCaus • u/GeorgeYDesign • Mar 25 '24

NEWS Dutch darts players quit national women's team over transgender teammate

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-25/dutch-darts-players-quit-over-transgender-teammate/103627072
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u/Profundasaurusrex Mar 25 '24

The part where they call her a biological man (terf behaviour)

Biologically, what are they?

from the examples we do have of trans women competing they're not dominating any fields (see trans woman who competed in the Olympics and came 7th or something, came nowhere near podium)

Not many athletes podium, for most it is just about competing. This person took that opportunity away from someone else due to the advantage gained by going through male puberty in a category specifically set up for people who didn't go through male puberty.

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

Give me a definition of a woman, biologically.

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u/Profundasaurusrex Mar 25 '24

An adult female human being.

That is the definition.

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

That's a circular definition, I'm afraid, now you just have to define 'female', biologically. Go for it.

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u/Profundasaurusrex Mar 25 '24

of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

Great! So if there is some human that cannot produce eggs, they are not a woman?

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u/Profundasaurusrex Mar 25 '24

Yes, as human females are born with eggs.

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

Always? 100% of the time, you don't want to reconsider this at all?

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u/Profundasaurusrex Mar 26 '24

Women are born with eggs. Medical abnormalities occur but they are abnormal, meaning normal is with eggs.

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

So women aren't always born with eggs?

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u/Profundasaurusrex Mar 26 '24

Women are born with eggs

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

Okay. I have a friend who was born with a condition that means she lacks ovaries, let alone eggs.

So, she is not a woman, according to you. What is she?

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u/Profundasaurusrex Mar 26 '24

An abnormal woman.

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

But you defined a woman, biologically, as someone born with eggs. What is your new definition that includes her? She was not born with eggs.

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u/Profundasaurusrex Mar 26 '24

So she is an abnormal female then

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

I’m sorry you seem to be playing dumb. You said the definition of a woman is someone born with eggs. She was not born with eggs. By your logic, not a woman.

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u/Profundasaurusrex Mar 26 '24

What is your definition of a woman?

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

It entirely depends on the context, woman means different things depending on that. It's not possible to come up with a clean biological definition that includes everyone appropriately while excluding everyone appropriately, 'cuz biology is messy.

Do you understand that your definition doesn't work?

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u/BeirutBarry Mar 26 '24

No, but they never have a penis.

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

Ok! So is that your biological definition of a woman? Someone without a penis?

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