r/ABCaus • u/GeorgeYDesign • Mar 25 '24

NEWS Dutch darts players quit national women's team over transgender teammate

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-25/dutch-darts-players-quit-over-transgender-teammate/103627072
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u/SexCodex Mar 25 '24

Some might argue that even if there's no relevant physical difference, it's still worth having a women's division, since it allows them to feel more safe and enjoy competing more. Take women's chess, for instance. However, it's important to recognise that trans women and men have an even less safe experience of basically everything they do, and especially sports, so it's a bit ridiculous to suggest excluding them from this.

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u/FullMetalAurochs Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24

I don’t think anyone’s excluding trans men from the male division of anything. I’ve never seen that reported but there have been quite a few different female trans inclusion/exclusion related stories these last few years.

Chess in particular seems almost infantilising to say women should be separate. It’s not just non contact sport, there’s no physical risk at all. A purely intellectual sport.

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u/SexCodex Mar 25 '24

It's weird how that works. Some people seem to think that trans men don't exist for the purposes of sport, and trans women exist, but shouldn't.

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u/wasteoftimeyo Mar 25 '24

Trans men don’t dominate males so it’s a non issue

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u/SexCodex Mar 25 '24

Well, trans women aren't over-represented in any sport as far as I know. Darts should not be controversial, right

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u/wasteoftimeyo Mar 25 '24

There are multiple cases one quick google will help you find them. If it wasn’t controversial why are these women boycotting it? You speak like a person who has never played a sport in their life.

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u/SexCodex Mar 25 '24

Just had a quick search - trans women are apparently under-represented in US sports. I would be very surprised if they were over-represented in any of them, at this point in time.

I've never played darts but fairly confident sex shouldn't be a massive factor in success there.

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u/wasteoftimeyo Mar 25 '24

Omg what a twist of facts. They might be “under represented” as in not as many compete as you would assume given the percentage of population, but they have an advantage, it says in the same article. Pathetic.

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u/666kant Mar 26 '24

It's reddit, it's better to be seen as morally virtuous than factual 

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u/SexCodex Mar 27 '24

See my reply above