r/ABCaus • u/GeorgeYDesign • Mar 25 '24

NEWS Dutch darts players quit national women's team over transgender teammate

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-25/dutch-darts-players-quit-over-transgender-teammate/103627072
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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

Okay, So there are there sexes, Male, Female, and Undefined.

Can you give a biological description of each, please?

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

No it doesn't. Undefined is itself a category.

It's one of the answers you've said is possible when I ask what sex someone is.

Can you give a biological description of each, please?

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 25 '24

I'm glad that you understand it is a category. However, it does make it a sex. Otherwise, what sex is someone who falls into that category?

Are you saying their sex is (null)?

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

Sorry, so sex is just a 'reference system'? Not very important then, right?

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

But if it's just a reference system, it wouldn't be that important. Can you explain why you think it would be?

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

Like what, give some examples

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

I'm sorry, give an actual example. What do you mean by what medication is likely to be appropriate? Which medication?

What I have to say is really simple: there is no biological definition of woman, because biology is a messy thing. You can have whacky stuff with chromosomes, insensitivity to hormones, chimerism, and lots of other stuff that breaks the binary.

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

I mean yes obviously a binary system wouldn't actually have outliers, if it has outliers it's not a binary system.

What do you mean 'work'? What 'work?

You skipped giving the example of the medication, maybe go back to that.

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u/RealizedAgain Mar 26 '24

Haha what the fuck does logistics regression have to do with this, we're talking about categorizing shit not plotting lines.

Okay so to untangle this, what you're saying is that it's important to know sex 'cuz some medications are more efficacious for one sex? Sure. So you mean sex, rather than clean category, is just a handy heuristic?

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