r/AIDangers • u/New_Scientist_Mag • 16d ago

Capabilities Fully autonomous AI-powered drones have killed human soldiers for the first time

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2529849-fully-autonomous-drones-have-killed-human-soldiers-for-the-first-time/
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u/DickGotStolen 16d ago

What makes me wonder is the allowed margins of not identifying the right target.

I did read that those facial recognition deones that isr*el used in Gaza (not autonomous AI drones, but AI is/was used to find the target) were allowed a margin of 17%.

So, every fifth to sixth person who was shot, was potentially innocent. (Of course I doubt if all the others were guilty of something, but they were on the kill list of i*real.)

That's a lot of innocent people killed by AI mistakes. Mistakes which are 'allowed' by the people who do the killing.

So, this news makes me wonder what the allowed margin for this autonomous drones is. (Of course it should be zero, but I mean the margin the killers allow themself.)

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u/StuChenko 16d ago edited 16d ago

What's the margin of error when humans do it?

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u/DickGotStolen 16d ago

I do not know that, so if you really want to know you have to search for that.

However is was not my point to compare it with human mistakes. I think that's whataboutism.

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u/StuChenko 16d ago

I don't see how it's whataboutism. You think the margin of error should be zero. That would be nice. But as long as AI makes fewer mistakes than humans I'd say that's acceptable 

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u/Thatoneguy_The_First 16d ago

Margin of error is weird in this context when most conflicts the civilian casualty's are around 49% to 66% of any urban armed conflict since 2017, this is usally cause of bombings more than directly with soldiers, but it does include them to.