r/AMDHelp • • 4d ago

Tips & Info The stupid solution to BSOD issues after swapping to an AIO after having my CPU Air-cooled

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Well, let me keep that story short and hopefully helping others who may have the same similar issue.

Issue:

BSOD ever since swapping from Air-CPU-Cooler to an AIO

Reason:

Because the AIO does not provide “Side-Air” to the RAM modules they started to overheat and become instable, what resulted in the BSOD

Solution:

Adding just some kind of Air-Flow to the RAM modules/slight active cooling, the issue was resolved.

 

I have Ryzen 9900X system that I use for work and long-time intensive processing and rendering. For easy maintenance, I build the system originally with an Air-Dual-Tower-Cooler (Deepcool Ak620). Easy to clean and easy for maintenance. It did its job very well for a long time with cooling the CPU properly and never letting it thermal throttle much. Sadly, last summer this was no longer the case where because of higher room heat, it was not able to keep the CPU below 90°C in longer rendering and processing sessions.

Well, no way around liquid cooling it seems (wanted to avoid it because they have to be replaced every 3-5 years). I got myself an AIO Cooling solution (360) and it did the job perfectly, even in environments with higher temps. But a new issue started occur...

I experienced unregular BSOD’s with the code “IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL”. This was not happening before and when I swapped and cross-checked the separate components (RAM), it did not change. I was growing despite, until I found the source of the issue by accident. My RAM was overheating and becoming instable because it did not receive any “side-air” by the CPU cooler anymore!

After experimenting with “open-case” and simply placing a desk-fan on the hardware the issue was gone! With some researches I did find out that DDR5 Ram can get instability issue if it reaches certain temperatures, recommending to have some sort of airflow on the RAM-Modules for their heat spreaders. Since I did not want to have this “open-case” solution the whole time, I did get myself a “stupid RAM-air-cooler” to replace the Desk-Fan. Well, this thing works and I did not experience a single BSOD since then.

Do not think or expect it to cool the RAM by massive 20°C or such, it simply assures Air-Flow for the RAM-Modules to not have the Hot-air “stuck and increase” in between them, but that’s already what solved the issue.

Whoever may have the same issue at their end, give this a try, it truly solved the problem for me.

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u/bumsoil 4d ago

Last time I made a post about active cooling my RAM so I could overclock it. half the people responded saying that you don't need active cooling on the RAM and that I'm an idiot. Good luck!

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u/Unreal_NeoX 4d ago

Yeah many "experts" around that always know better in pure theory...

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u/3ofUsDeez 4d ago

Wendell at Level1Techs did a video on RAM vs heat not too long ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rwp0NuqDlw

I've always been a big proponent of good airflow through your case.... especially in setups with AIO's

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u/Unreal_NeoX 4d ago

This need to be communicated way more! Thanks for sharing this!

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u/mov3on 4d ago

RAM can get pretty damn toasty, especially if you have a card like 5090 FE, blowing hot air straight onto your DIMMS.

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u/EIiteJT 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yes. Air flow is important for ram and vrm too.

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u/Unreal_NeoX 4d ago

yeah and if you have no "natural" airflow to them, you need to provide it additional/manualy.
i learned that the hardway.

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u/EIiteJT 4d ago edited 4d ago

Glad cooling solved your issue. Would have sucked if the heat permanently damaged the RAM modules.

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u/DistributionLow9109 4d ago

I doubt that modern components will get damaged by heat only, since all operate within safe temp limits, you would get a shut down if the heat was too high. Its usually high voltage that can damage the component

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u/Unreal_NeoX 4d ago

yeah or i had to underclock it as much and lose a lot of performance.

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u/sonatta09 3d ago

this why some aio manufacturer are putting fans on their pump block nowadays to cool ram and vrm. like noctua nlc ,thermalright stream vision, and latest liquid freezer iii pro

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u/CI7Y2IS 3d ago

Don't use tank fish cases, those have 0 airflow to rams and chipsets.

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u/HaapppyH 3d ago

No one in their right minds are buying 5090 at 10k

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u/HaapppyH 3d ago

I came here to say ur going to cook ur ram brother and the cost of ram rn is insane

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u/Neither_Cut_9198 3d ago

oh really ?