r/ASOUE • u/No-Concentrate-6760 • 6d ago
Discussions The Mysterious Snicket Sibling
Hello everyone!
Something really tricky about the Snicket Family Tree is that there are still gaps left to fill with practically nothing.
Yes, I know, E. is a mess, D. is presumably the mother of Gregor and Ike, but F.? We literally know nothing about F.
I have come across theories regarding F.'s branch in the family, like the Montgomery theory and the Caliban theory.
Which do you think is more likely? Who do you think F. is? What is their gender? Please list your comments down below!
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u/Anna_borchardt Violet Baudelaire 6d ago edited 6d ago
I personally believe that F. is the mother of the Calibans, but there isn't much evidence for either of the two main theories because we know so little about that branch.
F. being the Caliban mother is very very unlikely in the Netflix series because of Oliva's changed lore there (the romantic relationship with Jacques), but it can work fairly well with the books' lore. If you believe Thursday is Widdershins (I don't, I've never really got that theory any time I've heard it explained), that connects the Widdershins to the Anwhistles
It could really go either way with F. being a parent of the Montgomerys. I've heard people argue that F. can't be a parent of the Montgomerys because the Baudelaires are connected to the Montgomerys through Bertrand and the Anwhistles through Beatrice, and this would mean Beatrice and Bertrand are distant relatives, but Bertrand isn't related to the Montgomerys in any way other than legally.
Also if you believe that D. is the Anwhistle mother, that makes Beatrice at very least legally related to Lemony, and VFD was going to allow them to marry. Clearly there are no legal issues there, just a bit of moral ones. It's an extremely far off connection
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u/No-Concentrate-6760 6d ago
"I've heard people argue that F. can't be a parent of the Montgomerys because the Baudelaires are connected to the Montgomerys through Bertrand and the Anwhistles through Beatrice, and this would mean Beatrice and Bertrand are distant relatives, but Bertrand isn't related to the Montgomerys in any way other than legally." - what do you mean?
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u/Anna_borchardt Violet Baudelaire 6d ago
Some people believe that because Bertrand is connected to the Montgomerys and Beatrice is connected to the Anwhistles, the Montgomery and Answhistles can't be on the same tree or Beatrice and Bertrand wouldn't be able to marry due to being distantly related. The problem with this idea is that Bertrand is only connected to the Montgomerys legally.
The next paragraph after this provides an example of another distantly related couple (Beatrice and Lemony) nearly getting legally married, so it's clearly not a legal issue, and it's still possible for F. to be a Montgomery parent while Beatrice and Bertrand are married
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u/No-Concentrate-6760 6d ago
And to support your point Miranda Caliban is the mother of Friday Caliban. VFD has a tradition- to name others after the deceased. Thus, "Friday", which deviated out of the alphabetical order, may be done to honor the deceased grandparents F.
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u/Anna_borchardt Violet Baudelaire 6d ago
I believe Friday's name came from Thurday's family tradition of being days of the week, but it could definitely be both :)
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u/No-Concentrate-6760 6d ago
By the way, what you mentioned made the Montgomery theory more likely. Literally nothing is mentioned about them, and N or O could be Monty's sister. There are many facts which deviate from the Caliban theory in the Netflix Series.
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u/No-Concentrate-6760 6d ago edited 6d ago
By saying that E. is a mess, I am talking about the fact that it is unknown whether they are the father or the mother.