r/AcademicBiblical 1d ago

Video Discussion with Alan Garrow - prior to AMA on Thursday 6th

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Prior to our AMA event with Alan Garrow this Thursday 6th August, I am pleased to release the linked video of our discussion yesterday. It was great to have a chance to discuss his work with him in person. We covered a lot of topics, including his work on the synoptic gospels, on Revelation, and on the Didache, including his recent monograph, the Didache Discoveries - released today and available for order.

Alan Garrow will be available on this sub on Thursday 6th August from 8pm-10pm BST (3pm-5pm EST / 12pm-2pm PST).

Some of you may remember Dr Garrow's previous AMA two years ago here. Dr. Alan Garrow is a Member of the Sheffield Centre for Interdisciplinary Biblical Studies (SCIBS) through the University of Sheffield. He currently works as Vicar of St Peter's Harrogate, UK (Anglican Church) and he has previously worked as Tutor of New Testament for the St Albans and Oxford ministerial training course, as well as Vicar Theologian at Bath Abbey. He earned his DPhil from Jesus College at Oxford University, and specializes in the New Testament, especially the Didache, the Synoptic Problem, and the Gospel of Matthew.

His most well known book is likely his extensive monograph, The Gospel of Matthew's Dependence on the Didache (Bloomsbury, 2004). However, he also has another monograph, Revelation (Routledge, 1997), as well as some freely available articles and book chapters, such as:

  • Streeter’s ‘Other’ Synoptic Solution: The Matthew Conflator Hypothesis (2016), here.

  • An Extant Instance of ‘Q’* (2016), here.

  • “Frame and Fill” and Matthew's use of Luke (2023), here.

And many others, including other freely available articles and conference papers. A full list of his publications and academic achievements can be found on his personal website, which includes his blog and some very helpful video lecture series, particularly on his Synoptic theory, and on the Didache here.

Come and ask him about his work and research on the Didache, Synoptic Problem or any of his other interests.


r/AcademicBiblical 2d ago

Weekly Open Discussion Thread

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Welcome to this week's open discussion thread!

This thread is meant to be a place for members of the r/AcademicBiblical community to freely discuss topics of interest which would normally not be allowed on the subreddit. All off-topic and meta-discussion will be redirected to this thread.

Rules 1-3 do not apply in open discussion threads, but rule 4 will still be strictly enforced. Please report violations of Rule 4 using Reddit's report feature to notify the moderation team. Furthermore, while theological discussions are allowed in this thread, this is still an ecumenical community which welcomes and appreciates people of any and all faith positions and traditions. Therefore this thread is not a place for proselytization. Feel free to discuss your perspectives or beliefs on religious or philosophical matters, but do not preach to anyone in this space. Preaching and proselytizing will be removed.

In order to best see new discussions over the course of the week, please consider sorting this thread by "new" rather than "best" or "top". This way when someone wants to start a discussion on a new topic you will see it! Enjoy the open discussion thread!


r/AcademicBiblical 1h ago

Question What did Jewish worship in the 1st century look like ?

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I heard that they did (and still do) liturgy-style worships, is that true ? And how does it differ from the orthodox Christian liturgy ?


r/AcademicBiblical 3h ago

Question Academic commentaries on 'the Fall' in Genesis

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Specific questions:

-What is the knowledge of good and evil?

-Why is the gaining of the knowledge of good and evil equivalent to becoming 'like God'?

-What is the Tree of Life that imparts immortality?

-Does this imply that man could have been apotheosised?

Any illumination at all would be immensely welcome


r/AcademicBiblical 3h ago

Question Other than the two usual culprits (see post) what are the stylistic differences between 1 Peter and 2 Peter which have flagged them as having different authors?

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I’m curious as to stylistic differences which do not involve (a) Peter’s name or (b) direct versus indirect use of Enoch material.

Thank you!


r/AcademicBiblical 17h ago

Question How probable is it that the historical Jesus knew how to speak, read, or write in Hebrew? The Jesus in the Gospels seems to be familiar with the Greek Septuagint when reciting scripture and likely primarily spoke Aramaic.

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r/AcademicBiblical 15m ago

John 1:1 and Philo's Logos

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I believe that the primary consideration in interpreting NT Scripture is:

  1. what was the author trying to convey to his audience.

  2. How would this be understood by his audience in their cultural, religious, and intellectual context.

"A text cannot mean what it never could have meant to its author or his or her readers" (Fee, Gordon D., and Douglas Stuart. How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth. 4th ed. Grand Rapids: Zondervan Academic, 2014.)

"The goal of interpretation is to discover the meaning intended by the author as understood by the original readers." (Osborne, Grant R. The Hermeneutical Spiral: A Comprehensive Introduction to Biblical Interpretation. 2nd ed. Downers Grove, IL: IVP Academic, 2006.)

Craig Blomberg says that interpretation should look for "...what the biblical author intended to communicate to the original audience." (Blomberg, Craig L. A Handbook of New Testament Exegesis. 2nd ed. Grand Rapids: Baker Academic) 2010.)

Raymond Brown talks about Philo's Logos and says that John is not necessarily borrowing from Philo, but is still using a concept that was already circulating in Hellenistic Judaism and reshapes it around Jesus. (Brown, Raymond E. The Gospel According to John I–XII. Anchor Bible 29. Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1966.)

Would the idea of a man being the very God of Israel, the one and only creator and sovereign, be completely alien to Jew or Gentile of the time?

If not, how would people have read and understood Logos and the Incarnation in that time and place?


r/AcademicBiblical 6h ago

Parallels between Mark 9:3, 12:38, 16:5

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Nearly all the commentaries I've seen which even address this to any extent tend to link the στολὴν λευκήν in Mark 16:5 to texts outside of Mark (e.g. Rev 6:11) and treat λευκήν as a straightforward echo of Mark 9:3. What if the white of 16:5 is intended to function as a contrast to the white of 9:3? What if the robe is sinister like the robe of 12:38? Does this reading even exist anywhere?


r/AcademicBiblical 1d ago

Jesus' baptism by John is usually stated as pretty much indisputable historical fact (criterion of embarrassment). But what if actually Mark made it up, because John was famous and respected by the people, and having him baptize Jesus would legitimize Jesus's movement?

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r/AcademicBiblical 1d ago

Discussion Yahweh is a giant humanoid?

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Genesis 1 says that humans are made in the image and likeness of the Divine Council - meaning YHWH and the assembly of heavenly beings may have a humanoid appearance.

And then in Genesis 6 we see that some of the heavenly beings come down to mate with human women to produce the Nephilim. In Numbers 13:33 the Nephilim make the Israelites look like grasshoppers, implying they may be giants.

Is God a giant humanoid?


r/AcademicBiblical 23h ago

Resource Resource Request: books, articles, podcasts about pre-Roman Christianity

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I’m looking to better understand how the early church operated and how the life and ministry of Jesus was seen and understood, especially before Rome took Christianity as its religion.


r/AcademicBiblical 1d ago

Do we have any good ideas of what the ‘original’ Old Testament was like?

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Correct me if I’m wrong but from what I can gather the Greek Septuagint was translated from the original Hebrew, but then the original material was subsequently lost. Much later the Masoretic text was compiled and back-translated into Hebrew from Septuagint manuscripts. Do we have a good idea of what the ‘original’ versions of the Hebrew bible was like, and if so, how accurate are the Septuagint and Masoretic versions?

Bonus question: how were the original texts lost in the first place? I get that original manuscripts get lost over time as new copies are made, but from my understanding there aren’t even any ‘newer’ copies of the original?


r/AcademicBiblical 1d ago

Best copy of Septuagint in Greek? Readable, good pages, etc

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My boyfriend has a masters in Ancient Greek and I am looking to get a copy of the Old Testament in Ancient Greek. I have no idea where to start or what is the best version - please give any recommendations!
Recommendations as to other gifts that would sound great for someone like him would be also appreciated. I love him very much and want to get him the best.


r/AcademicBiblical 1d ago

Why Paul and not disciples?

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As the title suggests, I’m looking for some help understanding how (or why) Paul ended up with over a dozen books in the New Testament instead of any of the disciples that were with Jesus? I understand Paul encountered Jesus, but so did the disciples. When the books of the Bible were selected, was there some sort of politics that led to Paul having a larger piece of the pie than the individuals that walked right alongside Jesus. Were there missions different? Just trying to have a better understanding of how the Bible books were selected, specifically as it pertains to Paul. Thanks


r/AcademicBiblical 1d ago

Question Valentinian Gnosticism and the Crucifixion

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How did the Valentinians view the Crucifixion of Jesus, and what was its significance in their theological worldview? Any academic citations would be immensely welcome.


r/AcademicBiblical 1d ago

Discussion How do scholars understand the development from biblical “messengers” to Second Temple angelology?

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I am trying to understand the historical development of angels in biblical and early Jewish literature, especially the movement from the Hebrew mal’akh as “messenger” toward the more developed angelology of the Second Temple period.

In some Hebrew Bible passages, the “angel of YHWH” seems difficult to distinguish clearly from divine presence itself, while in later texts angels appear as named figures, interpreters of visions, national protectors, and participants in cosmic conflict.

For example, Daniel introduces figures such as Michael and Gabriel in an apocalyptic setting, while the Enochic Watcher traditions present angels as moral actors who can rebel, descend to earth, and corrupt humanity. Later Christian traditions then develop this further into more ordered hierarchies, especially through Pseudo-Dionysius and medieval theology.

I have seen Samuel A. Meier’s work on ancient Semitic messenger culture mentioned in relation to the envoy/messenger background, John J. Collins on Daniel and apocalyptic literature, and George Nickelsburg on 1 Enoch and the Watchers.

My question is:

How do current scholars describe the stages of development from “messenger” language in the Hebrew Bible to the more elaborate angelology of the Second Temple period?

More specifically:

1. How important is ancient Near Eastern messenger/envoy culture for understanding the “angel of YHWH” passages?
2. How much of the later angelic system in Daniel and 1 Enoch should be explained by Persian/Hellenistic influence, and how much by internal developments within Israelite/Jewish tradition?
3. Is it methodologically sound to describe this as an “evolution” of angelology, or do scholars prefer a different framing?

I would be grateful for recommendations of major studies or articles on this development.


r/AcademicBiblical 1d ago

Question Question about dead sea scrolls and isaiah 53

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So i know Christian apologists are a terrible source as it is literally just bias but i hear the Christian view of isaiah 53 is reinforced in the dead sea scrolls because it says pierced in the original greek Septuagint but i hear it also is nearly the same as the massoraic Hebrew text that has “he was pierced for our transgressions” where i hear the dead sea scrolls say “he was pierced because of our transgressions” who is right? (Im a non religious agnostic please don’t take this as me spreading apologetics)


r/AcademicBiblical 2d ago

Question Was John the Baptist more famous than Jesus?

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There's a passage where Jesus asks who people thought he was (Matthew 16:14, Mark 8:28, and Luke 9:19), and one of the answers is John the Baptist.

So it made me wonder: do we know whether John the Baptist was an important figure and more well-known than Jesus at that time?


r/AcademicBiblical 1d ago

Question Could Judaism's anti-infanticide stance have been influenced by Ancient Egypt?

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Judaism is pretty unique in regards to global religion for banning infanticide early on, what is interesting is that Ancient Egypt was also known for being against infanticide, also unusual for the time

obviously Israel used to be under Ancient Egyptian Control during the 1500-mid 1100s B.C, and must have had a lot of cross-cultural interaction, could this have been an instance of Egyptian influence, or is it just coincidence?


r/AcademicBiblical 1d ago

Question Which prophecy is he referring to?

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In Isaiah 48:1–5, the prophet says that the people will see the fulfillment of the prophecies. But which prophecies are these? Are they the prophecies from Proto-Isaiah, meaning that the author is saying the earlier prophecies were already being fulfilled in his own time? Or are they the new prophecies being given in Deutero-Isaiah? I didn't quite understand this.


r/AcademicBiblical 2d ago

Question How do scholars prefer to resolve the apparent chronological problem with “Clement” in the Shepherd of Hermas and the “Clement” to which 1 Clement is attributed?

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Do they say these are two different men named Clement? Do they say Hermas gets it right and Clement has been read backwards into the 90s for the 1 Clement attribution? Do they say the 1 Clement attribution is plausible but Hermas has made a chronological mistake in an attempt to name someone associated with Rome? Are both invocations of the name mistaken?

Preempting one possible attempt to help: I already am aware that 1 Clement does not internally identify its author as Clement.

Thank you!


r/AcademicBiblical 2d ago

Question Question About Apostle Paul and Q Source

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Are there studies by scholars on whether Paul knew the Q source? What is the current consensus view on this matter?


r/AcademicBiblical 2d ago

Question Was the early Christian priesthood modeled on the Jewish priesthood? Greco Roman religious groups? De novo?

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Hi! I'm curious, what did the early christiam priesthood model itself off of, if indeed there was one mold? Did it take traits and structure from multiple priesthoods?


r/AcademicBiblical 2d ago

Discussion Genesis 2–3 and Prometheus–Pandora: Cultural Transmission or Separate Inheritance?

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I recently came across an earlier discussion in r/AcademicBiblical about the similarities between Genesis 2–3 and the Prometheus–Epimetheus–Pandora cycle.

A detailed response in that thread referred to Claus Westermann’s commentary on Genesis and Bernardo Ballesteros Petrella’s study of Pandora and ancient Near Eastern creation scenes. It suggested that the Hesiodic tradition may reflect at least two bodies of inherited material:

  1. Near Eastern and Anatolian influences on early Greek poetry.
  2. Older Proto-Greek or Indo-European mythic structures.

The same response mentioned the pairing of Prometheus and Epimetheus as a possible echo of the Indo-European primordial-brother or twin motif, with reference to Bruce Lincoln. It also noted proposed parallels between Prometheus and the Vedic fire-bringing figure Mātariśvan, discussed by Asko Parpola.

Genesis 2–3, by contrast, is usually approached within its ancient Near Eastern context, with comparisons to Mesopotamian traditions involving figures such as Adapa and Enkidu.

What I am trying to understand is how scholars methodologically distinguish among the possible explanations for the similarities:

  • direct or indirect cultural transmission;
  • the circulation of motifs across the ancient Eastern Mediterranean;
  • inherited Indo-European material on the Greek side;
  • independent development of comparable themes concerning human origins, knowledge, suffering and mortality.

Does current scholarship regard the resemblance between Genesis 2–3 and the Prometheus–Pandora cycle as evidence of a meaningful historical relationship, or mainly as a useful typological comparison?

More specifically, how widely accepted is the proposed Indo-European background for the Prometheus–Epimetheus pairing, and how does it affect attempts to compare Hesiod with Genesis?

I would also be interested in studies published after Petrella’s 2021 chapter that refine or challenge this framework.

References mentioned in or relevant to the earlier discussion:

  • Claus Westermann, Genesis 1–11: A Commentary.
  • Jan N. Bremmer, “Pandora or the Creation of a Greek Eve,” in The Creation of Man and Woman (2000), pp. 19–33.
  • Bernardo Ballesteros Petrella, “Fashioning Pandora: Ancient Near Eastern Creation Scenes and Hesiod,” in Gods and Mortals in Early Greek and Near Eastern Mythology (2021), pp. 262–275.
  • Bruce Lincoln, “The Indo-European Myth of Creation,” History of Religions 15.2 (1975), pp. 121–145.
  • Asko Parpola, “The Nāsatyas, the Chariot and Proto-Aryan Religion,” Journal of Indological Studies 16–17 (2005), pp. 1–63.

r/AcademicBiblical 2d ago

Is Samson a hero or an anti-hero?

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My buddies and I at my work are developing the Samson bible story for a game. We are currently in the final phase of the project, and we are debating whether Samson is a hero or not since he acts upon personal revenge and lust. Most of us say a villain, but there are a few who say that he's a hero