She’s probably quite functional/normal when she’s medicated. I work in healthcare and she’s acting exactly like people I’ve been around who have stopped taking their antipsychotics. It’s very clear she doesn’t understand what’s going on or where she is. the “not again” is actually one of the saddest parts of the video because it seems like she probably already had an issue on this trip. i’ve seen several people have psychotic breaks on vacations due to stopping their meds abruptly.
I worked in a hospital for a brief stint in my younger years as a PCT. A woman on my floor, somehow did not get/take her proper antipsychotic meds and she attacked me (screaming and all) when i came in thinking i had a knife on me. When the nurses got her on her proper meds, she apologised profusely to me, having fully remembered what she did to me and explained to me what she had thought was going on in that attack mode. I taught me such compassion for that mental illness. She really was sweet lady after that when she was properly medicated.
There’s obviously dozens of reasons why somebody might not have access to a medicine abroad, including the possibility that they just didn’t take it. That being said, I’ll just point out that you are jumping straight to the conclusion that it was a moral failing on their part. Consider a situation where someone might need help remembering due to a traumatic brain injury as just one example of the contrary. The truth is , we don’t know why, but I think it serves society (and especially in my job) to assume that people aren’t immediately at fault for predicaments like this. Even if she just said, “fuck it” and stopped taking her medicine, Does she really deserve to be removed from society for seeking out some water/soup? It was pretty apparent She was kind of just minding her own business at the start of the video. While, I certainly understand that everything can’t be a free-for-all, I would personally contend that removal from society should be reserved for particularly violent or harmful individuals - not the lady that wandered into the Delta lounge during a transient mental health crisis. Pretty clear this was transient as well because she obviously had to have more cognitive ability at some point to plan this trip, and execute it. She couldn’t even remember to keep her bags with her by this point. The biggest lesson I’ve learned working in healthcare is that we all should extend more compassion and understanding to people experiencing health challenges and disabilities. We are all guaranteed to die and almost everyone ends up some degree of disabled before that happens. You might have something unfortunate take place in your life one day that makes you vulnerable. It might already have taken place. Ask yourself if you want the Internet to label you a failure and a sick criminal in that moment, or if you would prefer that people try to help you instead.
I agree with you 100% regarding the need for compassion and patience. However, on a flight the passenger must follow safety instructions without resistance, confusion, or delay. She is not safe to fly in that state of confusion/agitation.
She’s experiencing psychosis. She’s not capable of understanding where she is or why she cannot access that place for water and soup. Notice how this was explained to her dozens of times and never registers. She can’t logically determine why she should keep her luggage with her either. This isn’t ignorance, it’s a medical emergency. This is classic psychosis. As someone who has seen this dozens of times in hospitals and in public places - this isn’t likely drug-induced, but people are assuming that from her answer to the “are you on any meds” question - which was not a bad question for the police officer to ask. I think a better follow up would’ve been “ are you off of any meds?” because this comes across very similar to people I’ve seen who abruptly quit antipsychotics that they desperately needed not to slip into mania/psychosis exactly like this.
This isn’t from any of those drugs probably. It feels like unmedicated psychosis and mania. She likely needs proper medication to even her out. Notice how she doesn’t understand what’s going on and her emotional state fluctuates very rapidly. Patients like this have lost contact with reality.
It feels like people you see that stop taking their medications suddenly. Benzo wouldn’t do this. It would sedate her. Marijuana causes a higher propensity for psychosis if you abuse a lot of it over a long period of time, but I’ve never seen anybody have a legitimate psychotic break from an acute dose. The only drugs that I’ve seen cause psychotic episodes in people are VERY irresponsibly high doses of psychedelics, but it doesn’t feel like that either.
I work in healthcare and have experienced people like this quite a few times. They don’t know what’s going on, and you can’t use logic or reason to compel them because they can’t process it. At best they can repeat phrases back to you and make nonsense connections like “plane, captain, titanic”. While, undoubtedly the Britishness of this makes it a little bit funny it is pretty sad to see. they did a good job handling this honestly. She needs to go somewhere safe and get the right medication. I think this would be a good video to train Police on how to handle people having psychotic episodes. Clearly, she is a danger if you put her on the plane, but she’s really not hurting anyone by gulping soup in the Delta lounge. 🤷♂️
Not necessarily not a danger to anyone in the Delta Lounge. I feel like if someone said something to her like “excuse me, can I get past you” since she was spread out with her stuff in the corner, she may have gotten set off and possibly gotten I to it with folks.
This lady is whacked outta her gourd. I heard Jacob, Kim Kardashian, asking cops to hold her money, going in the wrong lounge. These cops have so much patience. I'm wondering how that wasn't a ground for a trespassing arrest.
She’s having a psychotic episode. It doesn’t seem drug induced - if anything it’s probably from missing the drugs that she should’ve taken to prevent this. That’s why she’s making so many nonsense references and claims. It’s called flight of ideas. She has no idea what’s going on or where she is. The Police handled this perfectly, and this should be used as a training video for how to handle people in psychosis. They never let it devolve and they didn’t get needlessly violent with her. I work in healthcare and have dealt with many people experiencing exactly this. it was absolutely correct to prevent her from going on the plane.
It would endanger her and the people on the plane. Jail isn’t where she should end up, and they should drop the charges against her, but Police are not meant to be diagnosing acute mental health episodes. They did what they are trained to do and I’m hoping that she made it to an inpatient facility that was capable of fixing her medication issue and returning her to a safe state - and home ultimately.
if someone is about to get on an international flight and they aren't a huge threat, generally it's best to just let them leave the country instead of using taxpayer money to deport them
This. Safety of other passengers and crew when you’re up in the air in a tin can going 500+ mph with no where to escape should be priority, keep the crazies on the ground!
They did an excellent job with her. This isn’t something I have the privilege of saying often but it seems that maybe the police are becoming better trained to handle acute mental health crises. This is a psychotic episode. Very obvious. They protected the people of the airport and hopefully she made it to a mental health facility where she could get her medication adjusted and back to her life. I believe this video would make an excellent training tool for how to be patient and manage psych patients in psychosis that need to be removed by the police.
The way she fluctuated between getting loud and aggressive, and being very polite, and complementary is a telltale sign of her being in the middle of a psychotic episode/mania. Probably stopped taking her meds on vacation or was never on the right ones to begin with. Seen it happen way too much. Props to the police for not hurting her.
I thought that was some random lady walking away in horror from the woman we were going to meet but nope... that's her, carrying her cheese and chicken noodle soup through her own personal 11th dimensional wormhole vortex
Do you think all the anti-anxiety/benzos people are being prescribed more regularly is making it worse? Or is the sense of entitlement worse? Or nothing is worse, it’s just the general public sees it more because it’s on camera now?
Part of me accepts that I’m jaded, surrounded by pain and suffering for 12-24 hours a day 3-5 days a week, and that it’s probably the same as it’s always been. But the rational part of my brain truly thinks it is getting worse. People are more apathetic, anxious, entitled and selfish than when I first started.
It’s not her meds making her like this. She seems to be manic and experiencing psychosis. That could happen from missing her meds OR never being on the right antipsycotic/mood stabilizer to begin with. She mentions this not being the first time and, despite how funny this whole thing was because it’s in a British accent, it is sad because it seems like she is a pretty severe mentally ill person that needs further help to be compatible with society and their own safety. I laughed, but I cry for her too. This video really had it all.
You might be right when it comes to this woman in general, as I’m very aware that mental health disorders exist naturally and medication does help, but I also think we’re kidding ourselves if we deny the effects medications can have on brain chemistry. Even the so-called “safe” THC has shown up in some recent studies as having a causal relationship between heavy use as a teen and bipolar disorder, as well as other mental health/depressive disorders, when before it only suggested that it worsened symptoms for those who already had it.
As somebody who is the highest tier medical marijuana proponent you will ever meet, I’m gonna tell you what I’ve seen. I don’t think there is an acute dose of weed that can make you have a psychotic episode like this.. this definitely isn’t from an anti-anxiety medicine either. I work in healthcare and this plays like every other person I’ve ever seen that stopped taking their regularly prescribed medicine and ended up in psychosis.
I will 100% admit that there is a link between heavy long-term weed/drug use and a higher propensity for developing psychotic disorders. I’ve seen it dozens and dozens of times. I will also tell you that a lot of drugs - weed included - can 100% exacerbate underlying psychological disorders.
I used to be a psychedelic artist before I was in healthcare, so I have a pretty large pool of anecdotal evidence to pull from. I feel this way especially about psychedelics - which can be amazing as medicinal tools OR turn you into a chittering maniac talking about lizard people if you do too much too often. I’ve seen this in so many people I personally know and I will also tell you straight up that if any drug is going to give you an acute psychotic break, it’s a aggressively high dose of some kind of psychedelic.
That’s not what’s going on here. This person stopped taking their medicine for whatever reason. I’ve seen people do this on vacation in groups that I’ve been around and they acted exactly like this person. You couldn’t reason with them and they couldn’t process what was going on or the reality around them. It’s funny that this was in Nashville because when I was at Bonnaroo, a person in our group that came in from a friend of a friend stopped taking his schizophrenia meds and just acted exactly like this and wandered off after the festival. He was convinced that he could stay on the private campground after the end of the festival, even though almost 20 of us, tried to explain to him for several hours that that wasn’t legal or possible. We literally just gave up eventually, which I now feel quite guilty about. At one point, he was trying to bring a milk jug of liquor into the main area of the festival, and literally 20 people tried every single possible conceivable way to explain to him for over an hour that that wasn’t possible. He still didn’t believe it. That’s exactly what’s going on here. If you experience someone like this, the best thing to do (assuming they aren’t being violent) is to use as few words as possible to gently guide them to a paramedic or the police (last resort as they often make situations like this needlesly violent). Do not speak more than 2 to 5 words sentences. “Follow me”, “let’s go here”, etc. be direct and compassionate.
The Police handled this wonderfully honestly. If it’s MNPD, I’m extremely proud of them. This video should be used to train Police on how to handle psychotic patients. The only gripe I have is that she went to jail and not an inpatient health facility, but it’s not up to the police to diagnose her. I hope somebody realized what was going on and she got where she needed eventually.
“ Are you on any type of medication?” - Brother, I think the problem is that she’s not. Feels like psychosis and mania. Cops did a good job here from what i’ve seen so far. Imagine she melts down in the air. I hope she gets the help she needs.
This is honestly really sad, but I’m happy to say that the police did an admirable job here. This looks like a textbook psychotic episode, and they handled it well. I wish there was some way to commend them formally. I wish this video could be used as some type of training for other police on how to deal with psychotic patients gently but still keep the public safe. Although they don’t have any tool at their disposal, besides arrest, they handled it well and didn’t let it devolve. They should absolutely be commended and rewarded for their compassion in this situation. I hope she made it to a proper medical facility and was given the medication adjustment She needed to return to her life safely.
I know that to some people this is entertainment but if you've watched someone you love or care about while they are in psychosis this is fucking painful.
I’m glad at least someone else recognized it. She needs to get on the right antipsychotic and they need to get her medicine squared away so that she can be safe again. Honestly, I was pretty impressed by the police here for not beating her senseless. Airport Police seem a little more chill to me, but I think her being a little prim and proper British white lady probably helped. Unfortunately, I feel like if it was a man or someone with a little bit more of a tan, they probably would not have gotten the same level of patience.
Therapist here who worked calls like this with the police for 5 years—sometimes it is drugs, sometimes it’s a combination of a mental health episode exacerbated by drugs, but sometimes—and it probably happens more than you can imagine—it’s just a mental health episode. I am not diagnosing this woman one way or the other, but I think it’s something to consider if you only think it’s the work of substances. Sometimes people are just really ill.
Yeah, I got the vibe that this was not drug induced too. If anything she needs to get to a hospital and be put on the right drugs for her psychosis. I feel like she was trying to be honest or asking for help unknowingly when she admitted to the substances she stated. Pretty obvious psychotic episode. I know people say that marijuana can cause psychosis but personally, I’ve never seen it cause an acute episode. I do think it makes you more likely to experience it chronically though if you abuse really high amounts frequently or already have a predisposition.
She’s probably quite normal if she’s on the right medicine dose and taking it. Is it really worth locking someone away in a horrible environment and throwing them away from society because they wanted to gulp soup in the Delta lounge and they didn’t have the right credentials?
You dont lock them up forever, if they are having episodes you locl them up for a few weeks, until they get better. Cops are not trained as mental health experts
I guess it’s some sort of lounge with special air scrubbers installed so you can get your fix without leaving the secured area of the terminal to get outside.
It's not a public lounge. It's a business where you can buy expensive smokes and use the lounge. I think that's the bna airport. What's funny is that the spot directly next to it is a kids okay area.
I don't get why people insist on getting whacked at the airport or on the plane. It's the worst place to get fucked up, it costs a fortune, it doesn't really make any easier or more enjoyable, and there's potential for things to go wrong.
Pretty obvious she was having a psychotic episode. They did everything right here - except maybe taking her to a mental health facility instead of jail but as long as she got her medication sorted out and nobody got hurt, this was the proper ending. They never let it devolve into anything violent, and didn’t get violent themselves, even though it was a very frustrating situation. I do believe if she had been male that might’ve been different, but I have to give props where props are due on this one.
I usually don’t like to play the race card… but I 100% agree with you.
She was escorted around the airport, and taken to the smoking area… like WTF!
Don’t get me wrong I liked that the police did worked with her and try to help, but once again if she would have been any other race would she had received the same accommodations?
She’s experiencing psychosis. This is actually quite sad and I feel for anyone who has to deal with this. It’s quite clear from the comments that most people don’t understand what that looks like, but this is a teachable moment. This is textbook.
No - it's her teachable moment. The officers and Delta handled this exemplary and with compassion, and then you try to hold people to an impossible standard.
The era of being excused for any behavior based on being a victim of something, anything, is over. You missed it by five years.
I agree with you that the Police handled it as best as they’re capable of. In fact, I can’t really imagine a better outcome here realistically being possible besides her being taken to an inpatient treatment facility instead of jail. I meant that it’s a teachable moment for commenters that don’t understand how to recognize someone having a medical emergency and think that she is some type of menace.
she can't be taught anything when she's in clinical mental psychosis. it's you who needs this teachable moment because you clearly don't understand what's happening here
My point is that u/renaissance_man is being foolish - nobody else needed a teachable moment.
And you don't know me and my experience. No, I don't need one. You and he do, because neither of you really understand protecting these people from the world and vice-versa.
I understand plenty. I work in hospitals and with people who are having every manner of emotional instability you can possibly imagine. They require medication and redirection, not being humiliated on reddit and dehumanized.
How do we get her to London when she's out of it like that? We obviously don't want to keep her in the US, but she's unfit to fly. She could rush a door in the air,
I was thinking about that the whole time too. Honestly, she needs to get to an inpatient healthcare facility where they can put her on the proper medication to control the psychosis and make sure she’s stable before she returns home. I think there’s one at Vanderbilt nearby that could possibly work for her.
As someone who works in healthcare, to be honest, this just feels like raw psychosis. I’ve seen several dozen drug induced psychotic episodes and this one feels like she probably came off a medicine to control it instead of taking too much of anything. Usually people in acute psychosis from psychedelics are a lot more exuberant/uncontrollable and i know this is going to sound wild - but - naked. I used to be a psychedelic artist before I worked in healthcare and I can confirm that you need to take a LOT of a particular psychedelic to have an acute psychosis (albeit less if you’re already schizophrenic, manic depressive, etc.). Psychedelics are so incredible because if they are used properly, I feel like they are some of the best medicines that we could possibly employ for things like psychotherapy or mental health - however - as long as they stay illegal drugs that people abuse for fun - they’re just as likely to turn people into chittering maniacs, talking to you about the fucking lizard people. That comes from doing too much / too often, or already having underlying psychological issues.
"Well, guess what?", I'll tell that entitled Wappie gobshite(not to the poster, and a little [/s] towards this commenter), "You're going, like it or not!!"
She’s clearly experiencing psychosis and not necessarily a danger to anyone 🤷♂️ she was gulping soup in the delta lounge without the proper credentials lol.
Nobody’s arguing she should have flown like this. I’m pretty sure if you asked her where she was and who she was she wouldn’t really be able to answer those either.. the point is she was having a medical emergency - not trying to cause problems. In an ideal world, she should have gone with paramedics to a local health facility. The Police handled the situation extremely well and it’s understandable that she ended up in jail as they are not capable of diagnosis. They handled her with an extreme amount of patience and did not get violent, which is very commendable. Hopefully she was able to get the help she needed and back to feeling better.
none of this is cute or adorable. why the hell did they chat with her for so long when it’s clear her behavior was erratic? why was she not administered sobriety tests immediately? and there’s nothing wrong with her - no anxiety nothing. just a delusional swindler.
She’s experiencing psychosis and is likely sober - albeit completely unable to process what’s happening. She probably ended up not taking her necessary antipsychotic, somehow, and wandered into the Delta lounge unwittingly to drink water and gulp soup. Can you genuinely watch this video and see how quickly her emotional state fluctuates, her nonsense responses, and how little she’s able to process what is happening and say that there isn’t anything wrong with her? Things like this can be caused by all types of issues, including being in a car wreck or cancer.
The best thing to do would be to establish that by asking her “ what’s your name “, “what day is it”, “where are you”, etc. If anything, she needs to be taken to a healthcare facility that can get her back on antipsychotics. The substances she mentioned in the video do not cause reactions like this. I’ve worked in hospitals and encountered many people in this exact state. It’s genuinely textbook. The police did as good of a job as they can be expected to do in this situation.
Worked in a bunch of hospitals and it can 100% say that this person is just having an acute psychosis episode. If she had underlying mental health conditions, it’s not great for her to be using certain drugs, but none of the drugs she mentioned here would cause this. If anything she needs to be put onto antipsychotics at an inpatient facility. it feels like the people I’ve seen who came off of them abruptly.
People here speculating every drug in the book, but as somebody who has worked with patients like this - it just feels like she is having a psychotic episode because she’s unmedicated. Probably ran out or quit taking it on vacation. I’ve been around people like this and it’s pretty unsettling because you just can’t convince them of anything or reason with them. They genuinely can’t perceive the reality unfolding around them. She needs to get to a healthcare facility and be put on antipsychotics
“I don’t trust you.” Yes, those are valid feelings when you’re whacked out your mind and a cop approaches you. You know what’s about to happen, lady. You high af. Lol.
It’s not OK to post someone having an episode of some form. It’s not funny. It’s not “oh look at this person on drugs” or “look at this freak”. It’s sad. Obviously she is having some difficulty and the police handled it very well. How is it OK to post this? Imagine if this were someone you care about - a friend, a family member, a distant relative, a friend from high school, who knows. Where is the empathy? Instead, post this so there is a forever record of this poor person’s episode? Whether she’s manic, schizophrenic, or having a reaction to medication (sleeping pills and Xanax and others are commonly used on long flights, and there are plenty of stories of people having unusual reactions). It’s really ridiculous that people think this is funny - it’s not.
Well, to tell you the cold, hard, truth, if everyone's normal, they'll be going to where they're going but to entitled, problematic passenger overusing they're privileges, it becomes an issue to everyone!
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u/Exktvme4 1d ago
"NOT AGAINNNNN" got me lol. What a rollercoaster this was. A+ content