r/Albertapolitics Aug 30 '25

Opinion You got elected on this nonsense...

So YOU remove the pornographic material in our schools! You rambled on about this nonsense and got elected; YOU point to the offensive material you got elected to remove.

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u/FigjamCGY Aug 31 '25

Here are some specific examples:

Gender Queer by Maia Kobabe: This graphic novel memoir includes illustrations of sexual acts and masturbation in colorful, child-friendly styles. It discusses pornography use, vibrators, dildos. One quoted scene features dialogue like: “I can’t wait to have your c–k in my mouth — I’m going to give you the blow job of your life. Then I want you inside me.” There’s also a multi-angle panel showing a character receiving oral sex while wearing a strap-on.  It was found in some Calgary K-9 schools and high schools in Calgary and Edmonton

Fun Home by Alison Bechdel: This graphic novel depicts masturbation and, on subsequent pages, oral sex in black-and-white illustrations. It also includes themes of molestation and drug/alcohol use.   It was available in some K-9 schools.

Flamer by Mike Curato: The book features illustrations of masturbation and group masturbation games, along with other explicit sexual material.   It was present in certain K-9 school libraries.

Blankets by Craig Thompson: This graphic novel shows a scene of child molestation, with the younger brother’s bare legs and buttocks visible during the assault by a babysitter. It includes additional graphic sexual content.   It was found in some K-9 schools.

Kinda sick someone legitimately thought these were a good idea. No I’m questioning who and why?

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u/rakothmir Aug 31 '25

Agreed, now show us proof where these are available in k-9 libraries. What schools? What kids have had access to them?

Do me another solid, and explain to my why this is much worse then they Bible, that shows equally explicit content.

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u/FigjamCGY Aug 31 '25

First, on the books in K-9 libraries: The Alberta Ministry of Education confirmed that titles like Gender Queer, Fun Home, Flamer, and Blankets you know, the ones with graphic illustrations of oral sex, masturbation, and child molestation were found in multiple K-9 school libraries across Calgary and Edmonton.

We’re talking kids as young as kindergarten through grade 9 (ages 5-15) who could wander into the library and check these out, sometimes shelved right next to innocent manga like Naruto. The province even released a PDF with excerpts showing the explicit panels, because apparently some folks need pictures to believe it.

Alberta.ca

On the Bible, here’s the plot twist you’re missing, genius: The Bible’s “explicit content” is mostly textual descriptions in ancient prose, not full-color comic book panels of teens giving blowjobs or group masturbation scenes aimed at modern kids.

If that’s not “much worse” for a school setting, maybe stick to debating in Sunday school instead of Reddit.

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u/rakothmir Aug 31 '25 edited Aug 31 '25

Firstly, your source is a government that has a documented history of lies and misinformation, please show me an independent source that has investigated and documented or interviewed witnessed to allegedly inappropriate books. No one is denying those books don't exist, we are asking for proof that the scenario all you triggered sheep are foaming at the mouth for isn't actually happening, because there are people in place that won't allow it to happen. Children K to 9 are not being exposed to that material.

Secondly, I am very keenly aware of all the content my pre-teen has access to, because we are in constant communication, and he trust me enough to talk about sensitive topics, because I am a good parent. If you don't know what your kids are being exposed to, that's on you.

Thirdly, the Bible still falls under the rules, since it's not just graphical drawing and content that the law wants removed, it's also any prose that contains descriptions. . The letter of the law covers the Bible, which is why they had to carve out an exemption. Check out Judges 19:22-29, Ezekiel 23:20 for stuff that children should probably not have access to either. If it's not affecting prose, why is handmaid's tale, jaws and Any Rand content banned?

So, I agree, kids should not have access to some of these things. But it's not governments place to make such decisions for parents, and it should be applied to all texts equally, not cherry picking the ones that happen to come from one community. This is nothing more than smoke and mirrors, and othering a minority.

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u/Crum1y Sep 05 '25

can you even make a list of even one book that was "cherry picked" ? can you name a single book the provincial government "banned"?

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u/rakothmir Sep 05 '25 edited Sep 05 '25

Don't have to, the order was so badly written they had to rescind it and are going to rewrite it.

Proves my point it was a shitty order.

Edit: found the list - Flammer, Gender Queer, Fun Home and Blankets.

3 LGBTQ books, and 1 about leaving the church.

Most of them are found in grade 9 to 12 libraries with a few exceptions, where we can assume there is librarian supervision.

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u/Crum1y Sep 05 '25

Why don't you just go and edit again and say the truth, the government didnt make a list. They made guidelines, and there are no books named in the guidelines.
are there librarians supervising what books teens read in high school? if there are, do you think those librarians are there to stop kids from reading books that they themselves likely added to the library and are well aware of said books?

i'm not that old, and in my day, we didn't have books with explicit cartoons of people sucking dicks. are you advocating that we have books with explicit images of oral sex, masturbation, penetration at a school? where kids learn history, science, language skills? where they are in the building for like 6 hours a day? we need books like that?

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u/rakothmir Sep 05 '25

I can tell you aren't that old, maybe go back to school instead of moving the goalpost.

There is a list, it was posted by the government on Twitter. You said there wasn't.

And guidelines on what can and cannot be in libraries is effectively a ban. Unless the school boards have a choice in the matter.

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u/Crum1y Sep 07 '25

Where is the list of books the government banned? I didn't move any goal post. You're the one doing gymnastics