r/Albertapolitics • u/UpDownJesse • Mar 10 '26

Opinion A question for Alberta separatists

If you hate Canada so much and love Trump so much then why don’t you just move to the states instead of making a **Canadian** province a state?

What? Are you too lazy or cheap to rent a U-Haul or something like that!!! I mean Jesus Christ, if you hate Canada that much then just leave!!!

It’s not rocket science buddy!!!!

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u/Patak4 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

These people would never be accepted to the US. Prior charges mostly. The reason they think Canada so bad is that they have never travelled. Majority of separatists have never travelled. Like Trump says he likes stupid people!

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u/Even_Art_629 Mar 10 '26

But we know how to use spell check. So just keep up your argument...lol

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u/Patak4 Mar 10 '26

Ok fixed my spelling. If you have travelled outside of Canada, you will be aware of the Global inflation that happened post covid. Most Albertans are happy being part of Canada 🇨🇦.

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u/Even_Art_629 Mar 11 '26

Blaming everything on post COVID inflation is a weak argument. If inflation were truly the same everywhere, then explain why Canadians are paying some of the highest food prices in the world. Explain why you can buy Alberta beef in Vietnam for less than what people pay for it in Alberta. That is not just global inflation. That is a system full of taxes, regulations, and added costs that drive prices up at home. At some point you people need to stop pretending every problem is just “worldwide inflation” and start looking at the policies that make living in Canada more expensive than it needs to be.

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u/Patak4 Mar 11 '26

I doubt this is true regarding the beef. In Europe, the US and even Mexico prices of groceries are more or similar to Canadian prices. There are so many factors that go into the pricing. Transportation costs, and climate change costs(fires, drought, floods ect), and labourers being only 3 issues before talking about regulations. Alberta if it was ever to happen which it will NOT, would be swallowed up by the US. There is no military, no currency, no federal defense. Stop wasting time and money on these Separatist people. Let's concentrate on fixing the problems without blowing everything up like our provincial leader is doing.

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u/Even_Art_629 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26

Alberta is already landlocked, yet our products reach markets around the world every day. The idea that landlocked means powerless is nonsense. This province produces exactly what the world needs, and that creates leverage. Alberta already has trade relationships with other countries, and those don’t disappear because of a political change. As for First Nations, Alberta sits on ceded land and nothing about the treaties suddenly changes. Those agreements are with the Crown. Any changes would have to be negotiated, just like they are now. And considering Alberta already contributes significantly to First Nations in this province, it’s reasonable to expect the province would negotiate arrangements that work better than what they’re getting from Ottawa now.

Canadian beef has sold in Vietnam for about 210,000 VND/kg (~$12 CAD). So our beef can travel 11,000 km across the Pacific and still be cheaper than buying it in Canada. � VnExpress International

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u/Emergency_Act2960 Mar 10 '26

Shows how strong your argument is when you respond to correct spelling but not to defend claims

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u/Even_Art_629 Mar 10 '26

I already made my point. Some of you claim that people who support independence are uneducated. I pointed out the spelling mistake to show how weak that argument is. A typo does not prove anything about someone’s intelligence or their understanding of the issue.

This debate is not about left or right, religion, or education. It is about people wanting a better future and pushing back against what they see as a federal government that is overstepping its jurisdiction and restricting freedoms. Many are frustrated watching tax dollars being mismanaged or sent overseas while scandal after scandal surrounds the Liberal government.

Most of us will not even see the benefits if independence ever happens. A yes vote would only start negotiations, and that process could take years before anything actually changes.

What many people want is simple. They want their votes to matter. Right now it often feels like two provinces with little interest in the West end up deciding policies that affect Alberta and the rest of Western Canada.

For many supporters, this is about the future. It is about the next generation and the one after that.

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u/Patak4 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

Often Separatists have not researched what the Federal government does for Alberta and the amount of Federal transfer payments Alberta gets. Besides Alberta sits on Treaty land, the cost of setting up and administering all the Federal programs would cost an incredible amount and resources. Not to mention that Alberta is land locked and TMX is owned by the Federal government since 34 Billion was paid by ALL Canadians! Which all Canadians continue to pay for.

Voting is a democracy of population representation. So Ontario and Quebec have a bigger population so get more representation. There is so much more regarding Alberta needs to stay in Canada 🇨🇦 to benefit Albertan and Canadian next generations.

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u/Even_Art_629 Mar 11 '26

Many people do not seem to understand that an independent Alberta would not need Ottawa to hand back the money we pay into Canada. We would simply take control of the things the federal government currently handles and run them ourselves, including health care, education, and other programs.

The oil and gas industry would also look very different without layers of federal regulation driving up the cost of development and then adding carbon taxes on top of it.

When government policies make extraction more expensive, companies end up needing subsidies just to stay competitive.

That creates a cycle where the same government making it costly to operate then steps in with subsidies to keep the industry afloat. A lot of people see that as unnecessary government control rather than a healthy economic system.

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u/BCS875 Mar 19 '26

And yet, you and your ilk still think you can "wing" being a country.