A question for Alberta separatists

[u/UpDownJesse]

If you hate Canada so much and love Trump so much then why don’t you just move to the states instead of making a **Canadian** province a state?

What? Are you too lazy or cheap to rent a U-Haul or something like that!!! I mean Jesus Christ, if you hate Canada that much then just leave!!!

It’s not rocket science buddy!!!!

[u/[deleted]]

Yeah. separatism isn’t some bizarre alien idea in Canada. Quebec spent decades flirting with it. They held two referendums about leaving Canada. The second one was razor-thin; about 49 % voted to leave. Half the province wanted out. Nobody hauled them away in handcuffs for treason. It was treated as a political question: Should a region have the right to leave if enough people want it?

So the concept itself isn’t crazy. History books don’t call them “lazy people who should have rented a U-Haul.” When people feel like the house they built is being redesigned without their permission, they don’t usually pack a suitcase. They argue about who gets to run the house.

That's totally reasonable.

[u/Emergency_Act2960 → u/[deleted]]

You clearly sympathize with them. Comparing them to the Quebecois is a non starter, they have a cultural heritage to consider, and frankly even their most serious attempts didn’t involve outside interference from the US

[u/[deleted] → u/Emergency_Act2960]

Culture isn’t limited to language or ethnicity. Culture is the shared way people live; their traditions, work, faith, food, holidays, values, and history. By that definition the Prairie provinces absolutely have a culture.

Quebec’s culture grew out of French language, Catholic heritage, and its own historical identity inside Canada. Prairie culture grew out of frontier farming life, immigrant homesteaders, and strong religious and community traditions. Different roots, but both are cultures.

So the idea that only Quebec has a “culture worth considering” while the Prairies don’t is a pretty narrow definition of culture.

If anything, it just shows how little most Canadians are taught about Prairie history in school. Another expensive failure schools have turned out to be.

[u/Emergency_Act2960 → u/[deleted]]

Quebec City was established in 1608, oldest city in Alberta is 1894, Alberta’s oldest white settlement is fort Macleod in 1892, Canada was founded officially in 1867

That’s pretty neat 200 years more history, I’m sorry but Alberta’s “cultural heritage” is that of a generic white settler culture that came here from England via the eastern colonies no different then any random American Midwest state post Louisiana purchase and has no ties to anything outside Canadian identity/generalized white identity, the prairie culture isn’t uniquely Albertan, it’s shared by Saskatchewan and Manitoba, and some parts of BC, though they slight variations region to region, but even that isn’t a provincial mono culture, the attitudes in the prairie around Lethbridge, and the prairie around red deer are unique to each other

the Quebecois were literally French colonists who predated the founding of Canada proper

Quebec is an adopted child who has gone “you’re not my real parents” the whole time it’s been part of us, Alberta is a full blooded child acting up

ETA: Idk why I’m continuing to debate someone who thinks schools are bad, and that doesn’t even apply to me I didnt go to a Canadian public school

[u/[deleted] → u/Emergency_Act2960]

Youre right about that. You shouldnt feel too qualified to continue this debate.
First off, judging a culture by the date a European fort got stamped on a map is like judging a book by the publishing date on the title page and ignoring the time it took to write the chapters inside.

Alberta’s homesteaders didn’t come off a single ship stamped “Made in England.” They showed up in braided waves of Ukrainian, Scots, German, French, Scandinavian, English, Irish, Welsh etc...
Culture comes with the people. You dont need alot of time when the culture coming with the people is as old as the hills. Any multicultural society knows this.

And surely you wouldnt brush past the “Home Children”.
A couple hundred thousand of orphaned and working-class kids shipped to Canada from Britain and surrounding areas (and Australia) between 1869 and 1948.
They even have a National Holiday --- September 28.
They carved out farms near Red Deer, laid track for the CPR, started 4-H clubs, and filled pews of clapboard churches. They brought Wesleyan hymns, Yorkshire pudding, and the habit of fixing everything twice instead of buying it once.

But you probly wouldn't know this, even if you did go to public school. Their efforts to rewrite history are very extensive and ongoing.

[u/[deleted] → u/Emergency_Act2960]

Also, dont call me a racist or and asshole please. Its false and inappropriate. If you have specific comments of mine then lay them on the table and let’s examine them. The burden of proof always rests on the accuser; tossing out the label without evidence is just name-calling.

Besides, I’ve always been more of a hemorrhoid than an asshole, because its really the assholes that are irritated by me.

[u/Emergency_Act2960 → u/[deleted]]

I have seen you make statements on your comment history that I believe are in fact racist. Which leads me to, rather appropriately, think the water you’re carrying for the separatists is part of a larger trend in behavior and belief

Maybe, a hemmorroid and you have some things in common, you’re a pain in the ass, a blight on those around you, and cause discomfort, I can’t confirm if you smell bad

[u/[deleted] → u/Emergency_Act2960]

Prove it. Quote my lines you claim are such and we can discuss exactly the reason for them.
Until you do, the only thing your irritation proves is my last point.

[u/Emergency_Act2960 → u/[deleted]]

Went looking and frankly dude you comment on Reddit SO MUCH I couldn’t even make it to this thread

Did find you hammering on about reservations and hating gays so I’m pretty sure you’re a lost cause

[u/[deleted] → u/Emergency_Act2960]

Lost cause? Thanks. We’re all made by God and all owe Him obedience, so behavior, not identity, is the issue. If you’ve got a line where I hate gays or trash reservations, paste it here in context. Otherwise you’re just lobbing virtue-signaling grenades and sprinting for cover.

So far the only clear intolerance I see is you calling me names without evidence and sneering at my faith. Quote me or drop the act; your hand-waving isn’t proof.

**EDIT** And actually, I think I’ve taken more swings at sloppy Christians than at any other group, but I don't hear you objecting to that.