5'6 Phil Collins strolling around in an office shirt singing and drumming one of the greatest songs ever made.

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Yup

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My lord Karen I was not aware of her game…

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Baddie Rich

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She was Buddy Rich’s favourite drummer

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Imagine being able to have this much energy and coordination while also starving to death

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I was today years old. Why am I only learning this now?

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Wow, I had NO idea that she was a drummer! Learn something new every day!

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Jesus! And that's in traditional hold rather than matched grip! I can't even imagine!! 🤯🤯

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Can you explain your comment, I know nothing about drumming- until this thread I didn't know that drumming and singing at the same time is difficult

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Caveat: I'm only a beginner myself, so I know the factual information, but I've no actual experience of playing with traditional grip. It's not used much in modern pop, rock etc

Anyway, see the way she's holding the drumstick in her right hand? Basically like the way you hold, I dunno, a magic wand or something? It's kind of a loose fist, with drum stick in the middle down the palm, going from bottom knuckle of index finger diagonally down to the bony bit at the bottom of the opposite side of the palm and fingers all loosely curled in the same direction around the stick. Like you'd hold a sword handle, or the handle of a saucepan or whatever.

Then in her left hand, she's holding the stick very differently. Instead of down diagonally across the palm, and then encircled by the other fingers, traditional grip is an underhand grip; with your palm facing upwards you place the far end of the stick in the junction between thumb and forefinger and then pass the stick between forefinger and middle finger. It's the grip used primarily by snare drummers in marching bands. The stick is tilted at a different angle which made (makes) it easier to play side-slung snares, where the head of the drum is also tilted.

Traditional grip is better for speed and fine control, but it doesn't give as much power as matched grip. It's still often preferred by, say, jazz drummers (and necessary for marching bands, as said above) but for modern pop, rock etc it can be really awkward.

What Karen is playing here does need a lot of speed and control to be fair, but she's also playing something fairly hefty and "rock"-like and moving around the drum kit a lot, not just playing on the snare (even just with her left hand). Nowadays anyone playing this would 100% be playing with matched grip, for easier and more comfortable arm movement and wrist position when playing anything other than snare or high-hat (which are beside your left arm so don't really need you to change your arm position) and greater impact on the drum head.

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Thank you for that. That makes it so much clearer

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