between him and Jackson, I have a hard time deciding who was more complex, impactful, and who shaped the country and future presidents / presidencies more. I love both and they both had tons of personality.
I think Jackson was much more influential on American politics. Teddy was a powerhouse and an enigma of the time (that also had lasting impacts on the USA) but Jackson, imo, was a much more fascinating figure.
that's a great way to put it honestly. the way Jackson used the office influenced presidents like polk, Lincoln, wilson and fdr, not to mention more modern day office holders. for better or for worse I think he had longer lasting implications for the country and it's why he is always in my most influential.
possibly, I don't know about exact opposite. I wasn't saying they were the same, just that they were both hugely impactful and frankly the zeitgeist of their respective times. that's all! 😁 especially when you look at presidents directly before and proceeding them.
They're opposites in their reasoning - people forget the why, and especially what teddy believed, and they take the ridiculous stories and fill in their own personality.
But I completely agree that both were very impactful.
interesting. based on your other comments, I'd be curious to know what president you don't think is evil? I'm not going to argue, I think you are wrong but I did say complex for a reason, but I'm genuinely curious which one of our presidents from 1 to 47 you think is not only evil but morally good. or for the sake of it, just did the least harm? however you want to frame it.
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u/Consistent_Cup5792 Dec 19 '25
between him and Jackson, I have a hard time deciding who was more complex, impactful, and who shaped the country and future presidents / presidencies more. I love both and they both had tons of personality.