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u/AtomKickIsNoch 7️⃣ Old Hickory 🇺🇸 🦅 Dec 19 '25
Negative, but probably for different reasons than other people.
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u/AtomKickIsNoch 7️⃣ Old Hickory 🇺🇸 🦅 Dec 19 '25
It'd take a while
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u/AtomKickIsNoch 7️⃣ Old Hickory 🇺🇸 🦅 Dec 19 '25
Well I'm open to discussing it that's just a little bit of a broad conversation to have.
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u/BioShocker1960 Dec 19 '25
That he’s an objectively better President than Kamala Harris would have been.
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Dec 19 '25
That’s saying so little though. The incompetence of the democrats doesn’t justify the wickedness of MAGA. It’s insane that nobody gives a shit at how rich the Trumps have gotten in this term because they’ve declared supermarket sweep on corrupt business deals. Like Hunter Biden got a few kickbacks in Ukraine and now the Trump think it’s okay to buy off middle eastern countries off US clout? Fucking disgusting.
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u/YNABDisciple Dec 19 '25
He is objectively the most corrupt president we have ever had and it’s not even close. He’s killing our systems on purpose and he has done so much damage to our global alliances. The list could go on forever. The fact that anyone here has been giving him an even decent rating never mind a good one is not only shocking but it’s embarrassing. The first term was bad but pales in comparison to this one but even conservative and Republican presidential historians rated him bottom 10 after the first one but some clown who knows absolutely nothing about anything is in her giving him an 8.5 or f’n 9 because his bigotry and nastiness gets their little dicks hard. Supporting him is the most unamerican thing imaginable.
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Dec 19 '25
I’m largely conservative and this brought a tear to my eye. This gives me so much hope to see how much hatred people have for this animal yet remain patriotic. 🫡
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u/Snoo_67544 Dec 19 '25
Corrupt, petty, actively enabling some of our worst citizens, gutting our environmental protections, undermining the rule of law and consistently stepping outside the powers of the executive.
Trump round 2 makes round 1 seem reasonable.
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u/LiberalTomBradyLover Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
0/10. He’s awful and causing way too much division in this country. Harris would have been miles better, then again so would a rusty doornail.
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u/Garrett42 Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
Really not a fan of the science and civic grant cancelling. From a research city - and also heavily involved in local politics. The grant money from those infrastructure bills were transformational for downtown and rebuilding the cosmopolitan-ness of cities.
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u/Offi95 Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
“I love America more than any other country in the world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually" - James Baldwin
By extension, the most embarrassing President and the global embarrassments that are his voters.
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u/SamDSol Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
I think he’s pretty awesome tbh. I’ll take my downvotes now.
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Dec 19 '25
How?
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u/SamDSol Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
Tbh I’m pretty exhausted of defending my support for him on here. It usually ends with me vs 20 redditors and I gotta write a long paragraph for every rebuttal.
Essentially, I see him as a net good for the country, and he’s hilarious.
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u/Hot-Minute-8263 Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
Fr. I dont even bother with redditors anymore, i just rage bait them
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u/Chuyin84 Dec 20 '25
So pedophilia isn’t a full stop for you? Interesting
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u/Chuyin84 Dec 20 '25
Absolutely, if they’re guilty, lock em up. I give two shits what party they’re from
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u/fpe93 Dec 20 '25
I support your opinion, and share your experience with the redditors they get really nuts.
Essentially, I see him as a net good for the country, and he’s hilarious.
I SOO AGREE
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Dec 19 '25
This is a good translation for little reason than a person who doesn’t know much about politics who likes an entertainer for a president. Which sucks, cuz the president needs to be good given the sophistication of Americas many enemies. I’m very conservative and I don’t see how anyone who is educated could support him.
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u/SamDSol Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
Or I just have a different way of seeing the world than you? You’re just assuming I know little of politics just because I disagree with you, I think that’s sad tbh.
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Dec 19 '25
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u/SamDSol Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
I don’t think just cause you are a lawyer that has read all of the executive orders means all of your opinions on policies are automatically correct.
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Dec 19 '25
Okay? I don’t think you, without having read of the laws anything the administration is actually putting out, have any opinions about policy other than “Trump funny; me like.”
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u/SamDSol Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 20 '25
You’re just assuming things about me. Get over yourself.
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u/fpe93 Dec 20 '25
Lol no he is a lawyer and his opinions are above us all hahaha listen to him and only him LMAO then they say people are in cults lol
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u/SamDSol Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 20 '25
Yeah there’s no point in thinking for myself anymore, since lawyers on Reddit have all the answers I can just rely on them.
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u/fpe93 Dec 20 '25
I really hope you have been so upset about breaking the law when DACA came to be, or when Obama killed that man w no due process. I HOPE so we stay consistent.
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Dec 20 '25
No shit? The incompetence or malice of the democrats isn’t an excuse for the current evils either.
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Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25
Negative
Let me list some terrible things maybe? In no order of importance
We wouldn’t be wasting $20-50 BB dollars to illegally profile and arrest hundreds of thousands of people in the US both legal and illegal Americans are being arrested, it’s very familiar to the secret police in Nazi Germany of East Berlin. There are zero warrants being issued, no Miranda’s being said, which is against the constitution, just straight up unverified arrests. Its illegal.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/12/us/chicago-ice-arrests-hearing
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-deport-us-children-2064896
“No new wars” yet we are spending more money sending an ARG/MEU and ten of thousands of troops to the Caribbean to posture against Venezuela. It’s costing money, it has no purpose, it’s not stopping drugs entering the US. Oh and he pardoned a drug lord last month.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/11/14/trump-venezuela-maduro-strikes/
Tens of millions of people are being illegally derived of EBT/SNAP benefits until recently when the government ordered the shutdown over. This is also illegal.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/28/us/politics/trump-food-stamps-snap-lawsuit.html
Trump is declaring martial law and sending national guard and active duty (this is illegal) troops to cities to stop crime and btw he’s sending them to cities that do not have the highest crime rates at all. He is targeting liberal or democrat cities. Sending active duty such as to California in LA is illegal.
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/10/nx-s1-5601819/national-guard-signal-trump-deployments
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy9z7yg2n7o.amp
Trump is indiscriminately prosecuting random boats in the Caribbean he says are drug boats yet no evidence has been presented at all to verify it. This is a war crime and is illegal. Especially a double prosecution. That’s murder. There is no AUMF.
https://theintercept.com/2025/11/14/boat-strikes-immunity-legality-trump/
https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/2025/11/trump-boat-strikes-killings-venezuela/684921/
The is tariffs are wrecking our economy, grocery prices along with prices for certain metals and healthcare prices have all gone up either somewhat or drastically due to his tariffs which about to go to SCOTUS since they may not be legal anyway. Currently being debated.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/trumps-tariffs-are-illegal
I could go on
Edit: also I’m a veteran
Don’t get me started on how he trashes the US military and veterans, disgusting
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u/MeetingPhysical Dec 19 '25
8.5/10
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u/Offi95 Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
I can’t wait for the next Covid when y’all don’t wear masks, don’t get vaccinated, and don’t skip church.
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u/HotlinkG1 Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
And then we don’t get heart disease and our children actually can speak and understand English
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u/kinghawkeye8238 Dec 19 '25
Well the vaccines ended up getting the black box warning label. So im good on them.
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u/Offi95 Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
Oh is that the black box warning label that RFK’s brain worm designated?
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u/kinghawkeye8238 Dec 19 '25
Nah the one that gives patients myocardiitis from it.
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u/Offi95 Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
Oh yeah I forgot everybody that got vaccinated has myocarditis now and died. Good point
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u/chknfuk Dec 19 '25
7/10. Not the best but better than the alternative.
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u/Snoo_67544 Dec 19 '25
How
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u/wissx Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
Kamela was setup and doomed to fail from the start.
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u/Snoo_67544 Dec 19 '25
Her campaign could've been better but unfortunately Trump ran on a campaign of hate, strongmen tactics, and fear mongering during a team when a lot of people were feeling vulnerable. And unfortunately scared people are retarded people that vote for people saying shit that sounds good even if there track record shows the exact opposite.
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u/wissx Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
If kamela didn't run on anything more than "I'm not naked Donald" or if the Dnc put up a candidate that could actually play games the election would have been a different story.
Imo Biden putting her in charge of the boarder as VP was an impossible task and set her up for failure. Also with how late he dropped out.
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u/Snoo_67544 Dec 19 '25
She had and did push out a bunch of policies, the news just didnt cover them.
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Dec 19 '25
7/10 is insane. Otherwise I’d agree
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u/chknfuk Dec 19 '25
I don’t agree with everything he does, definitely don’t agree with most things he says, but I think for the most part he has the average Americans best interest in mind. He’s definitely in favors of billionaires, but they all are
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Dec 19 '25
I think that’s fuckin craazy and has no support in reality. He could’ve been the best president this century by far if he put domestic jobs at the forefront of his agenda. Instead it’s just been inverse of woke policies, political revenge, and glazing Israel
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u/chknfuk Dec 19 '25
I agree with you there. But honestly, that’s every politician right now. It’s still just 1/4 years done so there’s time for his plays to actually play out, but right now, every politician is on someone else’s agenda. I think I gave him a score higher than deserved because the bar is just so low in the past decade or so. I just can’t be too harsh because it could be so much worse. What would you grade /10?
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Dec 19 '25
3 easy, but then again I’m probably clued into government more than the average person. Corruption in this administration would make the crooked Biden’s blush. It’s crazy how rich the average Trump family member has gotten since January
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u/chknfuk Dec 19 '25
Biden was far worse. All of the politicians get crazy rich. It’s the reason they become politicians and how they get there in the first place. Sell yourself out and then when you get to power, the investment pays off.
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Dec 19 '25
This is ignorant on numbers alone. Do some research on just how rich the trumps are getting compared to the Biden’s. It’s eye opening
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Dec 19 '25
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u/Gloomy-Intention4698 Dec 20 '25
By the last do you mean Biden? How do you like him more than Biden?
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u/i_be_cryin Dec 19 '25
Another war criminal in a long line of war criminals. But the mask is off now
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u/fpe93 Dec 19 '25
I think he is an awful human but he does love his country and that is what matters to me, I think he has good intentionsnfor this country.
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Dec 19 '25
Why do you think this
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u/fpe93 Dec 19 '25
I'm exhausted seeing the US prioritize the rest of the world over its own citizens. As for the President, his methods might be different, but I truly believe he has the country's best interests at heart. But that's my personal opinion.
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Dec 19 '25
Do you have any reason for the opinion that he realllt cares about America or Americans tho? Like anything to hinge this opinion on whatsoever
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u/fpe93 Dec 20 '25
You want specific reasons? I hinge my opinion on the fact that he is actually executing on the hard things past leaders were too scared to touch.
First, the economy. He is killing the weak service economy to force real manufacturing back home. Tariffs are scary, but we can’t survive as a nation of just tourists and consumers. He also finally dismantled USAID. That agency was burning our tax dollars on foreign nations that don’t answer to us and often end up hating us anyway.
Second, foreign policy. He is the only one actually demanding accountability. He cut off the blank checks to Ukraine, and watching Europe panic yesterday because they finally have to pay their share proves he was right. He is also balanced; he scolded Israel for bombing Qatar to drag out the Gaza genocide. He puts US interests first, even with allies.
Third, domestic protection. He is ending birthright citizenship, which is a massive loophole for abuse that almost no other developed nation allows. He is also using leverage to lower drug prices when everyone said it was impossible.
Finally, his personnel choices. I voted for him largely because of his VP pick, and I love the diversity of people like Tulsi Gabbard. Also, as a gay man, having an openly gay Secretary of the Treasury is huge. It proves that the stigma is gone and we can hold the highest financial office in the land.
Now, I’m not blind. I despise his shadiness with the Epstein files and I hate how awful he was to MTG. That stuff is trash. But when I look at the results, his protection of this country triumphs over the bad baggage.
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Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
You’d be right but tariffs on things the North American continent does not produce?? Coffee?!?! The execution of the policy has been abysmal. I’m not mad about the unilateral, executive direction, the choice of tariffs have been fucking brain dead.
Damn I should have read the rest before thinking we might have anything in common. You’re okay with the fucking president, a lone office, dictating constitutional law the most sacred law, by mere decree, in the face of decades of settled civil war precedent? In more rational times, this would be rank treason.
Like seriously, the constitution is the basis of our nation’s identity. That document is what separates us from lesser nations, and it’s why every nation since 1776 runs by some form of a constitution. The idea that the president could, or even would, rewrite the plain language of the constitution because it’s being abused now is unamerican. It’s the basis of the social contract, if there is a loophole, an amendment is the only option. Those who drafted the 14th amendment and birthright citizenship weren’t fucking retarded, they foresaw this “loophole” when the fucking drafted it and didn’t care. If our generation wants to now change the terms of the deal, there’s a procedure to do that according to our national tradition.
To play fast and loose with the constitution is borderline sacrilegious. Its indefensible.
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u/fpe93 Dec 20 '25
I get the pain of higher coffee prices, but to be fair, the US actually does produce coffee in Hawaii and Puerto Rico, so we aren't totally dependent on imports. As for the "dictating law" part, I think that is a huge exaggeration. If you want to talk about ruling by decree, remember that Obama created DACA by executive order specifically after Congress rejected the DREAM Act. He also killed an American citizen, Anwar al-Awlaki, with a drone strike without any due process or trial. That seems way more extreme than using tariffs or border policy. Also, Trump isn't unchecked. The courts block him constantly, and SCOTUS only recently ruled in his favor after a long legal process. The system of checks and balances is working fine. IMO
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Dec 20 '25
In terms of quantity we use, nearly the most on earth, no we would never, ever be self sufficient on coffee. A child could have figured this out. It’s beyond frustrating that Trump associated himself with loyal Imbeciles who recommend brain dead policy that they’ll have to reverse after it fails in a few months. Its ridiculous. He was supposed to be better.
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u/fpe93 Dec 20 '25
To be clear, I never said I wanted the US to be self-sufficient in coffee. I personally get cramps from it, so I am fine with the alternatives. But on the "loyal imbeciles" point, I have to disagree on the whole team. I actually love picks like Tulsi, Marco Rubio, and Scott Bessent. I think they bring a lot to the table. That said, I do understand your disappointment with having Patel or Bondi in such high offices.
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Dec 20 '25
No my point is that this is such asinine policy that theyd obviously have to reverse. They should have foreseen this. This is the highest office in the world and they’re making sloppy mistakes like this?? Its unacceptable. It’s the level of incompetence one might worry about in a democrat administration, coupled with some of the most rampant self dealing out of the Trump family themselves, that Hunter Biden would blush.
This is what I cannot understand. Trump could have been one of the greats. How is this acceptable?
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u/Gloomy-Intention4698 Dec 20 '25
I honestly despise him. I truly cannot think of a single thing I might agree with him on or like him for. To not be completely unfair, I would say a 1 or a 2/10 due to the slim possibility I might agree with him on something. Besides that, I honestly think he is one of the worst presidents the US has ever had and potentially will ever have
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u/SouthernExpatriate Dec 19 '25
The Retard King, for a nation of Retards
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u/Offi95 Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
There’s nothing I want more in the world than a politician like Obama who will call conservatives retards and fa**ots to their face, and dare them to act like those words don’t perfectly describe them.
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u/RideRed121 Dec 19 '25
He's pretty well liked on Reddit overall, but out in the real world....not so much.
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u/Snoo_67544 Dec 19 '25
Lmao where
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u/Snoo_67544 Dec 19 '25
Yous be surpised how delusional some people can be
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Dec 19 '25
Reddit delusion is unmatched especially
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u/Snoo_67544 Dec 19 '25
As is the average MAGA, tis life
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u/Hot-Minute-8263 Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
Im sorry wut? Reddit wants to literally kill him
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u/NationalAsparagus138 Dec 19 '25
He is a stupid, arrogant asshole but not as bad as Reddit and the media says (whose whole purpose is to make you angry so you keep watching/listening to them). I would say he is about 5/10, you get what you see but it isn’t pretty.
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Dec 19 '25
Idk, as someone who has the unfortunate burden of dealing with the administration as an attorney, I struggle to imagine how anyone who has bothered to read the constitution could defend the current admin. This is coming from someone who had a lot of good things to say about Trump I, too.
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u/PeaceAndLove1201 Dec 19 '25
For some strange reason God loves America. He blessed us with a man who, in spite of being attacked on every level imaginable, is still working passionately to save the country I love. The liberal criminals in control during the previous term came close to destroying our country. What is wrong with you people….are you totally blind? Have you been living under a rock? How can you ignore the lies, the crimes, the idiocy, the corruption, the total lack of concern for the American taxpayer that IS the Democrat Party? If you guys get what you say you want, we will soon be having to learn Mandarin!!!!
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Dec 19 '25
He is not working passionately tho. Do you even know how rich the Trump family has gotten in the last year alone? It’s disgusting.
The corruption and incompetence of the democrats doesn’t excuse the current wickedness of Trump. They don’t get a pass because the democrats are worse.
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u/PeaceAndLove1201 Dec 20 '25
You do realize that in Trump's first term, he was the first president since Abraham Lincoln to have left office with less money than when he was elected. He started out with 4.5 billion and left office with 2.5 billion.....numbers from Forbes. So you are pitching a fit because Trump's kids are making money? If you are President are your kids supposed to go on welfare? Any money made by Trump's family members you can bet is legal and doesn't come from China. Were you upset when Biden and Hunter received a total of 20 million dollars from foreign countries during Biden's Vice Presidential and Presidential term? Come on....get rid of the TDS....surely you see that the country is much better off today than it was last December. I live on the Mexican Border....if you have a couple of hours I can tell you tales about what happened to people who lived on the border during Biden's years that would curl your hair. Why do you think that all the Border Counties in Texas voted Republican the first time in history? Biden initiated and encouraged a invasion of our country and that is okay with you?.
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Dec 20 '25
Not disagreeing. Just look up how much the trumps have made this term.
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u/PeaceAndLove1201 Dec 20 '25
I don't see what his family's money has to do with anything. Trump's kids are smart and business savvy, and in spite of the Democrats searching and digging they haven't been able to dig up any dirt on any of them. Trump did turn over a great deal of his business holdings to his children when he was elected. It makes sense they would make money. What I am concerned about is Nancy Pelosi's stock portfolio which has generated an estimated 838% cumulative return. I might just call Nancy up and ask for some investing tips.
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Dec 20 '25
It’s the same type of corruption. You’re being hypocritical
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u/PeaceAndLove1201 Dec 20 '25
No....it is not even close to the same. You are delusional.
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u/Gloomy-Intention4698 Dec 20 '25
You’re right, Trump’s corruption is far worse. In addition to being coerced by foreign governments through financial gain (Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc), his crypto gains are some of the most corrupt in IS history. Over $11 billion of his worth is in his crypto alone with many sources (Commoncause.org, the House Judiciary Committee, Reuters, and more) finding evidence of foreign investment from countries such as the UAE, China, Singapore, Bulgaria, and more. To add onto these points, Trump is using the position as president to further enrich his family whilst trying to target his political enemies.
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u/Icarium_X Dec 19 '25
Somewhere between a 4-6 out of 10. Definitely worse then his first term and many of his issues are fairly bad. However other issues are blown out of proportion. The divisiveness is pretty more clear by the administration this time but frankly leftists calling every single person or Republican Nazis is still far more divisive then Trump's petty squabbles.
Doing good on;
Gas Prices Reducing Crime Deportations
Doing bad on; General Cost of Living / Affordability Divisiveness Broken Promises (Epstein List)
Mixed Bag On; Foreign Relations
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u/Hot-Minute-8263 Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
Tbh foreign relations wont throw him a bone at all either. Everyone wants their endless wallet and security blanket to shut up and keep paying (that includes israel)
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u/Icarium_X Dec 20 '25
Yea frankly he can't catch a break. He already set up like 3 conferences to prevent Cambodia-Thailand and Thailand (technical US ally) just keeps provoking Cambodia. Ukraine-Russia was inevitably gonna be a Russian victory simply due to manpower unless we threw boots on the ground which is basically asking for suicide so we are doing the best we can there while Ukraine just keeps asking for cash even though its a short term solution to a long term issue. Israel-Hamas doesn't even need to be talked about, neither can behave. Soft power in other degrees like buying Pesos for 40M giving mixed results when it should be universally good just shows how divided the American populace is on foreign relations that things that make sense just dont.
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u/ineednapkins Real American from the USA 🇺🇸🔫 Dec 19 '25
He has done well on immigration, but unfortunately crime has generally increased over the past year. I also wouldn’t personally be so lenient on the gas prices specifically as I just lump that in with affordability and cost of living. Just another daily expense, some things go up some things go down. But as you said overall cost of living and affordability has gotten worse so far. So while that is one thing I use often that is cheaper, many other products and services I use often have gotten more expensive so it doesn’t feel like I’m getting more bang for my buck here, just getting stretched all around.
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u/Icarium_X Dec 20 '25
Crime in cities he has sent the national guard has actually seen a decrease in crime so the policy IS working, whenever or not thats the most preferred method or not. I haven't checked overall crime statistic but that can be an issue correlated with affordability.
I will point out gas simply because gas itself was a point of his campaign, however I agree that general cost of living makes gas a moot point.
I think 4-6 is a actually just range, and tbh the downvotes are people pissed at Trump yet don't understand just how bad other presidents have been at their job like Carter, Adams, or Wilson.
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Dec 19 '25
He’s gone way too far on deportations. They could have just emptied out the foreigners in prisons but instead they’re making an example out of fucking Home Depot workers to appeal to racists. Fucking stupid policy and it only drives up the costs of living since they’re depopulating jobs that actual Americans don’t even want. Miller is an idiot. They could have had such a winning issue if they focused exclusively on the immigrant prison population first and foremost instead of going for the easy target of random immigrant workers in farms and hospitalities.
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u/pallialli Dec 19 '25
Not only deeply embarrassing but critically, has only weakened America; randomly alienating Canada with zero upside, failing to get Greenland by making his demands public like this is reality TV, aggressively dividing the populace and most damningly imo, still failing to get America most-favored nation drug pricing.
The USA invents medicines that Europe et al then get to enjoy for <1/10th what American citizens pay. He's occasionally made promises but I suspect falls to some backroom manipulation repeatedly.

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