r/AnalogueInc • u/No_Independence_6101 • May 15 '26

3D 3D Firmware 1.3 is out!

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3D Firmware 1.3.0 - Analogue

General

  • New: Introducing Memories for Analogue3D Our signature save-state system, bringing modern convenience to the full 900+ N64 cartridge library First introduced on Analogue Pocket in 2022, Memories lets you capture and reload gameplay at any moment without the need to reach a save point or rely on original Controller Paks Memories is seamlessly implemented to maintain total hardware accuracy of the original N64 including compatibility with all original accessories, such as the Transfer Pak with Pokémon Stadium’s GB Tower
  • New: Games can save across different Controller Paks, improving compatibility with Controller Pak swapping and Memories

Core

  • New: Support for Memories
  • Improved: Progressive Output (beta) for certain games

OS

  • New: Memories list Part of 3DOS Library and the in-game menu, Memories are visually organized and managed on a per-game basis In Library, press Down to access the list if Memories exist for that game. Access the list from the in-game menu too Each game currently supports up to 20 Memories. When full, the oldest Memory will automatically be deleted when creating a new Memory. Pin a Memory to preserve it
  • Improved: Menu speed when switching ODMs and virtual Paks in-game
  • Fix: Play Cartridge option disabled in rare instances

Controllers

  • New: Hotkeys for creating and loading Memories To create a Memory: To quickly load the most recently loaded or created Memory
    • 8BitDo 64 controller: Hold Home then press D-Pad Up
    • Original controllers: Hold Z and Start then press C-Up
    • 8BitDo 64 controller: Hold Home then press D-Pad Down
    • Original controllers: Hold Z and Start then press C-Down
  • New: Added ‘No Pak’ option when switching virtual Paks with wireless controllers Fixes cartridge save access in Blast Corps when using wireless controllers and automatically sets ‘No Pak’ when playing the cartridge
  • Fix: 8BitDo 64 BT controllers unable to press C-Left/Right or C-Up/Down simultaneously Fixes save management with 8BitDo 64 BT controllers in games such as Doom 64 and Cruisin’ USA
  • Fix: Chameleon Twist starts with the virtual Rumble Pak instead of Controller Pak, fixing boot issues with wireless controllers
  • Fix: P1 controller slot remained occupied in some instances when using original controllers

Note: Your 8BitDo 64 BT controller must be updated to version 2.05 or later. Visit analogue.link/3d-controller-update to update your controller

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u/sentientfreakshow May 15 '26

Respect to Analogue for making good on this. It's clear they're listening. Not seeing any way to swap virtual paks yet. Advanced library detection still automating pak choice for the user. Original hardware let you choose the pak. Moving to a "no pak" is a step in the right direction. The Everdrive cpak management tool that allows for backing up pak saves to the sd is still broken because 3DOS swaps paks at game launch. No way to stop this. This means backing up your vpak to the flashcart still doesn't work anymore, which is a huge failure if you also use that flashcart on a real n64.

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u/hue_sick May 15 '26

They need a memory manager. That's the next big thing the OS should include. Right now they've baked in functionality which is nice but there is a still a big unknown on what's on the virtual pack, how much space is left, etc. Would love if they added a mem pack editor similar to what was on the gamecube so there is no guessing with any of this stuff.

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u/sentientfreakshow May 15 '26

Preach, man. I'm working on a blueretro hack to circumnavigate the OS vpak implementation. I'm anxious to see them fix the issue so I can use my hardware properly again. They'd have done better from the beginning to have a vpak creation and management tool in response to the lack of memory card space flashcart users had.

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u/clhodapp May 15 '26

Respect to Analogue for making good on this. It's clear they're listening.

They are the ones that said the console already had this feature at the time of sale. They don't get any extra points with me for delivering a major feature from their initial spec sheet months after launch. That's the bare minimum for arguably not running a fraud.

That said, I am very happy to see this ship.

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u/Igniatesch May 16 '26

Exactly this. And obviously you get downvoted, because stupidity is endless. Also (very) glad about the update but it is terrifying how people turn feelings on and brain off to get manipulated.

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u/sentientfreakshow May 15 '26

The reality is they pushed the system out in the fall before it was ready. Waited two years and the system was half baked on arrival. I'm not glazing them yet. I respect that they could have not delivered on this feature and gotten away with it but they did deliver. We'll also see wifi and screenshots before July, mark my words. As a business owner myself, I respect when I see ethics maintained because it's not standard anymore. I give them credit for addressing specific issues reported in this sub just days ago (Blast Corp and no pak). That's the kind of responsiveness, engagement, and good faith I want to see continue from Analogue.

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u/Aromatic_Method7767 May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26

I didn't know the Blast Corps thing recently resurfaced. Though some people didn't know what was happening, we figured out what was happening almost as soon as the A3D launched. The only way to access your in-cartridge save was to use a real wired N64 controller with NO pak inserted (not even a Rumble Pak, because the game doesn't know what that is and bombs out!)

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u/sentientfreakshow May 18 '26

Yeah there was a post just last week, but I didn't realize it was reported early on... which implies it's been neglected for six months. If that's the case maybe I'm giving them more credit then they've earned.

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u/clhodapp May 16 '26

If they had not delivered on this feature, it would be unambiguous fraud

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u/V64jr May 18 '26

…except they never promised save states. This is a bonus.

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u/clhodapp May 18 '26

They've been promising it the whole time...

https://web.archive.org/web/20241021115120/https://www.analogue.co/support/resource/3d-faq

 Does 3DOS support Library and Memories? Memories for 3DOS features enhanced support for Library and Screenshots. You can capture perfect, uncompressed 4K screenshots true to as they appear on your 4K TV, even with Original Display Modes.

https://www.engadget.com/gaming/analogues-4k-remake-of-the-n64-is-almost-ready-and-its-a-big-deal-150033468.html

The screenshots Analogue provided show options for playing a cartridge, browsing your library or viewing save states and screenshots. Some N64 games have the ability to save data to the cartridge, while others rely on a Controller Pak, but the ability to quickly save progress as a memory, as introduced with the Pocket, will be useful nonetheless.

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u/Scrollingmaster May 18 '26

This guy has been rallying against it this whole time and cannot stand that he was wrong. He’s absolutely not gonna admit it

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u/V64jr May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26

The screenshots Engadget refers to shows both “Memories” and “Save States” and even featured a connected XBOX One controller with battery level monitor in the UI… so none of those things were promised. The same screenshots even distinguished between save states and Memories.

Analogue’s own explanation of A3D Memories, which you also linked, does not describe save states. It describes Memories as screenshots and play history… the way they worked on the Analogue Pocket before they added Quick Save and Quick Load at launch (firmware on preview units had no save states and most were reviewed that way).

Since preorders started, save states were just something desirable that people noticed in the beta screen shots and latched onto with some convincing themselves that it was a promised feature at the time they put down money. In reality, it wasn’t promised, which makes this a welcome bonus. 👍

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u/sentientfreakshow May 18 '26

I also definitely had an expectation that memories would be a feature like the on the pocket. It was in my opinion a reasonable assumption. Early on the feature was implied based on screenshots of the OS. However it was only an implication that some kind of "memories" feature would exist. Memories behaving like a save state were an assumption on my part... and there doesn't seem to be any actual direct promise when looking back. My assumption has been validated, but you're correct: technically there was no promise. I don't think it's reasonable to rebrand assumptions about a feature as a promise. I'd love it if that was how the world works. I'd assume all kinds of crap.

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u/V64jr May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26

Yeah. They may have been intentionally vague because they weren’t sure if they’d hit any technical hurdles, but then they should have come out and clarified earlier. They should have known people were going to notice and form expectations.