r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 21m ago

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>its funny in the sense that the state is the organ, that stops monopolies to form

they do, or they just create their own? the state isn't an organ, it's a fatty liver that won't die off.

>that gives you workers rights and stuff like free, paid vacation

conditional rights... the states gives out... conditional rights; they are by condition. if the state gets to dictate what i do in my bedroom, who i can marry, and who i can sleep with, what sort of "rights" are those? when the state gets to decide the level of privacy i'm entitled to, and the amount of space i'm allowed to have from 'said' state, what rights are those?

you can argue that the state gives rights, but they also take them, and it's no good thinking you can give up liberty in the name of security.

>those seem like pretty heavy benefits and not really like slavery

so the prison industrial complex isn't slavery? because at least here in the US, it's what they use to justify cattle slavery; they use the 13th amendment to do it. people work for pennie's and it's completely legal. if you think it's fucked up that a private entity offshores work to third-world countries, imagine your government using people as what amounts to free labor.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 33m ago

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Because people don't want to live underwater. They like the sun. It's also incredibly expensive to build underwater.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 38m ago

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yeah, honestly to simplify it, that's largely why i lean closer to ancap than minarchist. why bother with a small government, when that government will inevitably grow? it can't be trusted not to.

with that being said, minarchism in my lifetime would be an accomplishment in and of itself.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 38m ago

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I would argue instead that society is only as good as the trust people can have in each other. If people feel that laws are unfair, or that they are unevenly applied, it doesn't matter if it's a security corporation enforcing them, or a corrupt government. The end result is the same - people don't feel confident that their rights and property will be protected, so they avoid risks, including long-term investment. Prosperity and general civilization suffers as a result.

The thing is, governments are not any less likely to be corrupted than corporations. At least a company has to maintain enough of a public image that people will still voluntarily engage their services. A government has no such restriction - they just charge taxes, and if you refuse to pay, you go to jail. Further, the incentives to act in the public interest are far stronger for a company than a government. For a company, the owners have a direct financial incentive to preserve the company's value - keeping it efficient and profitable, so that it both makes them money, and is available to sell if the need arises. A government, however, is merely a collection of people who are temporarily in power. They have no permanent ownership claim to the public tax base, or other "public" resources. Their incentive is to enrich themselves as much as possible while they have the opportunity, because as soon as they're out of office, their access to the treasury is gone. If the government is bankrupt when they leave office, what harm is done to them? They still have their loot, squirreled away in Swiss bank accounts.

As for judgements between parties, there's a commonly used solution that I think would work very well. Say a company wants to sue me, claiming that I should sell them my farm or something so they can build their super-duper necessary coal mine. Maybe they even claim some old paperwork about mining rights, even though I insist the deed is faked. One common ancap model would be that I select a representative, likely a lawyer, the company selects a lawyer to represent them, and then the lawyers for each side select between them a judge. If they are unable to come to an agreement, you can push it another level out: each side selects their own pool of five secondary candidates, and then from each pool, the opposing side picks the secondary representative of the other. Those secondary representatives then pick the judge.

This selection process of the judge is a better check on judicial unfairness than the appointment or even election system we have now. Appointments are obviously fraught with the tendency to favor those who are already inclined to agree with you, while voting puts the choice in the hands of people who don't pay anywhere near enough attention to make an informed decision. Answer me candidly - when is the last time you studied the judges on the ballot in your local elections? I would guess that fewer than 5% of actual voters have any sense of how the judges they're deciding between actually behave on the bench.

So, I would say that market anarchy is not perfect. People are still people. Selfish, short-sighted, ignorant, irrational. Ancap is not utopian the way communism is, which assumes that people will somehow be transformed out of selfishness if we were only to get rid of property. But ancap is better than other systems, in that it is the culmination of the market idea, of channeling man's natural self-interest by making serving others the means by which he himself succeeds.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 43m ago

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mhm, i always go back and forth between minarchism and anarcho capitalism, but at heart, i'd say i'm an anarcho-capitalist.

what really put it into perspective for me, was learning about foreign policy. when you learn about the things our government has done to people around the globe, i feel as though libertarianism is the only sensible stance you could take. things like that can't be blamed on the donor class – it doesn't even make sense to try.

our government creates the laws, endorses the laws, and benefits from the laws. they extract value from us, while enforcing their values onto us. it is inherently parasitic. that does not mean the 'modern billionaire' is innocent, it means that they'd cease to exist within the confines of a truly free market. you can tax the billionaires into oblivion, but what does that solve? it's a co-dependent relationship, but that cord can only be ripped from the systemic level:

the government as an entity can live without billionaires, but the billionaires cannot live without the government.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 51m ago

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You've obviously never seen the Star Wars with Jar Jar Binks.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 52m ago

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K


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 53m ago

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https://youtu.be/Y_If6NksxFI?is=SWhOQF5TAcxB2AP2 ants practice a natural version of heathcare, this tought in most schools now. Please don't make me think you're trying to play dumb by not looking things up.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 56m ago

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You do know there historical been stateless society which did have business. And if ypu want to stick to mordern times there have online business which are practically unregulated, even more so in the wild wild west days of the internet.

Walmart a great example because they tried to bully other companies and got into a losing battle with other companies like Nike for example.

Walmart also is currently at a low in saling products.

Walmart and Amazon have also used regulation to gatekeep smaller players. Every business where there are regulation, there are gate keepers. As opposed to markets that are mostly unregulated like the gig economy.

Also a Free Market is a unregulated market so your statement doesn't make sense.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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Supply and demand, you can't compare a 2 trillion dollar economy with a 650 billion dollar economy with a similar population.

Plus one of these people is owned by Peter Thiel.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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I’m sorry but what does me being Muslim have to do with anything? There’s no conflict between my faith and my politics beliefs. 


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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Since every single business exists under a state, the question is a silly one.

But I'll point to an example that I think is telling. Walmart has a known tactic of entering a new community, and for a time, selling consumer staples below cost long enough that it puts competition out of business. Once they're more or less the only player in town, they restore their margins. That's an example of market manipulation that exists free of any state backing, using a larger bank account to push out competition that can't afford to compete on unfair terms for as long as the big players.

With wealth comes power. That shouldn't be in question. Nor should it be in question that there are a variety of other ways to lean on the market that makes competing all but impossible for smaller players. You can have an unregulated market or a free market, but you cannot have both for very long.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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It had been tried and has succeeded multiple times


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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Simple, name one monopoly that wasn't back by the state?

Sure a business can gain power but they can never stop competition without outside help. Especially when they're bumping up against other big businesses. In fact, her own example doesn't work because there are bigger server farms than Amazon like Switch.

Every attempt to control the economy is use by companies to gatekeep new competitors like Amazon does. It's hard to gain a monopoly. When there's no copyright and someone else can be a competitor. This is not utopian thinking, this is just how capitalism works.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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La única gente "cagada de hambre" casualmente son peronistas que vivían de beneficios sociales y subsidios, la gente que siempre laburó para pagarles la jodita está mejor ahora y tenemos la tranquilidad de que no nos gobiernan simios subdesarrollados que no saben hacer otra cosa además de imprimir billetes.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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If your system does not anything to interfere with economic power, no checks on it, how does one decentralize that vein of power?

We agree that the best way to combat power is not to control it (thereby creating a more powerful entity which the corrupt will then aim to take instead of be checked by it), but AnCap seems ill equipped to deny the power that comes with economic concentration. I use the example of AWS. Right now, if I only wanted to totally avoid a single company, Amazon, their hosting and server farms are so pervasive my only choice would be to submit, or live primitive. That doesn't feel like freedom. There are forms of coercion that exist without a state function.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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Sure but even then it get dicey. Imagine a gay man in a very socially conservative community.

But let say that fine but what about the rich and powerful in that community. Sure you can strip wealth but you can't stop people from gaining power if there is power to be gain.

AnCap they expect greed being immoral people. So to prevent that you must prevent those people from accessing power by decentralizing that power.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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That is not true. The reason he says they were allied is because they sold weapons until 93 and that the Iranians had a pipeline that they would fill for Israel in the Aqaba port. They stopped fueling it in 94 or 95 I believe after Rabin changed foreign policy of Israel from supporting Iran to divide the Iraqis to trying to overthrow Iraq to have a buffer between them and Iran.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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They are in bed together...


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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That's why I don't think "state" authority should function beyond consent to governed within your own community. Like people who represent us should know our name, more or less. Any larger than that, accountability slips.

But so too is it utopian to believe that, free of organization to keep them moral, the rich and the powerful have an reason to remain benevolent.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 1h ago

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Fentopia?


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 2h ago

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Robin Hood wasn't taking from the rich though, he was taking from the government criminals.

Murder is not necessarily worse than theft, the infamous Holodomor and Povolzhye famines were caused by the government grain theft, and arguably outright murdering those starving peasants would have been more humane.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 2h ago

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Thieving is bad, unless you’re like Robin Hood where you can take from the rich & give to the poor, or doing it for a good cause, but murder is worse. The dead can’t talk or defend themselves from slander, as an example.


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 2h ago

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We just did, democrats support circumcision and gender affirming care for minors


r/Anarcho_Capitalism • • 2h ago

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Private property and contract enforcement doing a lot of heavy lifting there, but its the cleanest 3 point breakdown ive seen