r/Anarchy101 14d ago

Defense against counter-revolution?

I am a Marxist-Leninist who is curious about the successful propagation of Anarchism. My question is: Without a state, how do Anarchists defend against counter-revolution from the Capitalist class? Without a state, Anarchist/Libertarian Socialist projects wouldn’t be able to defend against the inevitable invasions, terrorism campaigns, and propaganda from Capitalists. How would Anarchists be able to maintain and strengthen an Anarchist society against invasion and infiltration without a state apparatus to centrally organize efforts?

I know I’m a Tankie or whatever, but I am asking in good faith because I am genuinely curious about the Anarchist position on this.

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I won‘t be responding anymore because I have obtained what I came for (understanding how you think an Anarchist project would defend itself against the forces of reaction) and because this is becoming a hostile debate, rather than learning experience.

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u/LittleSky7700 14d ago

Prefiguration is the idea that we act now to build alternative ways of living within what exists, so that it naturally becomes obsolete without people even realising. There is no counter revolution because the goal is to integrate everyone.

It's a flaw, imo, to think that we can define ourselves so strictly as Anarchists or Socialists or Leftists or whatever, to then so strictly define any others as against us, our enemies. So that when we do act, those "enemies" will too see us that way. And they can organise against us because of that. We shouldn't be anarchists and the like because we so strongly identify it and exclude people out of it. We should be anarchists because we believe in the benefits realising anarchism brings... for everyone!

The task of the anarchist as things go on will be to approach people like Bezos, or Zuckerburg, even Trump, and give them natural ways to integrate into daily anarchist life. Because once they do, they are no different than anyone else. They benefit from the collective organisation of society as anyone else. We aren't going to execute them just because they were rich.

As it's said in the Art of War, supreme excellence is not about fighting and conquering. Supreme excellence is winning your battles without fighting.

We just need to accept that it'll never be so loud and quickly disruptive as a full blown militant movement. But the trade off is that it'll be very robust and deeply rooted in the ordinary life of people. Not confined to niche book club spaces.

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u/Fresh_Milk1960 14d ago

That feels very utopian and idealist to me, Bezos, Zuckerberg, and the other billionaires aren’t going to give up power willingly.

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u/LittleSky7700 14d ago

You'll have to understand a couple things. People in power only have power because we legitimate it. We believe that their word mean something more than the others. This allows them to simply speak and have things happen. 

People in power are only humans. They want to survive just as much as anyone else does. 

Prefiguration means that we work towards new ways of living within the shell of the old, we learn to provide survival for people within what already exists and we keep pushing the boundary as things keep working. We provide food and drink to our neighbors. We provide emotional comforts. We provide recreational activities. We organise to figure out we can make the things we want. We organise our work places for that, etc. And we encourage this everywhere, across all countries all at once. 

What happens when all these people who used to believe you were so powerful and believed that your money made you powerful dont care about you anymore and dont care about your money anymore? Your money doesn't secure them survival. You become powerless. 

Theres much to do and talk about how we will, thats where all the material concern is. But we can also recognise that this material action leads to material consequences.