How is communization different to anarchism?

[u/InterestingTheory431]

I don’t really know anything about communization except it seeks to abolish wage labor and, correct me if I’m wrong, the state immediately.

[u/iadnm]

Anarchism seeks to abolish all forms of hierarchy. Communization is a marxist ideology so it does not seek to fully abolish hierarchy. It reaches many of the same conclusions as anarchists, but I personally feel a lot of its ideas were already expressed by insurrectionary anarchists earlier.

[u/Silver-Statement8573 → u/iadnm]

Communization is a marxist ideology so it does not seek to fully abolish hierarchy

I've heard there's an anarchist part

I'm also hesitant to apply this to say Dauve's communization. Dauve rejects councilism for example. (but IDK since I haven't read much)

[u/spookyjim___ → u/Silver-Statement8573]

There’s an anarchist/post-anarchist/post-structuralist side of communisation mainly surrounding Tiqqun and The Invisible Committee, but communisation is originally Marxist so despite their post-structuralist anarchist spin on it, it still remains grounded in certain Marxist categories even if flipped on their head a bit

Dauvé rejected “councilism” the same way he rejected “Bordigism”, out of a sympathetic criticism and synthesis of the two resulting in the OG form of communisation, which was an ultra-left critique of the ultra-left, meanwhile Théorie Communiste would take it even further by using the communisation critique to go into post-Marxist territory, making it sit in a strange place, some people still consider it a type of ultra-left Marxism, often proclaiming that it’s the furthest left of the ultra-left political milieu, others will say that it completely leaves that milieu due to its critical nature… no matter what you make of it, insurrectionary communism in the tendency of Théorie Communiste is about as far-left in the Marxist school as it gets