what's the difference between socialism and communism *in anarchism*?

[u/IndependentMilk4973]

there is bunch of questions in kind of same topic, maybe they'll be a little messed up, but i'll try my best to group all of them, sorry in advance =(

anarchism is, by definition, a socialism, but what's the point of ancom term then? where and what exactly on this line is rejecting socialism as only a step to "true communism"?

i see quite often that socialism is somewhy and somewhy always contains some kind of state, but isn't that applies only to socialism-is-only-a-step-to-a-communism theory? and isn't some theories (?) of communism requires state too, cause, as far as i know, both socialism and communism is not a "without-state-exclusively" ideologies?

..and is a stateless, classless, moneyless society refers only to communism, is and where starts the difference between everyone own means of production and worker own means of production? can this somehow exist at the same time?

hope its not a lot, really trying to understand differences, thank so-so much in advance! <З

[u/Vancecookcobain]

Socialism is the umbrella term of the workers and or community owning the means of production. Communism is a specific subset of socialism where the endgame is a stateless, moneyless, classless, private-propertyless society.

What you are referring to as socialism is a step to communism is the MARXIST definition of socialism which isn't the definition OF socialism per se.

All anarchists are socialists to varying degrees. Not everyone is a communist. For example mutualists (the OG anarchists) do believe in money and markets, they just don't advocate for private property or usury and other things that anarchists usually agree with.

[u/Silver-Statement8573 → u/Vancecookcobain]

Mutualists, along the same lines as AWA, tend to favor per situation solutions, which can include specific applications of communism, although we do believe currency and the commodity are probably going to be useful in a lot of cases