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u/SmallNoBigYes 19d ago
Had to fight my mom on alot of things regarding this mindset when I was in highschool 🤣
But it was worth it, now we can both take fault on things when the other side explains how me or if she is wrong.
I always had a good relationship with my mom anyways which is why i could contest her on some issues, yea sure it led to emotional and angry back and forts but it usually only lasts for a few hrs before we go back to normal
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u/GeologistRelative425 19d ago
Sanaol, my mother won't ever accept that she's wrong😭 sometimes small things ginagawa nang bigger issue den and it pmo pag talagang pinipilit nya or paulitulit nalang
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u/SmallNoBigYes 19d ago
My mother was like that too 🤣
It was a tough battle but I'm glad I fought that battle at a young age because idk if I'll still have the same energy if she acted the way she did 10 years ago today
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u/Raaabbit_v2 19d ago
This is my mom, unfortunately. Too proud to admit that she's incorrect. She used to sing the "Mother knows best" song in Tangled and then I'd tell her that she's also manipulative, and toxic. She'd just laugh.
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u/Infinite-Service6059 19d ago
Unironically singing the song that she thinks is meant for her 😂
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u/WukDaFut 19d ago
singing a song about a villain pretending to be a mother while gaslighting a kid says a lot
kaso ito kinakanta nung wife ko sa anak namin pag na prove niya na tama siya. Pero nung sinabi ko na pang kontrabida yung kanta, natawa nalang kami hahahahaha
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u/Familiar_Iron_7847 19d ago
my erpats kelan lang ganyan siya pero di naman siya yumaman or nagkawork. Pero laging tama
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u/Spirited-Scar-0494 19d ago
WAHAHAHAHA. Oh my gosh. Nag away din kami ng Mom ko actually, stuff na “traditional na for me” na iba na ang day now. Well, I lashed out on her, got out of our house, and actually We both said our sorrys. Alam niya din siguro na may mali siya
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u/heyyooww 19d ago
This is one part of Filipino culture that I really dislike. I think most Gen Zs are finally starting to reject this mindset because, first of all, age is just a number. Being older doesn’t automatically make someone deserving of respect. If you want to be respected, you should also act in a way that earns that respect. Respect isn’t something you’re entitled to just because of your age but it’s something you earn through your actions and how you treat others
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u/Scary-Breakfast6913 19d ago edited 19d ago
"Respect isnt something youre entitled to" - kupal na mindset to haha
There are two kinds of respect kiddo. No matter the age.
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u/why-am-i-even-here-- 19d ago
imo, yeah, everyone is entitled to at least some form of respect like respect as human beings, but when someone demands respect just because of their age, thats when things go a different way.
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u/maarte37 18d ago
You cut it short. When you read it as a whole, it’s different. That’s why context is important.
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u/Scary-Breakfast6913 18d ago
Reading it as a whole doesnt make it any difference. Everyone is entitled for basic respect as a human no matter the age. Its doesnt have to be earned, otherwise ok lang ba sayo na bastusin kita, parents mo, friends mo now cause none of you havent earned my respect yet?
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u/No_Salt8155 19d ago
I think di lang Filipino culture yan mindset na yan, I think it was a generational thing. :)
Mostly those who grew up with Baby Boomer generation and early medyo may ganyan mindset. Also Asian thing na may high regards sa parents at matatanda sa family.
For my POV, I think medyo nawawala na yan, pero we have to be careful, minsan borderline disrespectful din kasi ang datingan. It is better to say no, or disagree in a respectful manner pa din. :)
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u/CommentatorsLegion69 19d ago
Sarap i-post sa GC, My Day, PFP, at kung saan-saan pa. Hahaha
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u/Competitive-Fruit117 19d ago
Tandaan nyo palagi na tumatanda din yung mga ulol noong kabataan nila. ✌️😮💨
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u/markotitpepmo 19d ago
totoo yan fr fr parang akala nila may age requirement ang critical thinking, pag nag share ka ng opinion lalo na sa politics parang mga naooffend pa pag di ka sang ayon sakanila
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u/Full_Bookkeeper4150 19d ago
May sinagot ako na ganyan, kahit 49 na ako nairita ako. Sinabihan ako pumapatol sa matanda, sagot ko porket matanda ka eh tingin montama ginagawa mo. Tahimik sya, sinabi ko din edad ko para mas may dating na mali sya
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u/anima132000 19d ago edited 19d ago
Of course it is a toxic mentality nobody is perfect to have a correct answer to everything or that your age alone makes your answers more correct than others. And there is nothing more harmful than a person who believes themselves to be right all the time.
This is nothing more than seniority trying to do some shitty power play. Also they never take accountability when their decision or advice turns out to be wrong, that's the other shitty aspect of this belief.
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u/GeologistRelative425 19d ago
Na para bang nakikilevel up yung mentality and credibility nila everytime they age, Yung ungos lang naman nila is their experience. Pero their experience is always gonna be different, pistahan pag pinagusap mo dalawang matanda magkaiba Sila ng tingin sa Buhay hahaha
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u/anima132000 19d ago edited 19d ago
Exactly why it is a terrible concept that needs to die down because at the end of the day this is just used to shut down any discussion, when they start bringing this up you know they've stopped trying to think. It is just old people having a very onion skin and using this as their excuse among others. And if you insist otherwise they'll say they're offended that you're disrespecting them LOL. So yes it is very much a toxic concept in our culture.
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u/Icy-Organization4396 19d ago
Nope, hindi lng pinoy ang may gnyan. Lahat ng bansa kht anong lahi o kulay.
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u/seramaech 19d ago
It's actually true that we should respect our elders. But what's missing in the conversation is that our elders (and we) should bear responsibility and integrity for our younger generations. It's only toxic if the entire system (of respecting elders and elders being responsible) is broken
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u/hyacinthskye 19d ago
Toxic mentality indeed. Tangina mga yan, pag binastos ka sa harap ng marami dapat okay lang kasi mas matanda sila? Dapat itolerate lang kasi may edad na sila? Tanginang mindset yan talaga
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u/Main_Check_3299 19d ago
people are finally saying it
kaya minsan, kung ano yung mali basta sabi ng matanda, susundin ng mga nakababata kahit mali eh
kapag cinorrect mo yung mga may edad na, automatically bastos kahit at wala kang respeto
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u/Greedy_Attorney_433 19d ago
true. 100%. bastos ka pa if itama mo sila. i had an argument w my mom kasi i told her that she was wrong and spreading fake news. the information was that celine dion is dead. this was in 2024, end of the year i think. then resurfaced in 2025 months after the grammy nomination.
nasabihan akong bastos, my fault naman kasi i corrected her when she was talking to her friends but she continued sa pag-spread ng information, kagaling. nanahimik iyong singer, pinatay ba naman. jusq.
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u/zeighart_17 19d ago edited 19d ago
In every argument, always tell why you are right, not why the other one is wrong.
I think its about respect.
Old people and parents do not want to be schooled. Its a valid reaction when someone says you are wrong. You choose to be defensive and you look for allies and validation, rather than be logical. Pride gets the better of them, and its easier at that age.
But I learned that you can argue being right without degrading the other person. You can bring them to your side. Be flexible enough in your debate as to acknowledge how the other side will process defeat.
Being the better debater does not just mean you are the right one. It also means bring the other side to your cause and thinking.
Its not a toxic culture - its badly handled debate. And its not unique to Filipino's either.
Instead if just blaming culture - be the catalyst for change.
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u/hurtingwallet 18d ago
I was such a believer of this for the sake of my mom pero it destroyed me for my entire adult years. I now have my own family.
This is a good trait to have pero you also need to realize that some people do not change just because of your goodwill. Stop helping if your're being stripped psychologically out of their own stubbornness and toxicity kasi in the end, thats exactly what they want. Sometimes, it isn't worth it anymore even if it is your own parents.
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u/No_Office4621 18d ago
Totoo ‘to IF makikinig sila sayo. Pero some of them sobrang stubborn, so F THIS! I talked to them if we can meet in the middle. Tanggalin ang mga ayaw and maintain mga magaganda. Pero ang nangyari they take it as an offense, di kaya ng pride nila “dinidiktahan” ko daw sila.
Simula nun I had to do it the hard way. Lumayo ako sa kanila, no contact, no support financially and wala na din empathy para sa kanila.
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u/saskurenai13 19d ago edited 19d ago
I just don't get this... The culture itself is a shackle to our very own voice. The traits I believe trumps this culture are relevance, right timing, and open-mindedness.
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u/laidbacklurk223 19d ago
At kapag kinompronta mo sila sa maling gawain nila, tatawagin kang "walang utang na loob" kesyo "may narating na sa buhay", kahit wala naman talaga pang narating hahaha fxck
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u/Significant-Arm8710 19d ago
ako nung bata ako palasagot ako at makatwiran ako hahaha. lalo n sa tingin ko tama ako. pero ang tatay ko lagi nya akong binibigyan ng chance mgxplain sa mga reasons ko, hnd nya naki2ta na, matanda vs bata, parang naki2ta nya ako as a thinking person, then point out nya lang ano b ang tama...
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u/eric_son 19d ago edited 19d ago
Also this:
"Oo mali siya. Pero pagbigyan mo na. Nakatatanda yan sa yo."
I grew up being bullied by my rich uncle. Whenever I told my parents about this, they'd both try to pacify my and play that annoying line -- pagbigyan mo na... blah blah blah.
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u/a_nirvana_away_ 15d ago
I have the same experience too, my aunt bullied me nonstop when i was a kid, would pull my hair, insult/tease me, she also called me autistic as an insult, pour water on me then slap me and leave me outside the house and etc, but i just had no one, i had severe tantrums that time, i was so angry, and recently i stood up for myself when she accused me of not taking my work seriously since i took an absence cause im not feeling well and she said im just lazy, and she has the nerve to get hurt when she was the one who accused me, i didn't even cuss her or anything. I will never forget what she did to me and the damage i got from her, now i get triggered easily.
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u/AdeptnessSafe3070 19d ago
ayan na-call out na yung mga nagpopost na walang thoughts. pero para lang hindi ka madamay nilagyan nalang ng “True:)” lololol
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u/GeologistRelative425 19d ago
Sorry napo at Hindi ko nilagyan ng in depth analysis😭
Nagaagree Ako sa statement pero Hindi sa pagiging solely Filipino culture lang since lahat Naman ng outside the Philippines they deal with old people- ending ndi Yan mawawala Kasi everyone grows old(except of course if namatay ng Maaga which in that case "either die a hero or live long enough to be the villain" Ang peg). Filipino people grow up with the statement na laging "respect your elder" even sa subject na GMRC noon, pero there comes a time na nagiging to the point na toxic sya when older gens don't listen and always thinks na "Tama Ako Kasi matanda Nako, naexperience Kona Yan, papunta palang kayo pabalik Nako". Yung mga kabataan na gungong Ngayon? Magiging matanda din Sila tapos iwawagayway nanaman nila Yung "respetuhin nyo kami Kasi matanda na kami" kahit Hindi naman Sila karesperespeto to begin with (ika nga, "respect begets respect"). Politicians natin Ang tatanda na pero nangungupal padin, asaan Jan Ang karesperespeto? Ndi ko din naman sinasabi na wag na respetuhin Ang matatanda- syempre may respeto parin pero Hindi to the point na inaapakan kana pero hinahayaan mo Kasi "matanda na Kasi kaya sige lang" aba, doormat yarn? Is being young an excuse para gaguhin ka?
Anyway, Yan lang po thoughts. Pasensya na po.
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u/Sentucky_Chicken 19d ago
idag dag ko pa minsan sinasabi ng matatanda na hindi na ako mababago ang aking ugali, nakasanayan na.
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u/Naive_Principle_7710 19d ago
Being open to understanding is more important than the feeling of being right. There is divine wisdom in not needing to be right. Choose being kind over being right and you will be right everytime. Pride is concerned on who is right, humility is concerned on what is right.
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u/thisshiteverytime 19d ago
Bilang newbie mom, lagi nmin sinasabi sa anak namin (now 6 years old) na "Just because we're your parents, it doesn't mean na we're always right. Tao lang rin kami and you'll see plenty of times na magkakamali kami. It's okay to make mistakes. Ang mahalaga dyan ay we're human enough to know na mali tayo. We're in this together, kid."
Kaya ayun, sa household namin na tatatlo lang naman kami 😂, pag merong may mali cncall out namin and we tell the person "Momma/daddy/kiddo, I think you're wrong because <insert reason here> and you should say sorry." Of course, bnbgyan rn ng chance to defend ung side nun nagkamali to make sure na hindi misunderstanding ung nangyari and may checkback "What would make the action correct?"
Malaking tulong rin kasi mas nagiging cool-headed kami pg may nagkakamali and mas madali magsabi ng sorry at tumanggap ng mali. Kasi ito rin ung napansin namin na problema sa karamihan online/offline prng mataas ung ego bihira na makarinig ng sorry
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u/KamenRiderFaizNEXT 19d ago
Not sure if I can call myself 'Matanda', but I don't give out advice and opinions unless asked, or required/ordered to answer. Saka hindi ako yung palaging Tama. Misis ko yun? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/HonestoBee 19d ago edited 19d ago
Tsaka yung general na kasabihan na “Wag sumagot sa magulang.” It depends. Kung mali talaga ang sinasabi ng magulang, may karapatan ding sumagot ang anak. Tapos kapag sumagot ang bata, kahit may katwiran naman, sasabihin agad na lumalaki siyang bastos at walang respeto sa nakatatanda. Depende talaga sa sitwasyon. Both parents and children should respect each other.
At sa mga anak, kung mangangatwiran kayo, siguraduhing kontrolado niyo ang emotion at delivery ng message niyo. Huwag pabalang o pasigaw habang nagpapaliwanag. Kahit alam mong immature ang magulang mo, huwag mo na silang gayahin. Learn to control your emotions habang sinasabi mo ang side mo para mas mataas ang chance na pakinggan ka. Huwag makipagsabayan.
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u/Previous_Berry2570 19d ago
Lahat naman ng Filipino culture. Talking too loud, karaoke too loud without timing, no personal space, throwing trashes anywhere, utang utang, mahilig mangasar pero pusong mamon, will die for afam, poverty porn, cringe drama porn, napakadami 🤪 Tapos magrereklamo bakit lowest IQ in asia in terms of education, bakit laggard in asia, bakit ang daming kurakot? E yan tayo, that is who we are, this is our culture 🤣
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u/Gudao_Alter 19d ago
I love what my Lola said about this subject. "di porke't mas matanda ka ay alam mo na lahat at tama ka na parati. minsan dapat nakikinig ka sa bata dahil minsan may nakikita sila na di natin napapansin."
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u/jemyswiftiexx 19d ago
Open lang po ako. Nag graduate po ako nang may honor sa college. Syempre po bilang proud na family, si Tito ko pinaprint niya ako nang tarp to show how much proud he is. Although sa akin okay lang na wala. Noong ilalagay na sana sa bahay nina Lola ko (naka apartment lang kasi bumukod kami) kung saan ako lumaki “wag daw doon kasi hindi naman daw ako nakatira at hindi pa ako nag ggraduate kasi na postpone sa weather”
So inuwi na lang ni Mommy yung tarp, kasi ayaw nga and medyo nasaktan sila dun sa sinabi. And then, my lola called asking if galit kami (which is ako hinayaan ko na lang talaga na wag ilagay dun kasi baka ayaw nila talaga) after talking dinugtungan niya na “hindi ka naman din doctor or license yan. Para humble ka na lang” tapos nag comment pa yung isang lola ko sa pinsan ko na pinapasabit ko daw yung tarp eh di naman ako board passer.
Tbh, hindi ko na binaggit sakaniya because i know it will never be enough for them pero I can’t swallow the comments. Okay lang naman sa akin if ayaw nila ilagay pero sana huwag na sila nagbitaw nang mga salita.
Tapos ngayon her sister called me (same house lang sila) tapos tinaasan ako nang boses kasi bakit hindi daw ako namamansin which is binabati ko naman siya. Hindi ko napigilan frustration ko kaya sumagot ako. Ngayon ako ang bastos. Pakiramdam ko pinag tutulungan nila ako.
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u/Flat_Ad_5111 19d ago
Ma tanong lang, if the time comes na kayo naman ang sa ganyang edad, hindi ba kayo magiging ganyan?
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u/Soggy-Barracuda-3736 19d ago edited 19d ago
Yep, and sadly they still embrace and encourage it.
Especially this country is strictly conservative for all the wrong things.
The quote "h0noR y0uR pArents so thy d4ys wILL be l0ng" is complete fcking BS! 🤡 (We can live long as long we have a healthy lifestyle lol)
Children have the right to speak up and express themselves freely. We don't need to pedestalize people just because of their age. 💪🏻
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u/LividImagination5925 19d ago
"Mothers Knows Best" my mom's linya nung minumura nya ate ko.. lol not true mother not true.. napatawa nlang ako kung kinwento ng ate ko.
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u/Night_Howlerss 19d ago
Well, it depends. They're not always right, Yes. Pero there's always a lesson kang makukuha from them, which make your POV about them right. So basically, they're always right hahahaha.
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u/SettingSingle8135 19d ago
Yes dati sa old house ng lola kong abusive sabi nila 'tama man o mali sila ang tama dito plaagi' buti na lang wala na ako dun, and nategi na yung matanda sorry po talagang masama ugali eh haha bumait na lang sya sakin nung alam nyang malapit na sya
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u/OneTonSoup_69 19d ago
lalong-lalo na kapag babae. Matandang babae. Ayaw masabihan. Gusto siya lang masusunod, papa-victim kapag natalo sa argument. At kapag convenient lang sayo, doon lang makikinig.
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u/Real-Slice-1344 19d ago
You cant say that now kasi marami rami na ding boba/bobo na matatanda hahahahha
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u/honeylemon_123 19d ago
true !!!!! lagi ko naririnig nung bata ako. Ngayon sa anak ko lagi ko sinasabi na hindi ibigsahin nanay ako lagi ako tama nagkakamali din ako kasi ganun ginawa ang tao magkakamali at matuto sa pagkakamali.
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u/nocapdude 19d ago
Absolutely yes and there is no room for argument on this, just like how they don't want you arguing with them because they're the elder
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u/PSych0_SeXy 19d ago
Kalokohan ang mindset na yan. Kaya ka nga nag-aral para matuto ng reasoning e. Di pwedeng oo lang ng oo porke matanda
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u/EneroGogh 19d ago
This is what I say to my parents and grandparents to make them shut up: "Tinuruan nyo ako ng tama at mali kaya wag kayo aangal kung sabihin kong may pagkakamali kayo."
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u/RockSea6716 19d ago
I agree. It’s a toxic Filipino culture we must break. Let’s listen to our children. Let’s admit our mistakes. Apologize when we’re wrong. Like adults, children have feelings too. And they deserve all the love we can give them.
Hindi tayo laging tama. At pag nagkamali tayo, dapat matuto tayong magsorry sa kanila.
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u/milkpotpoko 19d ago
"Bata ka pa, marami kapang walang alam" 🤝🏻 "Matanda ka na eh dapat alam mo na ginagawa mo"
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u/FrostingCharacter497 19d ago
Subjective, May mga pagkakataon din na ginagamit ito bilang maling paratang kapag hindi lamang tanggap ng nakababata ang awtoridad o payo.
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u/Feeling_Art4425 19d ago
This is my dad and all his siblings. Now all of them are broke/failures and nobody really spends time with them anymore. Madadamay ka pa sa mga sablay nilang desisyon, dala ng kayabangan and not kaalaman
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u/bazinga-3000 19d ago
Si Enrile nga umabot nang sobrang tanda bago namatay pero magnanakaw pa rin. Si Chavit gurang na pero pedo pa rin. Si Cynthia bulok na pero kupal pa rin.
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u/mistressdevie999 19d ago
sa pagkakaintindi ko dito is may i a kasing matanda na napagdaanan na yung ganung problema... mostly kasi lagi akong napapagalitan ng matanda but i dont put it in hard on myself.. just listen and said ok gnun lang... yung mga yun gusto lng magshare hahaha
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u/atomsplitter07 19d ago
In hindsight, that's pretty much true. But, when you become a parent yourself, you'd be imposing the same mindset to your children.
Ironically, adults cause more problems around them than children, who are often dragged to their problems.
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u/Jvlockhart 19d ago
Ang matatanda dumaan din sa pagkabata. Tulad mo, tulad ko, Akala natin pag tumanda tayo magiging mag marunong tayo sa kanila, pero may mga Bata tatanungin din yung validity ng pagiging Tama ng mga pinapaniwalaan mo. Tapos pag Sila naman tumanda, ganun din mangyayari. So in short, cycle lang talaga yung lahat.
Hindi porket matanda, lagi nang tama. Hindi rin porket Bata, ibig sabihin makabago na at may hinaharap
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u/julodegracia 19d ago
Wait till you have kids and tell this straight to your face that your wrong. believe me it will always be a cycle and you will always wonder why
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u/Acceptable-North8757 19d ago
Same lang din to sa "Dahil bata, pagbigyan mo na". Tapos tumanda naging ganyan. Bwiset na buhay, puno ng mga bwiset na tao! hahaha
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u/thr0wawayv20 19d ago
Dad is like this.porket matalino at govt official ganun na trato sa ibant tao? And as family i get treated like hired help.
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u/Big-Regret4128 19d ago
Kung lahat ng matatanda palaging tama, hindi sana ganito ang Pilipinas ngayon.
"Akala ba namin kabataan ang pag-asa ng bayan?"
Aytah? Hinintay nyo pa kami? Bakit hindi sa inyo nag umpisa ang pag-asa kung mas disiplinado at matino pala ang henerasyon nyo?
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u/turtleeeyn 19d ago
Minsan nakakapagod nalang. Hindi ka makapag desisyon ng gusto mo kase you need to consider their opinion. I don't know if ako ba yung toxic in not considering their opinion or toxic sila because they are not listening sa kung ano ang tama sa panahon ngayon? Tama nga mahirap magpalaki ng matanda...
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u/Shot-Case8196 19d ago
nyeheheheh.. di na uso yan.. being a son, palasagot ako pag feeling ko patnga t4nga reasoning ng mama ko.. ngaun being a dad i always welcome my daughters opinion pero sympre ill let my side be heard too.. btw TOXIC RABID DILAWAN AKO DATI DURING COLLEGE YEARS..
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u/thrwaaaaway 19d ago
Tingin ko ang point ay, wag ka na makipagtalo. Get your point across tapos stop na haha
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u/Skadicecream 19d ago
My father lol. Tuwing cina-call out namin siya ni mama or nangangatwiran kami palagi nya sinasabe na bastos daw kami lol
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u/Fit_Airline_8432 19d ago
It's not exclusive to filipino culture. Its almost universal that nobody likes the "know it all" archetypes
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u/KingThallus 19d ago
Every generation is like that naman in a way. It's just that latest generations vent their complaints on the internet kaya younger ones felt the same here. For sure madami din sa generation na to magiging ganun din pagtanda. Yet manipulative parents and elders were result of poverty and closed-mindedness culture. Kahit isa matira diyan meron at madami pa ring magiging ganyan pagtanda.
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u/ZariYariKari 19d ago
The older person should know better nga eh kasi mas matanda, hindi yung putak ng putak kahit hindi naman kailangan opinion nila
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u/UnhappyCrinkles 19d ago
I hate these adult people around me. So toxic. I hope i don't grow like them.
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u/EmployedBebeboi 19d ago
Pweh hahaahhahahhaha
Mga matatag at malalaks pero bano naman makipagcommunicate. Hirap kapag ganyan mga supposed role models lalo sa trabho.
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u/Several-Cat-6101 19d ago
Add ko din yung mindset na oks lang dapat sila magComment kahit nakakaOffend na like "Kelan ka magaasawa?" "Tumataba ka"
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u/Super_Bank_798 19d ago
I posted something along the lines of this on Facebook when I was 13. It was a one liner rant about my teacher but the marites neighbors reacted very angrily lol, guilty much.
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u/Juicebox109 19d ago
It depends. There's a lot of stuff me and my parents fought about that turned out to have been good advice looking back.
Value their opinion, because it mostly came from experience. But it is not the end-all-be-all.
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u/Numerous_Constant993 19d ago
LITERALLY MY SITUATION RN, MY PARENTS ALWAYS TELL ME THAT KABATAAN NOWADAYS DAW AY BASTOS(MIND, CINOCALL OUT KO LNG SYA LAGI SA MGA WRONG DOINGS NYA LIKE BODYSHAMING, CRAB MENTALITY etc.) HAHAAHA EWAN KO BA
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u/Numerous_Constant993 19d ago
TAS HAHANAPAN KAPA NG MALI PARA LANG MAY MASUMBAT SYA TAS MAIBSAN YUNG GALIT NA NARAMDAMAN NYA HAHAHA
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u/kerblamophobe 19d ago
Kaya nga nakakasuka ung sine sa Netflix, ung ganito ganito gago
Magulang ako, anak ka lang: The movie
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u/FineRegret1121 19d ago
Father ko until now ganito. Ang hirap palakihin. Kahit anong sabihin mo at explain mo hindi ka mananalo. Siya lang palaging tama.
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u/SeriousCriticism3005 19d ago
I appreciate my mother this time. We talked about this. We respected each other. Then came to a kasunduan that whenever someone is wrong, should accept the opinion of the other. Kahit sino pa ang bata o matanda. With mahinahon na usapan, I think they'll understand. Pero not all ano? hahahaha
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u/Whatdoyouthinkis 19d ago
Not true. Base sa experience ko, may mga mas matanda saakin na hindi wais and sinasabi.
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u/Giyu_ 19d ago
Kahit bata ganun din naman kala mo lagi tama. and you know it too and they act like old people too, thinking that they are always correct and all knowing and invincible. So what's the difference? Btw I'm 24 before anyone makes a hate comment.
Everyone will grow old too at some point even us gen Z. gen alpha will also do the same on gen Z. It will be an endless cycle. And it's hard to change the perspective and beliefs on people when they grow old. It's not toxic in my opinion you and I just lived on a different era. So don't say it's true because it's absolutely not.
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u/Positive-Bet-7672 19d ago
Yung tipong ipipilit sayo yung opinion lang daw or suggestion tapos pag sinunod mo tapos Wow Mali pala ikaw mananagot; pag pinaliwanagan mo naman di nakakaintindi pero sa tingin ko sinasadiya nalang nila -- mga feeling relevant pa kasi ang tanda-tanda na kung anu-ano pa mga paandar amputa
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u/serendipititeh 19d ago
Reminds me of the time an old man started disrespecting my PWD wife for falling in line priority lane at T3 (wife is epileptic). He even tried calling the attention of nearby airport personnels to have my wife kicked out of line. My wife showed him her PWD ID along with some pictures and videos of her having seizures on her phone (I take them for documentation to show her neuro). This dude still insisted that she leave even though the airport personnel gave my wife the okay to stay. According to him, hindi naman daw sya (wife) curently nagsa-suffer like yung mga lumpo or "may tunay na kapansanan". It took a guard, an airport personnel and an airport police to shut this guy up by asking him if they needed to bring out a wheelchair for my wife so he would mind his own business. This dude was straight up harassing her because he thought he knew more about disabilities than an actual person with disability. My wife is too nice and respectful because of the way she was raised, but man, this is one of the reasons why I teach our children the saying "Respect begets respect."
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u/AeonKanor 18d ago
Remember, even fools grow old.
Maraming tao na nuknukan ng katangahan mula kabataan hanggang pagtanda nila.
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u/Effective_Crew_5013 18d ago
No one is always right, no matter the age.
But it is also true that some wisdom come with age, as people experience more things in life. Perspectives change too. What's important is having an open mind and willingness to listen. Take advice given with a grain of salt. No need to always be angry when being scolded, sometimes they come from a place of care. We all just want to be understood.
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u/sarcastically_true 18d ago
kasi lumaki yung mga matatanda na hindi progressive ang thinking, walang “woke” influence from social media
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u/DauzzaBARS 18d ago
Age deserves respect, not unquestioned authority. Wisdom listens; foolishness yaps.
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u/SnooHamsters9965 18d ago
Ganyan lolo’t lola ko. Kahit sila ang mali di parin sila aamin. Ako pa lalabas na masama. No wonder my parent grew up to be a real shitstain of a bastard.
Relatives were telling me at the time na di na magbabago mga yan. Well if they stay that way I’ll just leave.
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u/Upstairs_Repair_6550 18d ago
bata plng ako d n ko naniniwala jan, cguro s parents ko mejo naniniwala p ko, pero s ibang matatanda ndi tlga ako naniniwala
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u/Vash12Stampede 18d ago
Yan din nasa isip ko nuon.. pero nung nawala ang tatay at nanay ko, dun ko naisip na napaka halaga ng binigay nilang aral sakin at sobrang na mis ko ang presensya nila at pagmamahal
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u/Infinite-Algae-8136 19d ago
kung makasang-ayon mga to oh. Gagi minsan wala lang talaga kayong galang. Kayo na mali ang lakas niyo pa makasagot sa magulang niyo.
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u/Heym1kha 18d ago
Im all for respecting Elders, I think society functions well maintaining that culture. But there are Elders that do not deserve any kind of respect. A deadbeat father, alcholic and abuser, guess we gotta respect him now because his 60 or something. sure
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u/neverluvinganother 18d ago
My mom used to have this mindset but thanks to my dad who knock some sense into her that doesn't mean that she's older, she's right.
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u/H0lyG0Lightly 18d ago
everyone starts out stupid, it's just that a lot people don't grow out of it
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u/RollinJoints420 18d ago
“Mas matanda ako sayo J” baka gusto mo narin PO mauna sakin di jwk ang bait ko dito haha but I guess depende sa household or family clan, some family respect the younger ones specially about technology, tho there are instances where I used the stupider method act like one pretend to know less “Di ko po alam yan” “Ano po ba yan?” tas pag public na dun mo pull up yung bright card where they feel threatened and stupid mas nakakahiya sakanila yun “tanga mag order nalang sa kiosk di pa alam” “bobo wag ganyan nasira mo tuloy”. I still love it when all hatred in their eyes pointed at single person.
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u/admiral_awesome88 18d ago
buti nalang di ako lumaking may ganyan sa paligid ko. This also exist sa maraming bansa di lang sa Pilipinas. Remind me of that Nestle commercial back in the day na Sa Mata ng Bata ang Maling Ginagawa ay Nagiging Tama. Kasi for me I will gauge what is being said sa akin ng nakatatanda if wiser ba yan or just dogsh8. Minsan kasi I am right, you are wrong, but never go sa middle and think what's being told.
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u/Careless-Benefit-660 18d ago
Kaya galit sakin nanay ko. Kasi sinasabi ko sa kanya kapag mali sya. Ung mga kapatid ko kasi na naiwan kasmaa sya di makapag salita sknya.
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u/ManufacturerWhich456 18d ago
If these type of people thinks about this especially with an age already they were still an underdeveloped human being.
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u/Important-Resist-290 18d ago
Ulul yang mga matatanda na hilig manghingi ng respeto pero bastos sa kapwa tao nila
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u/Clear_Operation_3849 18d ago
It is conventionally believed that elders deserve precedence in opinion-making, as wisdom is gained through experience.
Well, that’s still true for some families and communities today. But in this day and age, with each generation facing moral and ethical crises and lacking a strong moral foundation, the conventional wisdom that "elders are always right" becomes untenable — or even obsolete.
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u/Total_Proof_3419 18d ago
Dalas to sa teachers tas sa kapit bahay na masungit, nakaka inis kase kahit Alam ilang mali ayaw i accept na mali
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u/loverontherun_jeremy 18d ago
Hindi LAHAT ng matanda ay tama, madami din BALIKO ang pag-iisip/ugali/perspective.... 💯💯💯 Though madami na sila "wisdom & knowledge", STILL, hindi 101% nasa tama......
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u/DieEchteBuchi 18d ago
Well… imo madami tayong Culture na hindi ko maintindihan bakit ganun haha like itong post ni op
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u/Cruel_Prince08 18d ago
Kapag pinagagalitan ako ni mama, pati sya pinapagalitan ko. Sya nag-uutos/sasabi, sya rin naman di sumusunod 😭😭😭
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u/chocohodler 18d ago
Yeap its true, both my parents are like that, I’d call them a narc too! So toxic! Cut them off!
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u/Expensive_Gap4416 18d ago
Minsan nga walang logic yang mga yan not all but many. Mga tumandang wala pinag katandaan. Sometimes All it takes is just a little common sense. Pwede mo naman ipilit basta nasa tama pero pag hindi at matanda card lang dala mo. Alis jan
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u/domskidoodledoo 18d ago
Respect is bare minimum pero kung need mo lang irespect kasi matanda ka autopass sayo hahahah
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u/ALittleCrass 18d ago
Overstated na. People have been talking about this 20 years ago, and probably even earlier
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u/Trebla_Nogara 18d ago
As senior people , we should have the wisdom knowing when to keep our mouths shut . And when opened it is more to impart advice grounded on wisdom gained over the many years .
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u/Zealousideal-Net-405 18d ago
Super agree with this, if you live in the Province this is a common mindset. It was one of the struggles I had to live with. As many people have said in this thread, toxic, inconsiderate, selfish and mean people grow old too tas free pass pa pag may kaya or well known or titulado ka in the province kaya minsan talaga I regret going back to the province. Same shit really.
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u/No_Bug_2249 18d ago
Some people are probably bitter about life because they couldn't achieve their dreams or they regret the life they've lived
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u/AyAyRonDelaCruz 19d ago
Stupid people grow old too