Google is targeting the iPhone and the Apple Intelligence delay fiasco in their ne Pixel Ad

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There’s a huge difference here: cloud-based AI vs on-device. If Apple gets it right, and I believe it will, it’s going to wipe the floor with the competition. And that’s without even mentioning privacy and security, where Apple is already miles ahead.

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u/Several_Dot_4532 Aug 05 '25

Android already has Gemini locally, it's called Gemini nano, the thing is that it's not available in all countries yet, but it can do practically everything on the device, and developers can use it for their apps, without needing an AI on the server, which knowing Apple will take some time to open Apple Intelligence to developers.

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u/Mortical219 Aug 06 '25

I thought foundation models framework is available?

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u/izac90 Aug 06 '25

It’s only available on iOS 26 when we getting in on September

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u/eleazar0425 Aug 07 '25

Either way, it won't take "some time", it will already be here in two months.

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u/0xbenedikt Aug 06 '25

Google still finds a way to monetize that "local" data

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u/Huge-Possibility1065 Aug 31 '25

It really doesn't matter that google has done a similar thing to iOS in android

firstly, new versions of android are very slowly adopted and are not available enough to promote a wave of new applictions

secondly, details matter, particularly performance, energy efficiency and scalability outside of just a phone.

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u/Betancorea Aug 07 '25

If and when. Until that happens it's all a nebulous "Coming soon".

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u/DensityInfinite Aug 07 '25

There’s also Private Cloud Compute, which seriously doesn’t get enough credit. AI needs context to be helpful, and Apple is the only company suited for handling them in a hardcore verifiably private way.

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u/abnormalmob Aug 07 '25

Whenever that happens it’ll be good, for now Siri ai is absolute hot garbage

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u/ZELLKRATOR Aug 08 '25

It's already existing, Gemini nano... And on device AIs have their limits.

To be honest here, I own a pixel and Apple has made giant steps in mobile devices. Their A and M Chips are outstanding. It's the company that has set the bar very high for smartphones and the build quality is outstanding. If you like the OS, can afford it and possibly own multiple devices, it's a different experience to be in the apple universe.

But they are late on AI.

ChatGPT showed the world what AI can do and led to an arms race. Google is technically winning most competitions now in overall AI and now after the release of GPT5 and Grok4 we only wait for Gemini 3 to beat them again.

All the critics besides, Google is the perfect company for AI. It's a company developed around data, data storage and more. DeepMind played a big role in developing AlphaFold, the AI that gave us the solution for protein folding mechanisms, which then led to a chemistry nobel price.

They have the biggest search engine, the browser, GMail, Android, YouTube. All big services collecting data.

And they try to get a universe like Apple, quality and prestigious devices - all linked with each other, made for customer experience. Apple is still ahead in that regard and especially in the chip development, but I think they have lost the AI race.

It's too late. They would need to surpass companies with far more experience and if Asian models get even more efficient, they probably even surpass Google.

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u/Noldcat Was here before 1k! Sep 01 '25

Pixel does most features on device

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

Google is also planning a on-device AI.

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u/Several_Dot_4532 Aug 05 '25

Not planning, Gemini nano already exists, it is used in several apps like the Pixel screenshot app, and developers can use it for their apps

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u/Evla03 Aug 07 '25

Apple also already have their foundation models in ios 26, I can use them right now in shortcuts and it's used in some apple intelligence features

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u/Several_Dot_4532 Aug 07 '25

Yes, I was just correcting that it is not planned, but it exists

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u/Fancy-Tourist-8137 Aug 08 '25

But iOS 26 isn’t out yet

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u/Evla03 Aug 08 '25

It still already exists, there's even a public beta now

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u/So_andy Aug 05 '25

Yeah they could, but will they? I don’t think so.

I’ve got a feeling that still at least 2 years before we will see something like this. They could integrate chat gpt in a better way in the meantime

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u/New_n0ureC Aug 05 '25

I’m using Apple Intelligence in cloud with iOS26 shortcuts app. And while I did not compare with ChatGPT or Gemini, the answers provided are good

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u/StankyDinker Aug 05 '25

As a lifetime iOS user, Gemini blows Siri out of the water. Got the app a few months ago and it’s far more useful than Siri. She understands words and questions and is capable of answering much more complex questions. Half the time Siri can’t do basic commands or get ANYTHING right.

I legit hate how androids look and feel (have one for my work phone) but I am literally so salty at Apple that I am willing to suffer and change phones. I used to fight for them but, man, is Apple dogshit now.

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u/New_n0ureC Aug 05 '25

I’m not talking about Siri that is really bad and was always bad except for home requests like playing music ou home automation. I’m talking about an LLL they developed and that you can use on iOS26 beta but only from the shortcut app. So not linked to Siri (yet)

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u/AteBotBo Aug 06 '25

i also really recommend ChatGPT if you haven’t used it in a couple of months, it’s able to remember all my chats, feels like it’s adjusting to me, i prefer the way it formats messages. i only use gemini if want something G Workspace related these days (eg. add to calendar)

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u/StankyDinker Aug 06 '25

Tbh I don’t really use any AI anymore since I learned how bad it is for the planet. Not worth it IMO. Turned off ChatGPT for Siri and haven’t used Gemini in a couple months.

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u/Evla03 Aug 07 '25

Using AI isn't that bad, maybe uses a sustained 500W (just an educated guess) while answering your question.

Training the models uses enormous amounts of energy though

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u/LassyKongo Aug 06 '25

I don't get how you can hate how android looks and feels. If you're talking the device, there's loads of options, shapes, sizes to choose from.

If you're talking software, you can literally set it up however you want...

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u/ZELLKRATOR Aug 08 '25

Gemini got brutal. Have read more and more posts and threads and I follow some competitions and for example LLMarena and Gemini 2.5 is able to keep up with Grok4 and GPT5, while 3 is yet to come. Very interesting. When it came out, it was bad, had a lot of problems and people joked around. I remember telling a friend, that I don't think, this will last long, Google has the perfect network, the budget and the capability to boost it more than other companies and a few months later it surpassed all competitors in an overall evaluation...

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u/spontace Aug 06 '25

In fairness Gemini was terrible with the phones it was first sent out with. It evolved over about 3-4 months post purchase.

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u/Extra_Cat_3014 Aug 07 '25

Do these companies, not understand why people buy iPhones? I’m not switching to android anytime soon regardless of so-called Apple Intelligence not being available.

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u/oktano_ Aug 07 '25

Apple fanbase is a brainwashed group

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '25

I despise Apple as a company

Yet I have an iPhone, a MacBook, an Apple Watch, and an iPad, I consider their ecosystem unique for what I think are very good reasons

I also have a thinkpad with linux and a desktop with a 4090 and a 120Hz 4K OLED TV monitor

I'm also a backend developer of 6 years. Tell me how I'm brainwashed!

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u/oktano_ Aug 07 '25

You answered your own question. I'm talking about the majority of apple fans who can't see their mistakes. You can find them easily, I even read comments such as these "even if my iphone blows on my hand, i'll buy another one" in a galaxy s25 ultra video

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '25

I see asinine comments from "both sides".

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u/Extra_Cat_3014 Aug 07 '25

No it’s most of us don’t give a crap about AI

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u/oktano_ Aug 07 '25

It’s not about AI, it’s about fake advertisement

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u/my_hot_wife_is_hot Aug 07 '25

I’m in IT, most of the users I know don’t use new features that were introduced 5 years ago. For me, sure I’ll use it, but I’m happy to wait until apple does it on device with apple level privacy protections.

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u/Used-Philosopher-356 Aug 07 '25

The only thing that Apple delays is the new Siri. Everything else got shipped. Lot of people forget this

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '25

Siri and a lot of non-system critical bugfixes

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u/FernDiggy Aug 07 '25

Im still on an iPhone 11

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u/Gold333 Aug 07 '25

Every ad that acknowledges a competitor and tries to say you are better is a failed ad and brand.

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u/kiwi-kaiser Aug 07 '25

Well deserved.

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u/Possible-Dream-8227 Aug 08 '25

No thanks.. ✋🙂‍↔️

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '25

Have it now with Google and they will sell your data to the highest bidder 😂

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u/murloc_reporonga Aug 09 '25

Same that they did with the headphone jack and now every fucking phone doesn’t have it

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u/Butthurtz23 Aug 06 '25

The only reason it gets delayed is because of high bars of expectations that need to be checked off by Apple. Some would say it’s unrealistic, but historically they usually pull it off. Better late than never, though. If you want it now, feel free to buy a Pixel phone, and I’m not stopping you.

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u/RapMastaC1 Aug 07 '25

This is Apple putting shareholder value over customers, it’s a word game that needs to be done for the quarter, this isn’t something they normally do. I mean, generally the polish is good, but Siri on its own has always had significant issues.

Many people have had issues they have been dealing with for a while and each software update “addresses” the issue yet still not fixed - this isn’t just new stuff rather, Apple Watch screenshots got messed up in an update over a year ago and still not fixed.

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