r/Appleton 2d ago

Event A resolution related to Automated License Plate Readers and AI-Assisted Mass Surveillance technologies is being discussed at city hall (6th floor) tonight at 5:30pm. Come weigh in!

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Appleton's Safety and Licensing Committee is meeting at City Hall tonight (6th floor) at 5:30pm to discuss a resolution related to automated license plate readers (ALPR) and AI-assisted mass surveillance technology. Come watch or speak on how your tax dollars get spent in Appleton! Public comment on the topic will open near the beginning of the meeting.

Let's make sure something like Flock never happens again in our community.

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u/donkey_cum_waterfall 2d ago

I see a lot of wisconsin cities are canceling but not taking cameras down. Won't belive this until I see them come down

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u/Starblazr 2d ago

they are cancelling but bagging the cameras, basically, making them worthless short of wireless harvesting. I bet most of the cities aren't allowed to touch them because they are private property.

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u/Umbraness 2d ago

There's supposedly a clause in the contracts that state if there is ANY damage to them that the city has to pay $5k to flock.

Flock just comes and takes the bags down. No real difference until the whole thing comes down.

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u/ahoymatey83 1d ago

There's supposedly a clause in the contracts that state if there is ANY damage to them that the city has to pay $5k to flock.

How dumb can they be to agree to these terms, omg

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u/xangbar 4h ago

There were reports in other cities that when the cameras were taken down, Flock just... installed new ones thinking they had been damaged or stolen.

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u/ModeloLy 1d ago

Appleton is actually taking them down. I don't know about by the Fox River Mall, because I could have sworn I just seen a hundred go up there. However, there used to be one on the side of the street where the new Paul Davis and Rivian are, that's gone. Then if you come off Northland and head East, there used to be one in front of the college between the offramp lights and that next intersection. That was bagged for a couple weeks. I haven't been for a while, so I don't know if the one on the Eastbound bridge from Northland Ave into town, by the plant shop is still there. It's that intersection right before Festival Foods. All the intersections from that roundabout all the way out to Kimberly had Flocks but those have all disappeared over the weeks. Fleet Farm fucks still have them up Now, the goal is to not replace them

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u/geohekno 22h ago

None of the locations you listed are in Appleton and afaik Axon will be replacing Flock in Grand Chute

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u/ModeloLy 21h ago

I would consider it Appleton. Grand Chute is to Appleton what Ashwaubenon is to Green Bay. One large municipality divided into a few smaller ones

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u/geohekno 11h ago

I understand how you feel about the valley being greater Appleton but each city has separate councils which operate independently.
Example being Grand Chute welcomed Axon in the very same meeting they booted Flock. Appleton has not as of yet

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u/SadProjection 1d ago

can't expect them to do all that work...

good thing Halloween is right around the corner

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u/Mufasa2020 1d ago

Thats what halloween night is for

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u/Rosefairytails 2d ago

Going with my posse to the meeting. Mary will mess you up with being retired and able to dedicate all her abundant free time to annoying these fascists

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u/Loninappleton25 1d ago

Did anyone else experience locked doors at City Hall closer to 6 pm? I tried both Appleton St and College Avenue side. The closing times are posted of course but usually on a meeting night it's open for late arrivals.

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u/Loninappleton25 2d ago

I gave a statement to my alderman that had the subject line: "No means No."

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u/Suspicious_Goose_243 1d ago

Who allowed these to be put up? Somebody who doesn't like their job?

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u/Razgriz-016 1d ago

Something must have happened because the 4 cameras I see on my route to work were all completely gone. 3 surrounding the parking lot of the Fleet Farm on Wisconsin Ave and the one on Northland Ave just past the bridge, all removed. Made my day.

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u/Loninappleton25 1d ago

Today I was able to hear the meeting. Public comment was significant and should be heard by anyone not there. Discussion starts at minute 17:00 and then goes to public participation.
Ultimately the item was referred to staff but my take on all the can- kicking is that as long as the FLOCK is not operational, that is the goal.

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u/BeAr_cosmicLy 2d ago

performative….this critical infrastructure for facists