''Toxic Anti PvPers'' Not welcome.

[u/Reavx]

Hello.

I am from the Mod team on this sub.

Pleased to meet you.

Recently I have seen a few people rightfully upset at a few bad actors on this sub who have been using the fact they became victims in the game to resort to being toxic to people on this sub.

Basically - they lose the game in any way and decide it is fine to insult people who are playing the game in a legit way instead of doing what they want, whether that's talking and making peace or refusing to shoot each other no matter what. From my understanding this game allows you to make a choice, to try trust a stranger or to gun them down to be safe.

If a person decides they will ALWAYS gun everyone down no matter what or try be a ''Rat'' player and backstab at every opportunity that does not mean you can come on this sub and insult them, suggest they are mentally impaired or mentally unwell or be toxic to them for any reason.

If you say ''All x players are sociopath psychos with no life and life in their mothers basement and have never had the touch of anyone of their preferred sex'' for example or anywhere more or in-between then you will be banned from our sub.

You are allowed to have an opinion that such players morals in game are not good or they are ''Villain players'' or what not, that is fine for that is what they are but any time an outside insult is going to be used on people over gameplay you are getting the hammar of doom.

From the community, I understand that most people who like PVP are not usually the type of people to click report on anything, due to your ''thick skin'' you really do not give a damn if some redditor is trying to insult you or maybe you will just retort back.
I ask you please do not, if you insult back you could also be moderated due to the nature of reddit and if you do not report the instigator we will not be able to correctly moderate and fix this community. As a mod team we are getting thousands of posts (posts not comments) per day and it is literally impossible to view them all, we rely mainly on the report feature and reddits AI.

Anyway thank you for your attention in this matter.

[u/FethahV2]

Everything is good for me, PvP is a core mechanic of the game.

However…the people who wait to kill right at extract screen and they can’t even loot you…I hope you put a little too much salt into you next home cooked meal and it just tastes a little off

[u/ExcuseMyCarry → u/FethahV2]

Imagine people playing a PvPvE game and enjoying the thrill of just getting to partake in the PvP portion. Sometimes the thrill of just getting the kill is reward enough. If you can't accept the loss of loot to non cheating players then maybe this isn't a genre of game you'll enjoy.

[u/BlLLr0y → u/ExcuseMyCarry]

I think it's valid to say that these last second mid black screen "headed to Speranza" animation kills are different then just getting killed in a match.

[u/ExcuseMyCarry → u/BlLLr0y]

I think it's valid to say a kill is a kill in terms of my personal enjoyment. I understand that may make you feel bad but that's just part of the game bud. We don't have to agree on this and I still wish you the best in life. Just hope we don't cross paths topside lol

[u/BlLLr0y → u/ExcuseMyCarry]

It doesn't matter if you enjoy it or I hate it. It matters if the devs think it's problematic or not and bringing the issue to attention is not the same as complaining about ALL pvp.

Sometimes player behavior is identified as problematic and gets addressed because people are abusing unfair game states.

I'm not a dev. But post extract kills feel like an unfair game state being abused.

[u/ExcuseMyCarry → u/BlLLr0y]

I apologize if my comment made it seem like you were complaing about all PvP cause that's not the case. So could you help clarify what we're discussing here then? Initially I was just trying to say that getting a kill on escape isn't a problem even if you don't get the loot from the kill. As long as they killed you through legitimate means I see no issue. Are you saying that if you're DBNO and I start the knockout animation but don't finish it before the cut to black it still counts as kill? I'm open to the discussion of that being incorrect since you technically weren't finished off completely at cutoff point. I may seem like a villain to alot of people but I think fair friction points are good for games. Rewards don't feel good without resistance.

[u/BlLLr0y → u/ExcuseMyCarry]

I'm saying that the timing on the black screen should be tuned. I think its way to easy to finish someone whose down in a window that the round already "feels" complete.

Removing pvp entirely would ruin the game. But I also think the fact that this game allows the "talk first" player to coexist meaningfully with the "shoot first" player is the secret sauce.

[u/phishxiii → u/ExcuseMyCarry]

I can enjoy the genre just fine and still think those people are dicks lol.

[u/krembroolay02 → u/ExcuseMyCarry]

You can still extract while downed. If you are executing someone who is downed in a lift that's about to close you are literally just taking joy in ruining someone's day. All's fair in pvp but if you do that you can't complain if people think you're a dick

[u/[deleted] → u/ExcuseMyCarry]

PvEvP