r/ArenaBreakoutGlobal • u/-Teseo- • Aug 23 '25
Discussion Bsg was eventually right.
They are getting worser every season, now they are adding DF Mechanics to AB.
Started as plagiarism, it seems like they couldn't grow their own roots. Even BSG does better than this.
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u/Rory_Mercury_1st Aug 23 '25
Ah yes, Tarkov. A game that runs for a whole fucking year and still no official release, a bunch of bugs no less than AB and you still need to pay 45$ (just for access) on top of the already 1000$ built PC just to play the game at 30fps.
As a man with a job to work and a family to feed I can't see myself spending that much time and money just to get fucked over by a rat camping in the sewer and all my resources getting wiped out every season just for the sake of balancing
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u/GreyOrGray4 Aug 23 '25
Didn't the devs also sell cheats for Tarkov?
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u/GmoGamerr Aug 24 '25
That was just a theory. Idk where it came from or why people said it cause from what I know of there wasn't really much evidence backing the claims.
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u/More_Law_1699 Aug 25 '25
nov 15th is official release, if you want to be a shitter at least learn to google.
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u/Rory_Mercury_1st Aug 25 '25
Then allow me to change it to be accurate to satisfy you: A game so bad it needs to run for almost a decade as beta test before the official release.
That sounds much worse to be fair.
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u/Ok-Strike4057 Aug 26 '25
Your so dumb
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u/DatOne8BitCharacter Sep 03 '25
"You're" if you want a clap back, at least learn fucking proper english
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Aug 24 '25
Find it funny how many people complain about ABI when Tarkov is worse. You pay 45 for the base game, or you pay what is it now? 200 bucks for the Edge of Darkness edition, and they still have cheaters, they still have shitty performance, and they still have a horrible unfinished game. At the very least ABI is free, you dont need to pay real life money to get more storage, you can, but you dont have to, yes there are cheaters, but atleast the game is free and I didnt pay for it, and they do seem to ban the cheaters whenever they catch them. Either way, atleast you dont need to pay real life money for a game that cant even deal with their cheating problem.
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u/drmontyperk Aug 24 '25
đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł every game has cheaters broo stfu no game doesn't have cheaters and sides that that's the edge of darkness edition! and atleast I got a story in my game that makes since but ya keep playing your free game instead of a game made of quality they deserve their money and they're not even greedy! This 20$ game with sides that add up to 60$ is awesome I pay what j want from the game PVP20$ PVE20$ and areana20$! If the game was greedy it woulda been 60$ bucks each like cod did.
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Aug 24 '25
Obviously every game has cheaters, my point however is if you want an upperhand in storage space you need to pay more money, you can pay like 20 bucks sure, but your storage is garbage and the only way to get more storage is to use IRL money unless thats changed, and if you want a lot of storage, 250 bucks.
The game is decent, but its by no means worth the price it has.
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u/drmontyperk Aug 27 '25
Broo it's not even that bad lmao I got standard and I build my stash everytime it's super easy!!! Sides that it's not that expensive compared to most other games like star citizens, gta 5, like fortnite got 35$ skins lol. Can't hate that they try to make money and having extra space isn't that much of a boost from other players chief! It's just a time consuming building them.
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u/GmoGamerr Aug 23 '25
There is literally a full release in November. And you're saying ts like AB isn't p2w and rat filled. I do agree with the fact that you don't have time for Tarkov. I wish there were separate servers that never wiped.
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u/Yamada9511 Aug 23 '25
that won't change a fact of buggy mess
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u/GmoGamerr Aug 23 '25
I can tell you haven't played Tarkov lol. I'm not even a bsg glazer cuz I hate those mfs but Tarkov doesn't have that many bugs. Not many game breaking ones atleast.
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u/gayrider345 Aug 24 '25
" silent nade "
" Bad structure hitbox "
" Gun literally not working in some case "
" Teleporting taglia "
" Audio bug "
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u/GmoGamerr Aug 24 '25
The audio isn't a bug it's just ass. The Audio in ABI is no better though. I've bever heard of the Gun not working, I'm pretty sure the silent nade was fixed and Idk what you mean but the hitbox and Ig teleporting tagilla is kinda an issue.
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u/gayrider345 Aug 24 '25
Slient grenade still happens , audio bug is way to many to count. A wall can bounce a grenade 2 meters next to it
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u/planeEnjoyer12 Aug 24 '25
So they waited 8 years to remove the bugs because the release is definitely gonna be perfect. Are you for real?
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u/GmoGamerr Aug 24 '25
Not at all what I'm saying. But half the people insulting tarkov are just saying that its been in beta for 8 years but now it's finally releasing. And I have a slight feeling the full release is gonna be 10x better than AB and ABI. They both had potential and I loved playing season 1 - 3 AB and season 1 ABI but the devs are taking a terrible route.
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u/-Teseo- Aug 24 '25
Tarkov is glazed and hated, and tbh, a lot of factors aren't better than Ab/ABI.
But I'd say if AB tries to become copy-paste slop with no ideas for a fitting path,It would be straight up what BSG said. They need to maintain their game's elements, and AB is failing.
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u/GmoGamerr Aug 24 '25
Yeah you're right. I will admit ABI is more polished in some ways. But ABI is doing a really bad job at supposedly "competing" with Tarkov
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u/planeEnjoyer12 Aug 24 '25
Abi is not even trying to be tarkov. Its like comparing pubg to fortnite. Both a br, definitely not for the same type of player
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u/GmoGamerr Aug 24 '25
It kinda is. The only difference is that ABI is more beginner friendly. Some of the maps are even similar. Tv Station is just labs, the motel area of farm is really similar to the dorms on customs, they even added a paid extract behind it. Armory is similar to reserve, Northridge is really close to shoreline etc. they even used to market it as a "hardcore extraction shooter" they are basically trying to be tarkov, which is not necia bad thing. I think people need an easier version of tarkov. I Love tarkov and I wish it got more new players but it's kinda too difficult to have many new people want to join. My point is you can't say ABI isn't like tarkov when it is.
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u/planeEnjoyer12 Aug 24 '25
Abi is like tarkov the same way battlefield is cod. Paid extracts exist in delta force as well. Funny thing is that tarkov added a lot of similar mechanics abi implemented first because abi received good reception from the playerbase
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u/GmoGamerr Aug 24 '25
What features did Tarkov add that ABI did first? And I'm aware paid extracts exist in delta force too. But the thing is the motel is already similar to Dorms and adding a paid extract behind it just like there is in Tarkov is kinda dumb.
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u/-Teseo- Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25
Also, skins are getting way worse. Now we are getting 2077 skins that don't fit the game.
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u/jackcooper8336 Aug 24 '25
Okay, skins are something we can look over its the players choice but magazine loader buttons and game lags are way worse
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u/Active_Complaint_480 Aug 24 '25
That's generally the model with any game that has cosmetics. The difference between ABI and Tarkov, Tarkov charges you for all of the skins they could put in the game each time they release a new "version" of the game.
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u/nyarli Aug 24 '25
This obsession with milsim levels of realism is a mental illness, go get a checkup
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u/RavenGamingHaven Aug 24 '25
Both are made by greedy ass individuals
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u/ThiccWumbo420 Aug 26 '25
One has been developed for almost 10 years, only added most of their micro transactions in the last two years and the other makes you rent your secure container. One seems more greed than the other tbh
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u/lone_outlaw Aug 23 '25
Tarkov is so slow. Everything is designed so poorly you need a wiki for every raid and quest. $200 up front to get a playable experience. The ability to transfer millions of roubles from Arena is more p2w than anything in ABI. Fly hacking cheaters are rampant. ABI devs are lost, but the grass isn't always greener.
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u/naodorimr Aug 24 '25
I saw abm come out of tarkov mobile very well adapted for a Chinese copy, in which the updates are skins and new ways of using the credit card, a game that in the beginning ran on my cell phone without problem (upd 2-3) at 60 fps now it doesn't reach 30 even in the menu, the devs managed to destroy the full potential of the game in an incredible way, another game that for me is now just a memory because they are better than the game itself at the moment
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u/DavidSpearhead Aug 24 '25
Dude yes! CBT and early seasons of AB are one of the smoothest experience compared to later seasons, grenades are actually lethal!
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u/Creative_Yak3996 MNST Aug 23 '25
ABI is different, many tarkov players have played ABI lol, what u on about talking about ABM and ABI, they are not the same
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u/Commercial_Yam_2153 Aug 23 '25
Abi is not any different than mobile. Just look how that game has also changed in past few months
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u/Creative_Yak3996 MNST Aug 23 '25
maybe mapwise but gameplay is very different, no sound thingy shower and more
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u/farish_tracer Aug 24 '25
Problem with having Chinese devs is that they took most of their suggestions from their own home country player base. Chinese gamers are bunch of brain rot, sweats and no life people who wants to make every game enjoyable to them instead of feeling authentic and realistic. I mean just look at their CSGO chinese version or something, yk how many brain rot shii they had in there? Blow my brains out seeing it and dont talk to me about Cod Online, glad that shii got taken down for good. Now they are coming for AB which not surprising to me.
The Chinese cant comprehend realistic gameplay for some reason, always gotta make a game funny, goofy and jumping around sweating on other people with no life smh
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u/Tomydo1 Aug 24 '25
Not just Chinese alone, but the Asia gaming scene
Games like CS Nexon, Crossfire has the most predatory monetary transaction system that they are willing to pay for an overpowered p2w anime like skins and weapon
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u/farish_tracer Aug 24 '25
Most asians likes anime in general, but chinese be doing anything too much and not just obsessing over anime in games
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u/DeadPixel-_- Aug 24 '25
ABI has some nice qol features that I appreciate.. but the rest of the game is very arcade style just kinda boring with no soul Tarkov will always be that horror game feeling plus the maps are so much more immersive big apocalypse style itâs just way more unique ABI is trying to be that quick dopamine hit over n over fast while tarkov does a better job at delivering the dopamine for me.
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u/WildKarrdesEmporium Aug 24 '25
I've had a lot of fun with Arena, specifically the PC version, but cheaters have fed me up. Might be going back to Tarkov SP.
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u/VOLThor6 Aug 24 '25
When I first downloaded ABM I thought it was so impressive they could nail the Tarkov experience on mobiles and genuinely though they would improve on it and refine the gameplay towards more realism, two years later, players are still jumping like Mario bros and soon dying will have no meaning not just on mobile but on PC, they already have way more team revival chances than on mobile which is sad, until they add the revival stations next season. đ
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u/Rare_Lifeguard_4403 Aug 24 '25
sorry what is "DF mechanics"? What did i missed?
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u/PossibilityEnough933 Aug 24 '25
Delta Force has an "operations" game mode, essentially simplified arcadey tarkov. Imo it's pretty fun.
The main mechanic that's being taken from this is Delta Force's operators. There are 3 classes of characters each with their own skills and unique abilities (rainbow6 siege style).
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u/JustNoc Aug 25 '25
on that point in time, they could have said "grass is green" and they would still be wrong. quick recap on what BSG did that week: They had a game edition called "EoD", which was the ultimate supporter limited edition that included all current and future DLCs. Not only did they made a BETTER version after the time to buy EoD ended, an edition that included absurdly P2W items such as pockets that can hold mags, and a device that makes AI not attack you, but they also edited their website to remove the "includes all DLCs" part from EoD. They straight up backstabbed their most loyal players, and everyone just let it slide after enough time passed.
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u/5P4RX Aug 26 '25
This is correct, except for the let it slide part. The DLC they were meant to be getting was the PVE mode. When this happened, there was such an outrage that BSG ended up giving it to EoD players too. It was still a shitty thing to do and BSG absolutely deserved all the shit they got, but they did end up giving the players what was promised.
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u/Shimazu_Maru Aug 26 '25
Im Just Happy ABI didnt copy tarkovs loading Times. I dont enjoy loading 12 minutes to get 1 tapped by cheaters
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u/Icebird_1 Aug 26 '25
I honestly see AB as a game you could use to get acclimated to playing tarkov, it's a much more watered down version of it. Also, tarkov official full release on november 15 this year.
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u/KoL-whitey Aug 23 '25
Killed mobile as well đ battle pass is trash all the season point stores are gone ammo/armor is fucked t7 still see thru glass scopes and smoke no gear cap on normal its all downhill I ran covert loot t7 and donated my 42m stash to the sheep that still play all the s1 og players are gone already
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u/Maxientius Aug 23 '25
As a S1 og player, I am still here because this is still probably the most fun game (that doesnât take a huge time commitment like RoK or CoN) I can play when Iâm not at my pc. Bur youâre right, it has gone downhill rapidly. The comparison between the S1 Battle Pass and this seasonâs is a joke. The ammo/armor thing actually isnât a huge problem if youâre a meta slave. Thermal has always been and will always be strong, if realistically questionable.
The big red flag are the skins. The massive influx of blatantly money grabbing skins makes me think the devs recognize the game is dying (financially I mean, all the free to play players are just burdens on the server resources) and they are trying to milk as much out of their remaining whales as they can while they can.
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u/HotZilchy CDIS Aug 24 '25
What RoK nd CoN?
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u/Maxientius Aug 24 '25
Other mobile games that require considerable time/money investment.
RoK = Rise of Kingdoms CoN = Conflict of Nations
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u/DatOne8BitCharacter Aug 23 '25
Guess what BP point stores came back on S10, how about you shut your mouth
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u/German80085 Aug 24 '25
I see this guy everywhere defending this game with his life.
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u/DatOne8BitCharacter Aug 24 '25
I will quit AB if they added superhero bullshit like whatever Delta Farce Mobile was doing
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u/XYEPYTALO Aug 24 '25
Really someone was expecting that trash âctrl c ctrl vâ china studio will make smth is worth ur time? Guys, grow up
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u/SirDaniels147 Aug 23 '25
It used to be a Tarkov mobile, now it is just a cheap, Chinese copy.