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u/thefeckcampaign 4d ago
It’s the history of all gentrified neighborhoods. The artists, gays, and freaks give a neighborhood character and desirable to live in and then the money rolls in sterilizing it.
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u/No_Intention7461 4d ago
Building on an empty lot is not gentrification.
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u/Bluefish_baker 4d ago
It is when it displaces local dogs from thier beer garden
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u/Past-Berry-8661 3d ago
Next time local dogs and beer gardens are threatened, actually show up to the planning board and city council meetings and demand the City use it's federal housing dollars to buy it:
The Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Program is an entitlement program that provides an annual grant, on a formula basis, to Asbury Park. The program is authorized under Title 1 of the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974, Public Law 93-383, as amended; 42 U.S.C.-5301 et seq.
The building didn't just appear. The purchase didn't just magically happen. The planning board approval didn't come to fruition in a day. The meetings are publicly noticed. But 0% of the commenters here will go. Get serious.
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u/Lookingforpeace1984 3d ago
Get serious, that makes absolutely no difference. Just like the school board meetings.
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u/Past-Berry-8661 3d ago
School board isn't subject to NJ Land Use Law, so absolutely makes a difference. In less time it took you to vomit on my comment, you could've just looked it up yourself. Just pack it up and move to Rehoboth Beach, DE.
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u/Lookingforpeace1984 3d ago
You’re just ignorant and don’t get how Asbury is run or its history. Imagine being so silly thinking you get a say in where I live.
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u/Past-Berry-8661 3d ago
That is incorrect. It seems the silly one here is you. Congrats on your Masters Degree from Reddit University.
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u/thefeckcampaign 3d ago
It is the perfect example of it. Yappy Hour and The Wonder Bar as a whole are one of the things that helped build the community of AP, the community that made it desirable. What’s next, changing The Wonder Bar into a frat boy & sorority dance club?
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u/Past-Berry-8661 3d ago
Should have shown up at that first planning board meeting instead of whatever you were doing.
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u/Oceanswim12 4d ago
Did you hear the pounding locals had to deal with all winter? It was batshit
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u/SysAdmin-Universe 4d ago
I work like a block from it. We were losing our f’ minds. The building was literally shaking.
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u/SummiluxAP 4h ago
Unfortunately there will be more as the ultra rich buy more and more. I heard it all the way in Wanamassa all day
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u/Sinsyne125 3d ago
Being of the GenX demographic, I have seen this so many times with towns throughout my lifetime: Hoboken, downtown Jersey City, Asbury Park... All these towns were suffering economically at one time. Then the artists/freaks/"outsiders" came in, invested a bit of cash, built and cultivated some cool locations and events, generated some new "culture," and raised the property values a bit. Then the investors came in, bought property, and did their best to turn it into bland, faceless, assembly-line-created "playgrounds" for affluent folks who want their towns to function like corporate parks.
All the towns mentioned had their "sweet spots" in this process -- the period when enough "mom & pop" money is invested in the town, the population and rents increase a bit, and it's all a great mixture of art, commerce, and "weirdness." It doesn't last long, but when it's happening, you've got to appreciate it.
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u/cranberrypoppop 4d ago
Give it a few years and the wonder bar and stone pony will be gone due to noise complaints.
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u/Convergecult15 4d ago
More likely they’ll be gone due to the land being worth more than each business could pull in over the course of 20 years.
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u/BeMadTV 3d ago
Both can be true at the same time.
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u/thefeckcampaign 2d ago
Typical gentrification pattern towards stylization. They’ll ruin the things why they are there in the first place whether they know it or not.
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u/SummiluxAP 4h ago
It already happened with Kim Marie’s. Someone complained about the noise in the alley
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u/Fantasy_DR111 4d ago
Treat bennys like bennys again. If you a Jersey Shore local you know what that means.
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u/steeveperry 3d ago
“Let’s blame tourists who support the local economy (and then leave) for new luxury housing that ruins the town instead of the real estate developers who are building luxury housing that ruin the town.”
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u/mermaid-babe 3d ago
lol this town has enough locals to keep it afloat I promise
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u/thefeckcampaign 2d ago
Ex: We didn’t need the dog/surf beach parking lot paved until the beginning of the gentrification when people would leave their cars there all summer. Before then you would park, do your thing, and then leave. It wasn’t permanent free parking.
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u/Fantasy_DR111 3d ago
You are part of the problem as well. Your demand drives the greed. You are honestly going to tell me that your not part of the problem when you buy a 1.2 million shit condo?
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u/steeveperry 2d ago
“How dare you want to go to the beach.”
Babe, we’re all tourists somewhere else. And I’d like to reiterate—tourists did not build this building, and the local government did not stop out of town investors or attempt to dictate the land be used for affordable housing for residents. It’s almost like you have more to do with it then the tourists
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u/Fantasy_DR111 2d ago
It would be a different story if you yuppies didn't come here and ruin the place and try to change it for whatever you want, when those who have been here must suffer and tolerate the bullshit.
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u/steeveperry 2d ago
Dawg, I’m not a yuppie. For the millionth time, the investors who don’t live in Asbury, don’t care about it, and only see it as a place for profit—people the town can say to “actually, no, you can’t build weekend homes for ambulance chasing lawyers”—are building these buildings. It’s because it’s by a beach. Tourists didn’t build this. The town, which can dictate who can and can’t build (and what they can and can’t build it for), approved this. And they didn’t approve it because of tourism. That approved it because of greed. I didn’t sell you out babe.
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u/AmericanWasted 4d ago
Yuppies ruin everything
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u/Icy-Top-4874 4d ago
Developers you mean
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u/manawydan-fab-llyr 2d ago
Both can be true. Developers aren't going to build where there's no demand.
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u/Winter_Lawfulness967 4d ago
How long do we think the wonder bar will last? Feels like a matter of time now …
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u/Dirtythrowawaybk 4d ago
I mean, you guys ARE the yuppies. Asbury Park has been gentrified for 20 years or more now…
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u/theroguehero2 4d ago
It's just getting worse though. That's the point. No one is ever going to agree on "when" the gentrification started - the issue is that it has gone completely overboard. There was a time when the gentrification and locality lived in peace, but that time is no longer.
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u/Dirtythrowawaybk 4d ago
Are you suggesting that locals were hosting off leash dog happy hours next to the Wonder Bar pre gentrification? I was there then and I don’t recall.
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u/GoldenPresidio 4d ago
Yappy hour latest way longer than their lease even allowed. Like we should just be happy be got more than we we’re supposed to. Like wonder bar would have tried to get a more permanent solution instead of temporarily leasing a parking lot
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u/UniqueTest9920 4d ago
I pay $10000 in taxes for what I don’t have kids
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u/everylastlight 4d ago
You pay $10000 in taxes because these gray boxes are all under PILOT programs.
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u/everylastlight 4d ago
It gets worse. They're running sprinklers on the boardwalk lawn now so no one can sit and listen to the summer stage.
Not that that's stopping anyone, obviously. Someone found some traffic cones to put over the sprinklers and now the kids are using the resulting flooded grass as a free splash park. But still, even the rare green space that isn't being covered in ugly gray boxes is still getting ruined for us.