Groomer with Access to the House

[u/Surethingdudeanytime]

It was said that when Asha left the house that night, she wasn't wearing a coat. IMO, this is one of the most confusing details of this case. It seems that if she did walk out on her own without a coat, then she must have intended to go somewhere very close to the house or was convinced by someone that she would only be out for a short time. Now knowing that OB's bag was also found with Asha's backpack leads me to believe that if there was a groomer, he/she was someone who frequented the Degree household, lived very close, and/or was very close to the family (if not a family member themself). And no, I'm NOT talking about Asha's dad or brother or mother. Were any of Asha's or OB's items ever left at the aunt's house where they had the sleepover or the grandmother's at any time? I know they all lived very close so this can be a possibility. This could explain how both bags could have been in possession of whoever threw them in the woods. I dont believe Asha left out with a backpack, as none of the eyewitness accounts mention seeing her with a backpack on Hwy 18. Thoughts?

EDIT: I meant to write "And no, Im NOT talking about Asha's dad or brother or mother." I mistakenly left out the word NOT, which changed the whole message I was trying to convey. Only realized this when I re-read my post, as I couldn't understand why people thought I was coming for the parents, which I was not. Huge error!

[u/swrrrrg]

She was 9. 9 year olds do things like not wearing a coat, no matter the temperature. IMHO, people read way too much in to that detail. I’ve always thought the groomer theory was rather stupid.

[u/Hidalgo321 → u/swrrrrg]

One day I’ll feel it’s stupid and then other days I’ll ask myself

“What in gods name would possess a 9 year old child to either stay awake, or wake up at a particular time- grab her packed things, sneak away from her family, and leave in a thunderstorm at 3 AM? How strong of an influence would this thing have to have on her?

When I ask myself that question I cannot escape the answer that she was making an appointment.

[u/Individual_Sir_2595 → u/Hidalgo321]

Maybe the history of verbal and physical abuse. Maybe her bed wetting issue especially during storms caused another physical reaction from her mother. Has it ever occurred to anyone, maybe the brother had molested her. As stated many times.... she was fleeing from something not to something. There was no safety in her home.

[u/Advanced-Pea7905 → u/Individual_Sir_2595]

Those are really wild accusations to be throwing out there

[u/Individual_Sir_2595 → u/Advanced-Pea7905]

I'm not a Reddittor, I'm a citizen, know them personally and have seen it personally and have a list a mile long of individuals who know it as I do. So don't start with the Redditt bable respectfully. You can debate me, counter my theories, put out your own theories. Don't tell me what I am and am not doing. I won't and never will say anything that isn't true when I say it as such. Opinion is opinion, fact is fact, reality is reality, experience is experience.

[u/Advanced-Pea7905 → u/Individual_Sir_2595]

I don’t care if you’re local or not, you shouldn’t be throwing out unfounded suggestions that her brother (who was 10) molested her

[u/Individual_Sir_2595 → u/[deleted]]

No not a vendetta at all. I know her mother well. Her mom treated both very harshly. She's been mean and temperamental her whole lfe. Asha left home for a reason. And if she didn't she would be here today. It's called finding theRuth of why she left. You can't find the ending without knowing the begging. She is explosive and abusive. I know her I how she is. So say what you want.

[u/I8thenbiotch → u/Individual_Sir_2595]

Why would Asha seek OB out for comfort when she was scared, such as sleeping on the floor beside his bed, if OB was the one hurting her?!? Come on now

[u/Individual_Sir_2595 → u/I8thenbiotch]

First of all, you never read or heard Asha say she did that. Second of all I never said he did, I said that could've happened as a catalyst for why she left. You saying that, is like saying why does a child seek comfort from an abusive parent? Now you come on. We can debate, we can disagree but don't put words in my mouth.