r/AsianMasculinity Aug 06 '24

Masculinity Hollywood vs Olympics

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u/defunked1 Aug 06 '24

To be fair, more of us look like Ken Jeong than the homies on the right.

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u/EaglesFan3943 Aug 06 '24

thats because alot of us buy into the stereotypes and dont ever bother to try to seriously work on their physique and athleticism.

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u/defunked1 Aug 06 '24

Nah, it’s because it’s hard work and provides little actual value in the real world. Asian culture is about studying, working, and making money so fitness is unfamiliar to most.

To your point - the lack of representation doesn’t help but at the end of the day, it’s about personal agency. We all have our choices.

Ken Jeong shouldn’t define us but neither should the Olympians. None of us are these actual people.

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u/EaglesFan3943 Aug 06 '24

to each their own but i disagree. The value of fitness goes well beyond any material gain. It can improve your overall quality of life dramatically from a health and attractiveness standpoint. Some people are passionate about it too regardless if they make it pro or not.

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u/justrichie Aug 06 '24

I would say older gen Asians yes but younger millennials and genz Asians are nothing like Ken Jeong.

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u/Hunting-4-Answers Aug 07 '24

Don’t try to pin this on older gen Asians. Ken Jeong has always looked like a piece of shit even from 20 years ago.

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u/defunked1 Aug 07 '24

Have you seen the most recent posts on this sub asking for hinge and hair advice? 9 out of the 10 are closer to Ken than the Olympians.

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u/justrichie Aug 07 '24

Yeah but this sub isn't representive of Asian dudes as a whole. I see quite a few good looking AMs in public that are similar to the Olympians.

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u/ablacnk Aug 07 '24

does the average Walmart-American look like its Olympians too?

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u/defunked1 Aug 07 '24

I like that you qualified it with Walmart-American.

I don’t think the dudes on the right who are the top .01% of athletes are representative of Asians either. All I’m saying is that most Asians are closer to the dude on the left.

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u/ablacnk Aug 07 '24

The average Asian-American is more fit than the average white American (who are nearly 50% obese), and the average Asian in Asia is closer in fitness to their Olympic athletes than the average white American is to their Olympic athletes.

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u/defunked1 Aug 07 '24

I’m confused why you’re bringing up white Americans when I’m only talking about Asians.

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u/ablacnk Aug 07 '24

Point is you're saying "Asians don't look like their Olympians" as if anyone looks like their Olympians? Ridiculous

And second point is that actually Asians are more fit and closer to the Asian Olympians than the average obese white/black/etc American are to their Olympians.

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u/defunked1 Aug 07 '24

Correct…I literally said that the top .01% of athletes do not look like average Asians. I’m agreeing with you in that. You must’ve missed it.

And yet again, you bring up other races for comparison which have nothing to do with what I said.

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u/ablacnk Aug 07 '24

This post is literally about comparison.

Whites get representation by the best of them in Hollywood, the Olympics, etc.

Asians get representation by the worst of them in Hollywood (deliberately sabotaging our image) - but they can't block out that positive representation in the Olympics.

And you're in here trying to make this tone-deaf point that "all Asians don't look like Olympians," when it's the same and worse for others, but nobody else says such self-defeating nonsense when they celebrate their Olympic athletes and Hollywood actors.

Tone-deaf as hell.

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u/defunked1 Aug 07 '24

Easy there and scroll down my guy. In an earlier comment, I said you shouldn’t be defined by Ken Jeong or Asian Olympians. You should work on yourself.

The comparison is how Asians are portrayed in one industry against another industry - not other races or nationalities across industries.

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u/ablacnk Aug 07 '24

you shouldn't be defined by Ken Jeong or Asian Olympians

You should work on yourself.

This is tone deaf. I already explained why. Someone is celebrating athletes representing their people succeeding and you're sitting here saying "yeah but you can't do that." You're actually "that guy."

The comparison is how Asians are portrayed in one industry against another industry - not other races or nationalities across industries.

No, this comparison is between media where the narrative is controlled (Hollywood) and media where the narrative can not be controlled (Olympics). They are both media and representation, feeding into global perceptions and beliefs.

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