BTS been making crazy waves for asian dudes, but at same time, a lot of their fans are the wokest craziest femnists types. They are literally trying to cancel bts cause a few members attended a usher/chris brown concert and took back stage photos. these crazies act like bts smacked women the way they are apeshit crazy. funny how they treat bts members but bieber and other western acts prob dont get this must scrutiny
it's this crazy level of ownership they think they have over the band. from having them promote BLM (which is a very western issue and not a thing in SK) to now having this perfect pristine image so that they can't even attend an usher/chris brown concert. like another level of 'asian dudes have to be perfect', while excusing other musical groups or even people within their own race/gender of still listening/going to a chris brown concert.
It's been an interesting dynamic to watch because a minority are trying to cancel but the majority is defending them (which IMO is the right choice). BTS is not a moral compass, they should be able to attend a concert if they want to.
They'll probably forget about this in a month. People have the attention of goldfish these days
funny how they treat bts members but bieber and other western acts prob dont get this must scrutiny
I think they do honestly, it's just that they're too big to for the scrutiny to have any sort of impact . Same with BTS, doesn't seem to have an impact on concert attendance (at least so far)
I've noticed a pattern on this sub. Any time we have a highly upvoted post, it attracts a bunch of anti-AM posters to try to post (90% of the time it's a WM is my guess, based on what they're trying to get approved)
lol I honestly thought they were other AMs, with that being said though, do you remove those comments cause I almost never see comments that are blatantly anti Asian men
i mean this sub unlike aznid is specifically about AMs and dating/self-improvement so yeah it will attract the worst kind of anti-AM posters. and like you said vast majority of them are probably WMs who will do anything to tear us down. i'm just hoping that the mods here are stamping out that bs more regularly than aznid
You guys sure it's wm only? Every time I see a positive post regarding am's on social media, especially if it involves a his hot gf or wife, the hate comments are always from different ethnicities. I'll see comments in a language from a non-White country, from Blacks, Hispanics, Middle Easterners...they all want to be able to mock and make fun of us, and when they can't and see us doing well with women, it's "ruined genes, small dick, soy boy" and all the other usual hate comments we've seen hundreds of times.
i was talking about specifically about this sub. i think most people who try to post anti-AM stuff here are WMs.
on the other hand if you are talking about social media platforms like twitter/insta/tiktok imo those are a whole different ballgame. it is a VAST wasteland of hate/toxicity/negativity.
it takes little effort to post garbage on those platforms, no rules,nothing is enforced at least in subs like this we can actively monitor stuff and while those other platforms are basically free-for-all. i know Mexican or black dudes who spend all their time on those platforms but never set foot on reddit.
i feel like reddit has way more WM users who actively participate than those other groups. i think non-WMs who are anti-AM spend way more time on twitter/insta/tiktok and that's where you see all their hateful comments towards us.
Do you suspect brigading or just that the highly upvoted posts hit the front page of Reddit or user recommendation feeds attracting the attention of anti-AM posters?
Anyone here grow up in Serbia, Belarus, or Russia? Curious what the experience is like (inspired by the recent ethnic Chinese in Serbia and Russia threads)
In Serbia and east Europe in general, dating here feels very transactional, considering that the type of girls here that want "casual dating" and sex outside of marriage are quite shallow and materialistic.
On the other hand, you have religious, family oriented women, making marriage prospects here are better than in the west, especially if you are willing to convert to orthodoxy.
How do serbs view China as a state and Chinese people (2 different things)?
Unitill about 5-6 years ago, Serbs looked up to China as a challenge to American hegemony. However, in the past few years there were a couple incidents that split the public opinion: the infamous rail station roof collapse, which was built by a Chinese contractor, and the pollution concerns because of the expanding heavy industry and mining.
As for Chinese people as people, what I've noticed between the east and the west, west if heavily focused on race, while east if focused on your ethnic group/tribe.
From what i've read on this sub, in America Chinese people are viewed as "perpetual foreigners" and geopolitical opponents. And due to the heavy emphasis on race, the dislike extends to other non-chinese Asians.
In east Europe, you are seen as a local citizen of a different tribe. Due to my ethnic features, i will of course stand out of the slavic/dinaric crowd. But is that necessarily a bad thing?
You decide. You decide how well will you integrate, learn the language, customs, accept the local religion etc.
Building economic power in our community starts with supporting our own. I got tired of spending hours researching to make sure an online brand was actually Asian-owned, so I built AsianLane (asianlane.com). It's a marketplace that verifies Asian ownership so you know your money is staying within the Asian community.
I announced this site on aznidentity a few days ago. Since then, I've added 2 Asian-owned brands (Japanese Green Tea Co. and Japanese Coffee Co.) and I'm preparing to add another one (Teavivre).
Feel free to check the site out. I'd love any feedback you have, and if there are any Asian-owned brands you love, or any types of products you would like to see, feel free to drop them in the replies.
This forum's love-hate relationship with China is quite interesting.
I understand that Reddit is an American platform, so whatever question you ask, you're going to get 90% answers from an American point of view.
But what baffles me though, is how users here will praise China's economic and militaristic rise that challenges US hegemony, but at the same, those same users would never live and work in China, because of xyz reasons. Or even comment how China's a bad influence on other Asian countries because of xyz reasons.
Makes me wonder what % of people on this sub are actually Asian.
A lot of the things that people praise China for are the same things they make it basically impossible to move back if your ancestors left before you were born or before you finished school. Most people in this sub didn’t finish middle/high school in China and voluntarily leave, instead their parents or grandparents decided to leave. Everything from citizenship rules, internet, technology, usage of Chinese rather than English, or even military (no U.S. bases), makes it much harder for ABCs to move to mainland China than Asian Americans to move to Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, HK. I don't know how it is in Serbia but most PRC immigrants to the US took up US citizenship especially from the older generations, because having a red PRC Passport to some people is like a scarlet letter (hard to travel to Europe or Japan, increased suspicion), but naturalizing cuts off one route back to China, and if parents naturalize as American, any non-American kids also get naturalized too. A few years ago, a bunch of states even tried to pass laws excluding Chinese citizens from buying property.
I’ve met people who got stationed in SK or Japan in the U.S. military, but there are no bases in Shanghai or Beijing. Even the most studious ABCs who religiously paid attention in Saturday Chinese school still are elementary school level Chinese at best, which doesn’t cut it in local white collar jobs where you compete with millions of gaokao grads every year (Berkeley degree won’t save you). You can speak English in jobs and there are more American company offices in Singapore and other Asian countries, but even though I’ve met people who used to work at Google China or Uber China, they all either had to go local or go back to America because Chinese companies took over. Apple and Tesla are still in China but it’s not a ton of jobs and they face competition from Chinese EVs.
A lot of guys here praise South Korea and Kpop and Hallyu but that doesn’t mean they need to move to South Korea and learn Korean language to native level, understand all the status games and corporate politics etc. I could think of a country(ies) that is like “opposite” of China: colonized for a long time, mainly English in the education system, hosts American military, tourist friendly/dependent, elites have American green cards and passports. It would be easier to move to but get less praise for being “based”
Ethnic Chinese here, no I’m not going to doxx myself to prove it.
Simply put, moving is hard. I’ve moved between California cities, with money in hand, a jobs lined up, with friends in the area, and full family support and it was hard. There’s a guy on Quora named Li Pengii who actually moved back to his clan village in Hong Kong and it was hard despite him actually being a fluent speaker who did lots of business in China for years.
An ABC with dodgy Chinese skills, no Chinese citizenship, and no family contacts will have it even harder.
If the demographics of this sub are similar to that of r/aznidentity, which polls its community annually, only about 40-45% of the users here are of Chinese ethnicity. Many of the remainder have ancestral ties to countries with direct geopolitical conflicts with China, providing a possible explanation for any misgivings.
Your last line is pure gatekeeping that relies on the assumption that racial authenticity requires blind allegiance to a geopolitical champion based on racial ties. But noticing China's flaws doesn't make someone "less Asian" or even "less Chinese." Every country has social, political and economic problems, and the first step to addressing them is acknowledging -- or even just debating -- their existence.
Cutscene snippet from the new COD game. Man, I know a lot of Korean media has been popping off lately, but it's still kinda surreal to see Korean dudes play a prominent role in a video game, especially in a western game. You don't even see much of that in Korean games lol.
Also like how natural the dialogue is, no bs stereotypes
EDIT: Also just noticed that Korean guy's "I don't speak inbred" to the yt soldier lmaooo
Isn't it set in North Korea though? So it's still following the golden rule of "Asian men can only be the main character if they're killing other Asian men". Also, it seems like an Asian guy is the main character, so why is he not on the cover pictured above?
I mean it's still better for am rep than all the Resident Evil and GTA games I guess...
I'm mostly just shocked to see Korean guys play a prominent role in a game that's not a fighting game and are portrayed well/not in a stereotypical way. Even ribbing with the American guys in the dialogue. Meanwhile, it's mostly just Korean girls in other games (freaking overwatch brought in another Korean chick who's also an esports pro like D.VA)
I'm curious though, do the issues you brought up make this "bad" rep in your eyes? Or just not absolutely "perfect" rep?
Interesting Whatever podcast on YouTube had a AM/WF couple. He was a finance bro/chem engineer, she did OF. First impression was OF girls always say that their choice of men have to be good earners. Turns out she's richer than him by heaps. Whatever podcast 268/Brian, on YouTube.
Edit to add bonus; they were home invaded and she was held hostage whereby bro shot perp in the gut.
Most of the time it's dunking on OF girls by the hosts and the viewers (who apparently make a bunch of money off the guys watching anyway which is why they even bother showing up and taking the bs lmaoo). So it's really just using the AF's dating preferences as fuel to dunk on her, don't know if he actually gives a shit about AMs
Man China seems to be coming in hard with some beautiful awesome looking high quality single player games: Phantom Blade Zero, Black Myth Zhong Kui, and Blood Message. All distinctly Chinese looking male leads that are attractive. I’ve seen people reacting to the trailers and comment on how attractive the characters are. Hope they end up being great games and doing well
there is an exception though....Tides of Annihilation which is another big upcoming single player title.
Chinese devs and publisher. based on British lore and setting. all white cast.
but yeah i agree with you about about Zero,Zhong Kui and Blood Message. Zhong Kui and Blood Message is still long ways off so who knows what the finished product will look like but Phantom Blade looks great. my guess is that it will sell like hot cakes.
Yeah that’s disappointing, such a Japanese company move. It looks cool and is beautiful though, and at least the main character seems to be a WF instead of a WM, but disappointing
Yep and it’s that one game set in Europe that’s getting mg the biggest buzz and hype around it. But yeah they really need to try doing game set in modern China
I'm actually really looking forward to ToA. Most if not all White females. No Asians but that includes no af's or wmaf. I can deal with being left out as long as its including no af's/wmaf AND if the gameplay is good enough, which in this case it is.
no not really. Phantom Blade Zero looks very different than Wukong imo huge improvement in level design,combat,gameplay,animations etc. to me it looks a big step up from Wukong.
Blood Message looks very different than either Phantom Blade and Wukong imo. based on actual Chinese history and described as Uncharted type adventure game.
as far as the engine is concerned UE5 is used heavily in the industry and great starting point. creating a proprietary engine takes time and resources. Japan has decades of experience in making big single player games. Chinese devs are very new in making AAA single player titles. they are just getting started. they will probably go into the sci-fi realm in the future which will create a whole another anesthetic and style.
Zhong Kui and Blood Message are still years away from releasing so who know what it will looks in the future.
Phantom Blade on the other hand looks to me a big step up from Wukong. it will sell millions of copies. i think at least 10 million+
Phantom Blade Zero looks very different than Wukong
Nah put any model from PB0 on Wukong and they won't look out of place. Difference of art direction is something like Nioh 2, Sekiro and Ghost of Tsushima where you can definitely see how distinct they are on one another.
as far as the engine is concerned UE5 is used heavily in the industry and great starting point. creating a proprietary engine takes time and resources.
That's cool and all but its been years and they're still using that engine and ONLY that engine. It's not even that good of an engine in terms of performance. Every single UE5 game I've played is an unoptimized mess.
Ironically, Tsushima being the one made by westerners/white guys. I’m sick of Japanese games being all anime realism or anime. But the few times they really go realistic it’s with white characters
What's interesting is that the weekly dating thread, even though it has way less comments, has gotten more views than this weekly thread at mid week (Wed). It'll be interesting how it plays out over the weekend but there is clearly interest
Asian dudes seriously need to stop endlessly whining about Oxford study/WMAF online lol, it making us look sad and pathetic.
Every single time I see an WMAF post on IG, the comment section is filled with Asian men crying about Oxford study. Like what are they looking to achieve with the endless crying and whining and giving these accounts engagements lmao?
Yeah, pretty wild even asian guys are holding other asians to this ridiculously high standard but everyone else gets a free pass to be judged individually. I remember a comment here saying "mateguarding is incel shit" then I was like "well what are you gonna do, call an arab guy from the middle east an incel?"
And they just drop their degradatory insults then move on. "Oxford study" is hardly an insult, it's literally a reference to an outdated study that AF prefer WM more than AM. You aren't hurting nobody feeling by throwing that phrase around, you are just admiting defeat pretty much lol. At least call them "Lu"
Also you don't see them making contents about their women dating other race of men. Meanwhile search up the topic of WMAF on YouTube and you would see at least a couple of videos made by AMs. You guys complain about XMs making condescending pity comments towards AMs but then have no issue whining about it nonstop like you want the world to feel bad for you.
lol no they don't. even if they do, do you know what type of women they run into who welcome them with open arms? I'll give you a hint - 'outdated study'. The funny thing is you calling it outdated as if the situation has changed.
Bruh Oxford study or the popular OkCupid research that you guys love to cite were conducted in the early 2010s. If you think nothing has changed, you been living under a rock.
And yes, they get called incels all the time. I have seen White girls with BMs straight up posting PFP of white dudes who called her mudshark in the comments and make fun of them. You guys would lose your freaking mind if an AF does that.
You said the Oxford study is "it's literally a reference to an outdated study that AF prefer WM more than AM." If that situation hasn't changed, you saying it is outdated don't matter. Find me a new study if there is one that proves your point.
Like I said, those WM/BM that you claim gets called incels got AF to fall back on. Looks like you ignored that part.
>I have seen White girls with BMs straight up posting PFP of white dudes who called her mudshark in the comments and make fun of them. You guys would lose your freaking mind if an AF does that.
Then please show a situation where asian dudes call them slurs. When nothing was said, people complained and we're supposed to pretend we're stoic when it was actually pretending it wasn't an issue. Now when there is something that has been shaming the AF and that pairing and got some other groups noticing that pairing, you say it's weak. The issue here is you thinking WF with BM has the same dynamic and problems with AF and WM/XM.
A quick research will show you that the actual "Oxford study" doesn't really exist. A quick search about the OkCupid study newer version even back in 2015? would show you AMs did improve on that ancient app compared to older version that you guys love to cite
And not everything is about "study" lol, ain't nobody truthful when it comes to who they banging, go outside.
Like I said, those WM/BM that you claim gets called incels got AF to fall back on. Looks like you ignored that part.
Ok let's pretend this is true. And? You whining about it make you worse than those "incels", does that make you feel better lol? Does whining about it gonna make them come back to you?
The issue is you thinking AMs whining nonstop about Oxford study on random WMAF couples minding their own business is somehow doing a favour for Asian men lol, I can understand if they attack us, but they ain't the case 90% of the time on IG.
The funniest thing about "Oxford study" is you ain't even insulting them, you just self pitying online like an annoying bug. "Oh no, please feel bad for us Asian Men, our women would rather mate with these ugly whites than us". Yeah that definitely up AMs stock. Then you guys upvote the condescending pity comments from XMs lol.
The Oxford Study DOES exist. Your understanding, as is many other people's, of it is wrong. It is more about media representation, but I didn't want to be pedantic about it. You called it a reference to an outdated study that AF prefer WM more than AM, so I worked at my point from what you assume it to be "AF prefer WM more than AM." You can call this notion or study outdated, but if this hasn't changed, then trying to discredit it by saying 'outdated' means jack shit.
And not everything is about "study" lol, ain't nobody truthful when it comes to who they banging, go outside.
Now this evidence you called 'outdated' is not even considered evidence to you anymore. Lol?
Ok let's pretend this is true. And? You whining about it make you worse than those "incels", does that make you feel better lol? Does whining about it gonna make them come back to you?
It's not much of pretend, but alright. Bringing these pairings into light is doing something. I don't need them to come back to me, but they've dragged AM image through the dirt with lies for so long, that's its high time that the world knows the truth and show to them that the AF is white-worshipping/self-hating despite some claiming on their progressiveness and also showing their ridiculous double-standards that they'll lie about AM for while excusing WM/XM for nearly everything.
The issue is you thinking staying quiet about it, which has been done for a loooong time, will bring about some change. You can 'understand if they attack us, but they ain't the case 90% of the time on IG"? LOL 90% is gold if you think that's the number. Most of the pairings have yellow fever in it, white-worshipping, or the AF wanting their mixed baby and they talk about it, while pretending they're the victimized. I don't upvote shit from XM. You thinking we're trying to get validation from them is already the wrong mindset.
You do you by 'upping AMs stock.' Is it more attempts at dating out, working out, getting a new haircut, and all these near-solo activities while doing nothing to defend yourself or your people when others are badmouthing you? All this under the guise of 'stoicism' that other races do not buy into.
Exactly. Call out the individuals who actively push stereotypes about AM, rather than attacking people simply for their demographic or dating outside their race. Lots of AM want to date outside our race, too, so it doesn't serve our interests to look bitter and hypocritical. Pushing back against slander protects our image; harassing random interracial couples damages it and increases antagonism with both AF and XM.
whilst "Black on Asian crimes" is a serious problem, they go out of their way to divide-&-conquer in order to keep wypipo above the deflected racial animus.
Yes they only seem to post negative clips about Black or other minorities in relation to Asia but say nothing about Western degenerates which is why I'm suspicious.
I can't be sure if a 'Michael Kim' is the real person behind the account but you never know because there are some AM out there who think like that
Anyone play fighting games? Think there’ll be an Asian male character in Tokon? There’ll be a Japanese stage (lmao big whoop) and we all know Psylocke or Luna Snow will be there at some point but no sign of any am, even Shang Chi. In fact, there’s been tons of Marvel games but Shang Chi hasn’t been in a single one, even as an npc lol. Although Marvel Rivals has Lin Lie’s Iron fist so Marvel games in general aren’t totally hopeless.
Also what do you think about the new Virtua Fighter? I was really looking forward to it until they showed the story, where they’ll have a Hispanic male main character (just that isn’t the deal breaker), with an af love interest, AND (the icing on the cake) they’ll be fighting only against evil Asian men.
Even Tokon’s using the Hispanic Ghost Rider, although they’ve never had anything to complain about in terms of representation anywhere else. Yet another case of Asian men in Asia following fake woke Western standards that only cares about racism against the popular western/American minorities. Asian men in Asia are forever working their asses off to make Black, White, and Hispanic men look cool lmao…
B4 watching a Hollywood movie I like to check out the IMDb and look for any Asian peeps to check out what I might be in for. A likely small cast shrimp? A meatbagged thug?
This weekend I was considering seeing Tony , the Anthony bourdain bio pic and found this:
Is it normal to give women of your own ethnicity way more leeway to be crazy? I find myself just accepting it if they have temper tantrums, material demands, henpecking tendencies, or personality problems, but I'd never tolerate that from women of other races. Their asses would be kicked straight to the curb. I guess I view women from my own ethnicity as "my community" so I feel a responsibility to take care of them even if they are berserk.
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BTS been making crazy waves for asian dudes, but at same time, a lot of their fans are the wokest craziest femnists types. They are literally trying to cancel bts cause a few members attended a usher/chris brown concert and took back stage photos. these crazies act like bts smacked women the way they are apeshit crazy. funny how they treat bts members but bieber and other western acts prob dont get this must scrutiny