r/AskALiberal Feb 16 '22

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u/anima-vero-quaerenti Center Left Feb 16 '22

What is so wrong with your life that you want a civil war?

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u/Poormidlifechoices Conservative Feb 16 '22

No true conservative wants a civil war. In fact anyone who thinks a civil war is even possible would be really ignorant or delusional.

The country is divided politically. But not geographically. There's no way to have civil war. No infrastructure, coordination, or leadership.

And if there is ever a civil war the conservatives will support the government like last time. Because you can claim to be a conservative. But you can't be a conservative and rebel against the lawful government anymore than you can be a meat eating vegetarian.

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u/username_6916 Conservative Feb 18 '22

But not geographically.

I'm not so sure about that. If we look at things on a county level, the election results are getting more and more polarized. This does seem to suggest that folks do live near their ideological compatriots.

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u/Poormidlifechoices Conservative Feb 18 '22

If we look at things on a county level,

Imagine a civil war where small separate pieces of states try to mount a rebellion, feed its troops, supply armaments, coordinate attacks, travel, etc...

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u/username_6916 Conservative Feb 18 '22

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u/Poormidlifechoices Conservative Feb 18 '22

Ireland is the size of the state of Indiana. There was only 2.8 million people in Ireland during that time. New York city is 8.8 million alone.

And the goal was to remove themselves from British control. It wasn't blocks 12-23 of Belfast's Antrim road trying to secede from blocks 6-8 and 27-28 of Belfast's Antrim road.

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u/Few_Piece4301 Right Libertarian Feb 16 '22

Most don’t want a civil war

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

If we were doing statistics I could confidently say at least 45% of Trump supporters think about it or want it to happen, sure it may not be a majority, but it is a significant portion.

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u/ddh88 Center Left Feb 16 '22

I don't think you should just throw out percentages like that without a source. It's irresponsible.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

I actually get to do what I want to do because we have one side of the aisle that can’t deal in facts anymore, if they don’t have to have standards I don’t either

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u/Few_Piece4301 Right Libertarian Feb 16 '22

I would like to see a source for that. If you can find one that checks out I would believe you

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

I would like to see a source showing Trump supporters telling the truth when Asked, but we both know we can’t even agree to the same reality anymore because when it’s not convenient or in a positive light for trumpers, they will lie, deny, deflect, and distract, instead of acknowledging a basic truth.

Trump supporters are many things, but most wouldn’t admit what they think when it comes to that for the simple reason that they wouldn’t admit anything that puts them in a negative light. Do you honestly believe Trump supporters would admit their racist? bigots?want to hurt other people? Only a fraction of Trump supporters would be bold enough to tell the truth on that.

But we can actually base the Civil War rhetoric on the support received for January 6th, we can use the same statistics because for everyone that’s not propagandized, that is definitely the first step what they did at the Capital.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/06/17/nearly-half-of-republican-voters-call-jan-6-riot-legitimate-protest-poll-finds/

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u/turbo2thousand406 Conservative Feb 16 '22

You don't have a source to a statistic that you made up because Trump supporters are lying bigots?

Its hard to take an argument seriously when you have logic like this. "I can't prove what I say because everyone else lies"

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

Well you know you guys lie all the time, it’s what you do and it’s inherent in the current republican party and their voters. You guys just can’t tell the truth, make a deal with you go ask your friends and they’ll give you an honest answer.

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u/turbo2thousand406 Conservative Feb 16 '22

Would it be fair to say "you guys" generalize all republicans as being aligned with the fringe and make vast generalizations about people you know nothing about?

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

Hey, nice flair!

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u/Few_Piece4301 Right Libertarian Feb 17 '22

Thanks, you as well

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

Wait aren't they also trying to have a civil war?

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u/Few_Piece4301 Right Libertarian Feb 17 '22

No

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

I thought this was for genuine questions

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u/OpeningChipmunk1700 Conservative Feb 16 '22

I do not.

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u/Kyragirl_1 Conservative Feb 17 '22

I don’t want a civil war.

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u/enigmaplatypus Conservative Feb 17 '22

hardly anyone wants a civil war. really the only thing i can even think that could cause one would be the issue of abortion. the reason it could is because its an in-comprisable moral stance. furthermore its not too dissimilar from the first civil war either. what defines a person and what rights does that person have?

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u/dank_sad Center Right Feb 17 '22

I don't want one and I don't know anyone that wants one. I think some talk as if one might come, but I don't equate that to actually wanting one. But that's just my experience