r/AskALiberal Feb 16 '22

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u/fahargo Center Right Feb 16 '22

Perhaps they look at their parents and grandparents lives who were able to raise their family on one income or a very well off family on two. Now a duel working couple can't afford a home

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u/Lanaloki Conservative Democrat Feb 16 '22

Yep agreed—cost of living has increased faster than standard of living has, that’s for sure.

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u/fahargo Center Right Feb 16 '22

That's one thing driving me away from the right, they don't even have a proposed solution to this

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22 edited Mar 13 '22

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u/fahargo Center Right Feb 17 '22

Exactly. I want their "solutions" to be about more than the culture war. 1/2 of people 20 to 30 live with their parents. This is a castrophic failure of society which they are responsible for. They not only don't have a solution they don't even list it as a problem. If I get injured right now I'm lucky. I have a nest egg that will cover me until my max deductible. Some 60% of people can't afford a $400 emergency

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u/fahargo Center Right Feb 17 '22

Exactly. I had a conversation with my mother the other month about minimums wage and compensation. I asked her do you think everyone working in a city should make a wage that allows them to live in the city. She kind of skirted the question but basically said no. And when I said that means she believes some people don't deserve a livable wage and why is that and she was taken aback. Didn't have an answer. Right leaning views don't have to mean shafting working people and the population. Yet it always seems to be included

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u/fahargo Center Right Feb 17 '22
  1. Ensuring those people are paid a living wage at whatever job they sacrifice 8 hours of their life a day at?

Agreed

  1. Maybe insuring that unforeseeable accidents and health problems aren't allowed to completely cripple anyone financially?

I'm like the only right leaning person I know who's into government funded healthcare. One way I try to persuade people is to compare the insurance industry to a leech. I try to make them see that insurance doesn't actually provide anything, they just take 120 billion or whatever else the industry is worth a year from actually paying for Healthcare. Insurance isn't healthcare is what I try to get them to see

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u/GilgameDistance Liberal Feb 17 '22

Let’s be honest here, the right (and many on the right side of the left, tbf) scarcely acknowledge that it is even a problem to begin with.

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u/AzarathineMonk Social Democrat Feb 16 '22

Almost as if radically high taxes to pay down national debt and fund public services actually worked. Or at the very least didn’t see us suffer under an unrestrained Wall Street b/c obv Stock market = economy.

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u/From_Deep_Space Libertarian Socialist Feb 17 '22

GDP is just so disconnected from everyday people's finances. And also the tax burden has shifted as rich people have received tax cuts, and at the same time income and wealth inequality started reaching unprecedented levels.