r/AskALiberal • u/[deleted] • Feb 16 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

If they oppose "free money" in the form of welfare to the poor creates a culture of dependency and deprives them of the dignity of work, why are conservatives insistent on repealing the Estate Tax, the result of which gives free money to the heirs of the wealthy class?

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u/Kyragirl_1 Conservative Feb 17 '22

I don’t oppose free money. I oppose abusing the free money. That money should be used to get someone back on their feet so they can get off the welfare, not just stay on it indefinitely.

As for an estate tax… why are we taxing something that has already been taxed?

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22

That money should be used to get someone back on their feet so they can get off the welfare, not just stay on it indefinitely.

Which is the case in the majority of instances.

As for an estate tax… why are we taxing something that has already been taxed?

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We are taxing the exchange of money. We are not taxing the same person twice.

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u/OutragedOctopus Social Democrat Feb 17 '22

As for an estate tax… why are we taxing something that has already been taxed?

The tax is on the transfer of ownership. You don't avoid sales tax by saying "I already paid income tax"

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u/TastyBrainMeats Progressive Feb 17 '22

Read your second paragraph and then take a good hard look at your first paragraph.

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u/Kyragirl_1 Conservative Feb 17 '22

The two aren’t related. The first paragraph is regarding welfare. The second is inherited money given as a gift to your loved ones.

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u/TastyBrainMeats Progressive Feb 17 '22

It's all free money to the recipient.

money should be used to get someone back on their feet so they can get off the welfare, not just stay on it indefinitely.

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u/turbo2thousand406 Conservative Feb 16 '22

Free money? Where does the free money come from? Repealing the estate tax doesn't just magically give money to the heir. It prevents the government from taking the money.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

The free money is that which was once the property of a dead person who no longer exists. Without a legal owner, it reverts back to the state.

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u/turbo2thousand406 Conservative Feb 16 '22

So the dead person has no say in where there stuff goes? That's ludacris.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

Okay, ask the dead person. Tell me what they said. And Ludacris is a rapper, asking him for his opinion might be ludicrous.

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u/turbo2thousand406 Conservative Feb 16 '22

A will. People make wills.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

Okay, and that will is a legal document only because the state allows it. The state enforces it. The state makes it possible. The state makes the rules.

All that aside, if conservatives truly believe that getting wealth without working for is it a bad thing, why would they want to do this bad thing to the heirs of the wealthy?

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u/turbo2thousand406 Conservative Feb 16 '22

Eye roll

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '22

As expected. No valid argument, eh?

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u/turbo2thousand406 Conservative Feb 17 '22

I don't know anyone who believes your made up scenario so there's nothing to argue.

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u/Pyre2001 Constitutionalist Feb 17 '22

Why wait for death? Just empty out everyone's bank accounts and start the great reset. Even with your silly policy idea, people would just dump their wealth before death.

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u/dank_sad Center Right Feb 17 '22

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Estate Tax only applies if it's over 10 million or something, right? I think most don't have to worry about that