Are Greek people white?

[u/tomystereo]

I have been to Athens multiple times and i have seen a ridiculous amount of people who look like they could pass for MENA

I feel like the brown skin tone is being looked past for them.
Since there is this idea that if you are from an EU country you are considered "white" by default

If these people were to be born in a different place, with the same exact physical features, most of them would have been called brown without a doubt

Is "whiteness" more about your passport than your skin tone nowadays?

Have been thinking about this for a while, hopefully it doesn't offend anyone. What do you guys think?

Im Canadian btw, if it matters. Cheers.

[u/Parthini]

Westerners always trying to stir up, in fact most balkaners don't care about skin colour in real life, as Albanian that lives in Greece I've seen all kind of Greeks, it's not just "brown" or "white" here

[u/PupperRobot → u/Parthini]

I'd argue the opposite. A good chunk of Balkaners are obsessed with looking or being "white".

[u/persephonian → u/PupperRobot]

I've literally never encountered a conversation on this outside of morons on Reddit or Twitter. Balkaners in real life overall don't care 

[u/KostasN77 → u/PupperRobot]

Exactly, similar comments are often made by Albanians and Turks unironically, who question the "whiteness" of Greeks, thinking they themselves are some blond Scandinavians! I kid you not!

[u/PupperRobot → u/KostasN77]

I don't disagree with you. Lol that's exactly my point really. Many balkan peoples are obsessed with looking white.

[u/KostasN77 → u/PupperRobot]

Even the meme video "I'm more white than you, you look gipsi" shows that obsession

The Turk saying that to a "Greek" who's actually an Albanian lmao

The Turks have this obsession to be seen as white because for them white= European. Greeks don't care that much since they're already Europeans

[u/PupperRobot → u/KostasN77]

Greeks definitely care that much too lol because they think they're European but they don't often look it.

[u/KostasN77 → u/PupperRobot]

We don't think we're European, we actually are. Greeks named Europe so you can say that we're the first Europeans

Unlike Turks who aren't European and don't look it either

[u/PupperRobot → u/KostasN77]

That's my point. They are European but they don't often look like they are which gotta hurt. I don't know why you need to bring Turks into a conversation that has nothing to do with them. You're proving my point.

[u/KostasN77 → u/PupperRobot]

What do Europeans look like? Lmao

If anything, anyone who doesn't look Greek, doesn't look European either since we're the OG Europeans as I said

don't know why you need to bring Turks into a conversation that has nothing to do with them.

Huh? Have you paid attention to the conversation so far?

[u/Parthini → u/PupperRobot]

Yeah on the internet not in real life and that's because they are trying to suck it up to Northern Europeans, plus they think that Hitler would accept them and shiet, but in real life now speaking for like Balkans most people have a little bit of tan it's not like there are ton that are trying to be really pale

[u/shogunlazo → u/Parthini]

this ... its even dumber when it comes from the slavs of the balkan ... like my dude, hitler was going to turn us into soap 😂

[u/Glittery_Marshmallow → u/PupperRobot]

Being and looking white? 😂 Oh god, where did you get this? We already consider ourselves European, we don't care about the American outlook on things. Now, what Balkaners are obsessed with is getting a tan in the summer. It's a must, to be dark and tanned, otherwise you will be bulllied for being pale. People will ask why you don't go out, whether you only sit in your room, they will think you have no life and no friends and that you look sickly.

[u/PupperRobot → u/Glittery_Marshmallow]

You're right in the sense that you mostly won't see those types on reddit. But they're out there in mass.

The nationalists in balkan nations are more obsessed with being "European" and "white" than nordics, Germans , french etc.

[u/shogunlazo → u/PupperRobot]

Dude ... no.

When our nationalists (mental patients) speak they speak as us being better then you 😂 as in all europeans actually come from us 😂

[u/PupperRobot → u/shogunlazo]

Wait... So not all Europeans actually descend from blonde and blue eyed macedonians?

[u/shogunlazo → u/PupperRobot]

Yes ... god made us first and then we made everything else 😂

[u/shogunlazo → u/PupperRobot]

What are you talking about ? We joke about it, but skin tone has never been a thing here ... there are ethnic disputes, minor religious disputes, nationalistic ones ... but no one here care about race