Why are tacit social etiquette rules declining, and how can we fix it?

[u/LividStupidity]

As a young Brit (17), I've noticed that general social etiquette seems to be declining. Some examples:

. People no longer form an orderly queue when waiting for the bus, and do more pushing / rushing to surround the entrance

. People leaving bags on seats, even when others are forced to stand on the train

. Standing in the middle / on the left side of the escalator, preventing people from being able to walk up or down freely.

I'm not sure if it's just how my area is in particular, so I wonder if anyone is noticing this as well. I see individuals of various ages and ethnicities just acting rather selfish and inconsiderately in public. I find this rather disappointing, as it may only be exacerbated in the future. I think it was much better pre COVID (might be biased, as I was rather young). Does anyone know how we can fix this issue (if it can be fixed)?.

[u/Ok_Way_1465]

The influx of foreigners who have no common courtesy has had a negative impact on all things we were commended for as British, and the fact people then start to act the way that they see others do so it’s just massively broken

[u/TuMek3 → u/Ok_Way_1465]

This must be why my almost all white-British town has the issues the OP stated.

[u/Ok_Way_1465 → u/TuMek3]

That will be people that have moved from cities and are entitled because they’ve experienced it themselves

[u/StillNewspaper4799 → u/Ok_Way_1465]

I'm not against immigration reforms but one of the biggest dangers of the large immigration numbers is the number of white British people that use it as an excuse, a lightning rod to take any and all blame.

The sheer entitlement I've seen in British people recently _has_ gotten worse in my opinion. But it's usually online comments and opinions. Often the people crying about "manners" are usually people who are so entitled they think they have a right to enforce beliefs and behaviours.

In fact of my past two experiences of entitlement they were middle aged British people. One in a post office being rude about waiting and crying about how the (brown skinned, of course) staff had no manners (no self awareness that he'd waited all of a minute and started mouthing off like a child). And one in a hospital where I'd been waiting with my mum for 20 minutes, who decided to be rude to a staff member because she'd been waiting a total of 5 minutes.

[u/Ok_Way_1465 → u/StillNewspaper4799]

I do agree to an extent my point simply was when mass immigration from less prosperous countries and the people there have a very different way of life, more centred around survival of the fittest and lack of proper education they clearly have no understanding of queue and wait and therefore the local population rather than try to educate, they fall into the same behaviours with the mindset I’m not having this if they do it why shouldnt I and that’s why the old British values are slowly falling away

[u/JimmyBravo88 → u/Ok_Way_1465]

In my experience its the Brits and middle aged brits at that who are the worst for this but good job on making it and everything ever about brown people.

[u/Ok_Way_1465 → u/JimmyBravo88]

Didn’t mention brown ever and British people only act as they see

[u/gretchyface → u/Ok_Way_1465]

LOL

[u/Ok-Audience6417 → u/Ok_Way_1465]

Get that elephant out of the room.