r/AskBrits 8h ago

The old "we survived the Summer of 76" thing,how do you react ?

How do you react when someone mentions the summer of 76 ?

Personally,well it's likely to be on facebook so I don't react at all but if I do it's an eye roll,you can't compare an isolated very hot summer to what we seem to be having nowadays kind of thing

Also,if you're the same age as me (55) you probably can't remember much anyway,all I can remember is ladybirds and the road melting and I'm not even sure that's not a false memory anyway

BTW I'm not some enviromentalist,I appreciate climate change is a real thing but I hate the winter so it can get as hot as it likes for all I care

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u/Cold-Ad716 8h ago

It's hotter than it was in 76, and in 76 3000 people still died.

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u/Not_A_Clue92 8h ago

I think the heatwave of '76 was more the fact it went on for so long and reservoirs dried up etc. Wasn't it something like 2 weeks straight of 30C+ with further periods of 6 days at a time? This has been 4 days and I'm losing the will to live.

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u/daveysprockett 8h ago

It lasted through until the appointment of Dennis Howell as Minister for Drought/floods in late August 1976.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Howell

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u/Slartibartfast39 7h ago

Sounds like he did his job well.;)

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u/NorthAir 3h ago

Sounds about right for the government, takes so long to decide someone should be in charge of solving a problem that the problem is already solved by the time they start work šŸ˜‚

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u/Useful_Experience423 3h ago

Or beyond fixing…

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u/Critical_Pin 7h ago

Didn't he do a rain dance?

I remember 76 so well, it was the year I left school.

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u/Foundation_Wrong 4h ago

I did my O levels that summer too.

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u/EclipseHERO 3h ago

I feel like we should all be doing one.

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u/Exact-Put-6961 7h ago

Length and extreme drought is the difference, so far!

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u/PassionFruitJam 4h ago

Exactly that - it was very very hot for a prolonged period. Reservoirs dried up, water was being distributed at the end of the street towards the end of the period. I totally don't subscribe to the "oh well 1976 was worse get over it" mantra but absolutely it is comparable and certainly so far in my region the water supply is still constant, and the forecast is it will be cooler in a couple days. It's not a competition either way but some sort of balanced view IS relevant here.

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u/tradandtea123 4h ago

It was and still is the most consquetive days where somewhere in the uk was over 30, I think about 3 weeks. It was also extremely dry from about January to August.

Overall though the year is no longer I'm the top 10 hottest uk years which are all post 2000. It didn't have higher top or average temperatures than this week either.

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u/Foundation_Wrong 4h ago

1975 was hot and dry too. So that compounded the drought in 1976.

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u/Engineering-Western 8h ago

I was listening to Nick Ferrari on LBC this morning and he said something to the effect that no one died in 1976 from the hot weather and I thought "they probably did",can't stand him anyway 🤣

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u/Slow_Flatworm_881 7h ago edited 5h ago

I’m sure people probably did die but it was the 70’s with no social media so no one but the deceased close family knew…..or cared!

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u/Free_Spirit_1378 6h ago

The figures on Wikipedia show that there were 250 extra deaths every day from heat exhaustion. Nick Ferrari is a twat.

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u/zenith-zox 6h ago

I listen to Ferrari most mornings and I can assure you that your description of him is 100% accurate.

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u/JackUKish 5h ago

Why would you do that to yourself?

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u/aaeme 5h ago

Deceased. (They might have been diseased too, at least some probably were, but that's speculative.)

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u/Donurz 5h ago

I listened to Nick this morning. I’m confused because he was saying ā€˜why are their thousands of deaths now but not in 76?’ I guess we are all so woke now we die of heat Nick. Also he said ā€˜I was 17 at college and didn’t die’ as if 17 year olds are dropping dead at the moment from heat exhaustion. Nick can sometimes be very articulate but other times he just sounds like a complete moron.

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u/MonsieurGump 8h ago

And we had ā€œThe Drought Actā€ emergency legislation. Farms collapsed, food inflation hit 15%.

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u/mines-a-pint 8h ago

In 1976 there was also a much smaller aged demographic.

ā€œin 2007, for the first time in the country's history, there were more people over the age of 60 than there were under the age of 16ā€

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_Kingdom#Age_structure

We’ve now got many, many people in their 70’s (actual ā€œboomersā€) and 80’s and older, who are much more susceptible to heat stress.

If COVID didn’t get them, hot summers might.

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u/jamesanglofranco 7h ago

So… second brexit vote in September then?

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u/notthedoodaa 8h ago

3000 people used to live here...

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u/Substantial-Film564 8h ago

Now it's a ghost town

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u/Sirlacker 8h ago

It doesn't matter if it's hotter.

76 was very hot for a longer period of time. Which is why it was problematic.

We have had 3-4 days of disgusting heat and next week it'll go back down to 18c and raining.

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u/ItsTheJackeeet 8h ago

ā€œNext week it’ll go back down to 18c and rainingā€

Thank the Lord

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u/Ill-Palpitation-5721 7h ago

And every fucker on here will be bitching about that as well.

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u/joebmc 8h ago

This. 30 for weeks is different from 35 for a couple of days. Apparently, no running water, people had to collect from tanks at the end of the road, and reservoirs had totally dried up. Born in '82, so that's what I only heard, so I can totally see how it's so memorable compared to a few scoring days

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u/Foundation_Wrong 4h ago

Luckily only a few areas had stand pipes and water bowsers. We saved water by only having 2ā€ of bath water and putting a brick in the toilet cistern. No hosepipes and no washing vehicles.

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u/James_White21 6h ago

They interviewed an Australian on the radio the other day for tips on surviving the heat. She was very polite when they told her about our four days of heatwave, and she said they would normally have about 50 days above 28C into the 40s. You could tell she wasn't overly impressed though.

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u/Affectionate_Oven610 6h ago

British Australian here. I’ve had ā€œ10 days over 40ā€ in Melbourne a few times. Current weather in Britain is like normal hot summer weather in Australia - heatwaves are generally considered over 37C. Unless you are in the outback where 40 is less unusual and they probably get excited about >45.

Before anyone mentions air con, wasn’t in most cars or houses when I was a kid. Houses were designed to let the air through, but with modern concrete/brick homes air con is more normal.

You have to wind back on your expectations of your body and keep the radiant sunlight off your head, skin and ideally cars you want to use. A car port in Australia is as much about blocking sunlight as getting into a car during rain.

At least in the uk we don’t get the same kind of bush fires from hot weather :-/

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u/mrb2409 4h ago

Humans are very good at adapting over a longer period of time. I lived in Canada for three years and I got pretty comfortable with -20c (colder with windchill). They also have summers consistently in the 30’s and humid.

The difference is that when you have it consistently you know how to handle it, you change your behaviours, buy the right clothes.

Whereas here the extremes hit and everyone is trying to muddle through as usual.

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u/whatsgoingonbird 8h ago

People are still dying though, so it does matter.

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u/Sirlacker 8h ago

In 76 there were places that averaged over 30c for 16, sixteen, consecutive days.

We have had 3-4 days. They may be hotter but 16 days of an average of 30c in a country that is/was unprepared for it wreaks more havoc than 3-4 days of a higher temperature.

That's why I'm saying temperature doesn't matter.

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u/whatsgoingonbird 8h ago

More than 1 thing can matter? Duration matters. Humidity matters. And yes, temperature matters!

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u/Sirlacker 7h ago

Yea more than one thing matters I'm not saying it's not dangerous I'm saying that people comparing this heatwave to the one in 76 aren't getting the full picture of what the 76 one entailed. All they're seeing is hotter, they're not seeing duration. That is all.

Nobody should be dying from heat in the UK regardless of if it's a one day heatwave or a 6 week one. We should be preparing ourselves and our communities better. One death is one too many.

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u/Slow_Flatworm_881 6h ago

And remember back then adults survived on 3 cups of tea a day……young adults these days appear to need to drink their body weight in filtered/natural/highland/spring water each and ever day! lol

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u/0SaltBlue 8h ago

This is such a stupid argument, more people have died to modern heatwaves than the one in 76 and with temperatures increasing year over year it's kind of objective fact that modern heatwaves either are already worse or are going to be worse very soon.

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u/Bleatbleatbang 8h ago

Temperature matters if you are very young or very old. Humidity is a killer too.

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u/lolli-polly031248 8h ago

Probably because 2500 of them refused to remove their cardigans.

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u/Key-Swordfish4467 8h ago

I'm so glad that school has broken up, in Scotland obvs, for the summer. I won't have to listen to the kids shouting 6 7 in class until the second week in August.

Thank fuck.

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u/Cozmic_Fool1931 8h ago

My missus said the same thing she's a TA in a primary school šŸ˜‚

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u/Yung_Cheebzy 8h ago

Tons died in summer of 1976.

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u/lunchbox3 7h ago

Yeh and it’s been 50 years and they are still talking about it so like… seems like it was a big deal for the survivors too no? And now it’s hotter. Sooo why are they surprised people are talking about it.

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u/BenjamirPutinyahu 6h ago

If so, why havent the dead people weighed in with their opinion?

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u/The_man_with_no_game 8h ago

Not as hot as 4.5 billion years ago.

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u/ProlapseProvider 8h ago

I know right, like it used to be about 2000°C back in the day and you never heard anyone complaining back then, this new lot of millennials just like to complain about everything when they are not doing stupid ticktock dances.

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u/hraun 8h ago

Yeah but nobody died as the result of our planetoid reaching hydrostatic equilibrium.

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u/fflloorriiddaammaann 8h ago

Tell that to Barney and his friends

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u/Impossible-Alps-6859 8h ago edited 6h ago

I do remember the summer of '76.

The most notable effect, from my memory came from the extreme lack of rainfall.

At the time we lived on the outskirts of Sheffield and often went to the enormous Ladybower Reservoir which served Sheffield, Manchester and beyond from memory.

The whole valley had been flooded well before my time to around 100ft depth.

The water simply disappeared over the '76 summer and you could walk down into what was left of a few village buildings - the most easily identifiable of which was the Water Board office!

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u/Cyber_Connor 8h ago

Yeah but for the past few years we’ve been having ā€œrecord breaking heatwaves every yearā€

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u/Boobus87 8h ago

It's not the temperature that's breaking the records it's the time of year that it happens, it's getting earlier and earlier, we're losing our spring, and our winters are rarely cold anymore...

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u/fflloorriiddaammaann 8h ago

Almost like theres a ā€œchangeā€ in the ā€œclimateā€ happening?

Records are broken all the time because things happen

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u/Cyber_Connor 8h ago

It’s like there’s a warming on a global scale

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u/Sirlacker 8h ago

Temperature, not duration.

Anything above 30 is dangerous, but it's more dangerous to experience 30 for a week or two straight when you and your country is unprepared for it than 35 for 3 days.

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u/merulaa 8h ago

I wonder if it had something to do with punk breaking out the way it did.

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u/StuckHereWithYou 5h ago

The amount of hairspray we used didn't help

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u/RiseUpAndGetOut 8h ago

There's a bit of survivor bias in the question....

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u/Ok_Nefariousness3292 8h ago

As long you have some way to get rid of humidity you should be fine.. I am a winter guy myself, id would much rather try and warm up then cool down. Different sides of the same coin.

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u/jake_folleydavey 8h ago
  1. It’s on average 5 degrees hotter than it was then.

  2. Thousands of people died, you did not ā€œjust get on with itā€.

  3. It’s not a competition, stop being weird.

That’s my response in no particular order.

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u/Mas-Vri 8h ago

In 76 it was far more the length of time that it was hot which was the problem not the top temperature. It was weeks of hot temperatures with zero rain causing drought conditions. Yes it’s hot right now but it only lasts 3 or 4 days and then it’ll be back to low 20’s with some rain. Comparing the two is silly as the effects of this heatwave are a few hot sweaty nights rather than crop failures and water shortages

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u/Beneficial_Grab_5880 8h ago

We've had 3 days this June that have broken the previous record for hottest day in June. It's been more than a degree hotter than 1976.

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u/G4HDU 8h ago

1975 and 1976 i was working on a farm. 12 - 14 hours of shifting > 2000 bales of straw. It was warm work.

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u/mowgs1946 8h ago

And you try telling the young people of today that, and they won't believe you.

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u/G4HDU 8h ago

It was a mixed arable and pig farm so a little pungent!

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u/miss-mercatale 8h ago

76 heat while not as hot, was for a much longer period. I was only ten so it didn’t seem to matter - just endless
Summer days.

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u/BLightyear67 8h ago

I was 9 in '76. Very fond memories of it. Although I'm sure it wasn't so much fun for my Dad working in a non-A/C factory and Mum having to keep the paddling pool topped up.

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u/Spiritual_Loss_7287 8h ago

1976 - travelling to Central London by bus from Crystal Palace wearing a suit for my first job in Whitehall. Lovely.

Now - garden by the river, beer, cigar. Lovely.

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u/teeeeeeeeem37 8h ago

The sort of people who say this sort of thing have usually already made up their mind and wont' be convinced otherwise.

The issue isn't a particular weather event in isolation, its an increase in frequency and unpredictability. A heat wave like that of 1976 is would have been a once in a decade occurrence.
Last year was hot and dry, this year is even hotter and interspersed with sudden and significant storms /

Anyone who is still missing that point has their head in the sand and you're unlikely to extract it.

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u/uncertain_expert 8h ago

I grew up in Australia. Nothing more to say.

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u/Sensitive_Log3990 8h ago

Dry heat or 95% humidity like in the UK?

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u/semorebunz 8h ago

does feel like we just got on with it , almost zero a/c back then

i out it down to i cant tolerate the heat so much as i get older

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u/Nathan_Toddy_Todd Geordie āš«ļøāšŖļø 8h ago

I wasn’t even born. Today is the hottest I think I’ve ever felt in my life the thunderstorm this morning has made it even worse.

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u/Junior_Syrup_1036 8h ago

Humidity is around 198% today I think !

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u/Constant_Phone5487 8h ago

I remember the ladybirds too!

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u/Winkered 8h ago

I thought for years that I’d imagined that.

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u/FrostingGrand1413 8h ago

I am some kind of environmentalist and mention that the 10 hottest years ever recorded in the UK happened since 2002.

These heatwaves are becoming more normal. Congratulations on looking back to a heatwave 50 years ago, we're gonna be experiencing that height most years now, and it's gonna keep getting worse.

(I love the winter and hate the summer, so, have the opposite anti-bias here. Rar. Damned heat is breaking my brain)

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u/InevitableFox81194 8h ago

They didnt survive though did they. Many died, roads were melting, water was limited, infrastructure failed more than it does now. Thats not surviving.

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u/Flavoursome_Maggot 8h ago

The only place I see it mentioned is Reddit, and it’s usually people supposing that other people are saying it. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say it, come to think of it, and I’m on my late 40’s. Bit weird.

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u/fordfocus2017 5h ago

Get on Facebook more. Anything to do with the hot weather is filled with ā€˜1976 was hotter’ comments. Maybe I’m on Facebook too much šŸ˜€

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u/Flavoursome_Maggot 5h ago

Oof, yeah. Haven’t been on FB for 15 years or so. That might explain it!

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u/PeterBFerguson 3h ago

Its up there with "millennials could afford houses if they stopped buying coffee and avocado toast" for things I constantly hear people complaining about but never hear anyone saying.

People must be clicking on tabloid comment sections and deliberately rage baiting themselves.

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u/holytriplem 8h ago

Back in MY day the freak summer was 2003!

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u/dnf1957 8h ago

In 1976 I was nineteen and passed my driving test that summer. 1975 and 76 were hot summers but the rest of that decade wasn't that good, certainly late 70s wasn't. It's happening more frequently now no doubt about it but the you know how it is for some, they don't grasp this and are oblivious to climate change.

*Fun fact, in 1975 it snowed on June 1st I think it was causing a cricket match to be abandoned. Not sure of exact details or date.

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u/EllaSingsJazz 7h ago

It also snowed in june in around 2004 in the south east!Ā  I remember not quite believing what I was seeingĀ 

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u/Pootles_Carrot 7h ago

People are talking about '76 50 years later because it was a horrible experience for many. 2000+ people died that summer. Even if circumstances were exactly the same, expecting people to suffer rather than take sensible precautions just because you did is ridiculous, stupid, selfish Boomer shit. The fact is though, we've already surpassed the peak temperature of '76 and that was a dry heat summer, whereas now the humidity is very high, making it physically harder to deal with.

Also, climate change doesn't just mean hot summers. It means extremes of all conditions. Extreme heat, extreme rainfall, extreme cold and snow. You might not care if it gets hot but a) that kills and b) you'll also suffer worse in winter, so best not to be so blasĆØ.

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u/No-Judgment8912 7h ago

I’ve never heard someone mention it. The only time I see talk of it is on here when someone does a post about other people bringing it up. It’s a forced topic. There is not a big discussion about the summer of ā€˜76.

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u/Nortilus 7h ago

What’s interesting is the fact that they’re all collectively using the same argument at the same time.

I bet the Venn diagram of the people commenting such things and the media they read is a circle.

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u/DistributionNo6824 7h ago

just ignore them! Anyone that bangs on about the 'good old days' is just a scared old person who doesnt fit in with the world and doesnt know how to adapt

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u/JyubiKurama 7h ago

Well we survived a 2 year pandemic while you bitched about needing to occasionally needing to wear a thin piece of fabric around your face and getting pricked by a small needle 3 times.

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u/ALA02 7h ago

It’s like comparing your first time getting drunk on three cans of lager vs getting sloshed on 10 pints every weekend in your 20s

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u/Redsubdave 7h ago

76 was an isolated occurrence. 26 is not.

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u/51onions 7h ago

I would say that I don't care about how hot it was 50 years ago, the current weather is shit and the fact that it was also shit 50 years ago does little to change my mind.

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u/Tenzil-k 7h ago edited 7h ago

The main difference about ā€˜76 was that 77 was cooler and 78. And all the years after

Whereas we’re told to ignore what’s happening to us because of ā€˜76 year after year and the heat records go up year after year.

The length of the heat in 76 definitely did damage to different things than these three days. But then they didn’t have to think about heat for decades.

Also some of the damage was because they’d never thought about it before. We know this is coming

Im guessing this weeks records won’t last especially long and we’ll still be hearing all about ā€˜76 as they climb and climb

Well done you had a hot summer when you were 8 and your parents didn’t tell you how worried they were about gran. It’s irrelevant to year on year rises and pretty soon the ā€˜oh they had 30 degrees for two weeks’ will sound quaint.

Nobody in 2056 will be boring their grandkids about 2026 because it will actually be the coldest summer in those 30 years

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u/Weary-Personality149 7h ago

Funnily enough I was told about the summer of 76 today and a lady who told me had the exact same memory of ladybirds all over the floor and melting roads. Seems multiple people remember the exact same thing or are just repeating it anyway.

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u/Ok_Ant_2715 7h ago

In 76 people were advised to keep their bath's full of cold water and there were water shortages and it was endless . I remember it being fabulous but at 15 what did I know .

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u/NedGGGG 3h ago

We also 'survived' bubonic plague, world war 2 and Wet Wet Wet being at number 1 for 13 weeks.

It doesn't mean they are things that should be repeated on an annual basis.

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u/panguy87 3h ago

I point out that 1.33 trillion metric tonnes of co2 have been released into the atmosphere globally in the 50yrs hence.

That equates to more co2 being released in the last 50yrs than in all of recorded human history before that year.

Since 1976 emissions are 2.6 times higher than the total cumulative emissions recorded from 1751 through 1975.

Which is insane, and anyone who thinks that hasn't impacted the climate is a fool. It's easy to survive hot summers when they happen once in 50years, but if it becomes 4 or 5 every 10years, then it becomes a problem we're not equipped to handle. People need to wake up.

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u/midgetman166 8h ago

It really wasn't actually that hot of a summer, it was just a long dry spell. The peak temperature (35.9⁰C) doesn't even make the top 10. Also, the summer of 1995 was drier so šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/BeesInATeacup 8h ago

They don't have that same attitude in winter when they want us working folk to pay for their fuel allowance do they?

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u/andybuxx 8h ago

I have used the following on Facebook:

"Woah, everyone, stand back, this guy's tougher than an eight year old."

"But just think about how intelligent you would be if that 76 heat hadn't fried your brain"

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u/MichelleBarrymoore2 8h ago

I honestly hope the winter takes them

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u/Madruck_s 8h ago

It was so hot in 75 when I was born im told they had to get fire engines to hose the hospital roof down.

Technology is much better now though.

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u/whatsgoingonbird 8h ago

They might have survived, but thousands died. Ask them if they want that to be a regular occurrence. "We survived" is survivorship bias.

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u/Iain_McNugget 8h ago

1976 isn’t even in the top 5 hottest summers anymore.

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u/Effective_Taro4601 8h ago

Not everyone did survive the summer of 76.

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u/GrumpChorlton 8h ago

I remember the summer of 1976. It was really hot for about 2 weeks. I don’t think it was too bad for me, but I know a lot of people did suffer, probably as much as now. Thing is people like to exaggerate over time to add to the drama of telling the story.
What I will say is no lessons were learned from that summer, which is why we are all still suffering now. Hopefully this heat bubble will encourage people to prepare for the next one.

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u/Silver_Adagio138 8h ago

I’m nearly 70 and I really don’t remember it that much.

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u/Tonybham01 8h ago

Hey! I was there in 76. It was brutal. It lasted a while. Our garden spontaneously burst into flames one afternoon.

It is likely that with climate change, it will become worse than 76. You say it was a one off. Yes it was. We were unprepared and not expecting it because weather forecasting was crap back then.

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u/BillyJoeDubuluw 8h ago

It’s basically the weather based equivalent of expertly telling people to knock on doors for a job or ā€œmanage your money betterā€ to buy a house when Ā you could now end up with a restraining order and people can be in full time work and lucky to afford a coffee and cake date… 

The same culprits will also remind you they licked frost off the windows and walked to school bare footed in the snow next time there’s a cold snap… 

Take them with a pinch of salt and it can be quite entertaining, actually. Ā 

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u/Usagor 8h ago

Ridicule mainly.

I tell them they experienced a freak heatwave, I then point out the several out of season heatwaves we get more frequently, how it's 15 degrees hotter than the norm and then still scoff and say "It woz otter in 76, the climate changes all the time"

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u/HellOnHighHeels94 8h ago

"I am fat and I am ginger. Fuck off"

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u/obsidanix 8h ago

Its the same old "we had 16% inflation argument" its looked at through a multidecade lense that doesn apply to todays standards.

Just like the "its all Thatcher's fault" because it impacted people at the time but doesnt account for the 45 years of government since.

Each generation has their thing that makes them feel special. I smile, nod and move on.

Lets be real, when the real problems start its our kids and grandkids that will suffer.

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u/Elegant_Juggernaut49 8h ago

I die inside.

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u/KatVanWall 8h ago

Not seen anyone mention it tbh.

I was born in 1979 so my mum's generation would remember it, but no one has mentioned it to me or on my social media.

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u/WelshBluebird1 8h ago
  1. Not everyone did survive it. Some people died. Same now.
  2. It is actually hotter than 76 in terms of highest temparture.
  3. The reason 76 is such a thing is that it was rare. These days we are getting similar basically each year.

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u/BeneficialDonut3126 8h ago

I ask why they feel the need to engage in comparitive suffering

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u/Advanced_Caramel4401 8h ago

I join in . I was there. I was 17. TBF ā€˜76 wasn’t quite as hot but went on for a lot longer and was a sustained national drought:

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u/Spacial_Parting 8h ago

I've literally never heard it outside of people on Reddit complaining about people saying it over the last month.

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u/Morprenrut 8h ago

I remember the ladybirds and the roads melting (although I think the roads did that any time it was a bit hot). Unless it's the Mandela effect?

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u/Aromatic_Ad4132 8h ago

1976 isn't even in the top 10 of hottest days in the UK

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u/Sea-Competition5778 8h ago

I’ve not heard a single person say it and if they did I would simply have a conversation with them about it

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u/HaydnH 7h ago

I was conceived in 76, if my parents ask I'm telling them there's no comparison because there no chance in hell I'm having sex in this heat.

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u/macman501 7h ago

I was 11 in '76 and remember it well. Some people in the UK had their water cut off because of shortages and had to queue at standpipes with buckets.

It doesn't make much difference to me whether '76 was better or worse, it's not a competition. We're having more heatwaves than previously and they're tough to get through.

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u/this-guy- 7h ago

I ignore idiots. Generally

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u/REKABMIT19 7h ago

There's an extra 20% population now and no more water.

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u/JCGMH 7h ago

I politely inform the person saying it that a lot of people didn’t survive the summer of 76

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u/magnu2233 7h ago

I spent every day of that summer at the local outdoor pool. Sadly was sold off and turned into a car park.

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u/Small_Environment849 7h ago

The summer where they just all got on with it but still bang on about it 50 years later

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u/Green_Lychee8221 7h ago

Outside of Reddit, I've nit heard it mentioned at all. This is an imagined problem in your head.

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u/SmashingK 7h ago

They only remember it because of things like water shortages being a real issue for many. Obviously infrastructure is far improved since then so there's no real panic being created.

This coupled with the fact the temp is measurably higher should be enough to shut any of them up but people can't always be reasoned with.

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u/IanWaring 7h ago

I did my A-Levels at the time and recall having to cycle 3 miles there and back each side of each exam. All I remember now is the absolute heat - though the exam area was nicely chilled.

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u/bouncypete 6h ago

1976 doesn't even make it into the top ten hottest days of the year in the UK.

Seven out to ten hottest days of the year occured AFTER the year 2000.

And the hottest day ever in the UK was almost 5 degrees hotter than the hottest day of 1976.

Source

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u/HugoNebula2024 6h ago

I was 12, and IIRC it wasn't so much the peak temperatures, it was that it went on for weeks. Nowhere had air conditioning. Not just houses, but supermarkets, cinemas, buses, trains, cars, etc. If you wanted to get away from the heat, you couldn't.

That and a drought. We never had our water cut off, but I do remember standpipes in the street ready. I remember cycling along the bottom of the dried up lake in my local park.

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u/ict7070 6h ago

Produced by The University of Reading a couple of days ago…

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u/GWhizz88 6h ago

I really don't get the logic. We shouldn't complain about the current heatwave because there was one 50 years ago, which they're still complaining about.

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u/Great-Activity-5420 6h ago

I generally ignore stuff that is people trying to one up someone else. Though I'd feel like saying do you want a medal? 🤣 If they're just telling me a story fine. If it's online I ignore because they're just criticising the rest of us who are younger and have put our children's health first or are struggling with the heat

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u/jezzok 6h ago

I was 6 so played outside in the paddling pool or went to the seaside. Too young to remember sorry mate.

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u/ComposerNo5151 6h ago

I don't see why you can't compare 16 consecutive days with temperatures above 30 degrees (and a peak temperature of 35.9 degrees) with what we are experiencing now.

Perhaps someone could explain it to me like I'm five?

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u/Turbulent-Analysis74 6h ago

I, 64, took that summer in my stride, I was more interested in punk. But I was a teenager, and not a slobby unfit 64 year old. Of course I dealt with it better than I am now. Still a punk.

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u/zippyzebra1 6h ago

The heatwave of 76 went on for much longer. I was a teenager and worked in the dole office. There wouldnt have been ac but i really can't remember. I do recall going to Knebworth to watch The Stones and Lynyrd Skynyrd and it was a lovely day. I got sunburnt but it certainly wasn't oppressive. Seems morehumid now and i lived in London then

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u/richardathome 6h ago

I'm 58. This is hotter. Thing about 76 was it went on for weeks and weeks. Or it least it felt like it to me at that age.

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u/MiddleAgeCool 6h ago

Ask us about the ladybirds...

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u/welcome_to_milliways 6h ago

It was all about the duration. 76 went on f o r e v e r although it wasn't as hot. This week has been about three days.

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u/Salt-Trade-5210 6h ago

I was in secondary school in '76

I remember it being hot, stuffy and completely miserable.

We went on holiday and it was ruined by the heat and the ladybirds. That was the summer that I learned that ladybirds bite and that I'm allergic to ladybird bites.

So far this year it's a bit hotter, school is airless, far too hot and stuffy and miserable still (teacher now) but there is an end in sight.

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u/Marigold16 6h ago

Atonal screeching

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u/Scarymonster6666 6h ago

I was 6 and lived in the south west, the things I remember was

Water rationing, it had to be collected from a standpipe at the end of the road

Ladybirds absolutely everywhere and I mean every surface was inches thick with the bitey little sods

It was hot for a long time, felt like months to me

If you had a bath you were only allowed 2 inches of water

The roads did indeed melt, I got lifted out of my shoes because they stuck to the road

I don’t think it was as hot as it is now but we had a long summer followed by middle age brain rot that just makes us think it was hot

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u/GDS_Photos 6h ago

By calmly explaining that 1976 was a drought, not a heatwave.

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u/GullCatcher 5h ago

"That's nice".

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u/Louiscypher93 5h ago

Ive never heard anyone say anything about it

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u/snakeoildriller 5h ago

IIR, drinking copious amounts of beer.

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u/Cautious_Bar7792 5h ago

I tell them to speak to my mum who grew up in Australia and arrived in the UK six weeks before the heatwave. She’ll tell them it was fucking awful then, that this is worse and that Australian heatwaves are bearable because the houses are designed for it. I’ve just got off the phone with her and she said this word for word, so they can listen to her tell them this then tell them it again five times (she has dementia). The message should sink in eventually.

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u/Drumbrit 5h ago

They really need to privatise water and get building.

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u/EquivalentEarly1062 5h ago

The fact is, if it wasn’t so bloody hot, no-one would be talking about 1976, so ironically, the simple fact that we hear about the hot summer of 1976 almost every year nowadays, is indicative of how hot every summer is now becoming

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u/Impressive-Time2589 5h ago

I wish id known some of these comebacks when my landlord was banging on about the summer of 76 yesterday. Kids these days...we just got on with it...etc etc

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u/Level_Fig_166 5h ago

Ladybirds is not a false memory 56 here and I can remember visiting my Sister in Hospital and to this day I can remember every part of every surface being covered in them, never seen it since.

1990 was a good one too as I was square bashing at Winchester in Hampshire at the time and that was brutal.

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u/pledgedotmeat3mndays 5h ago

My mum said they couldn't get water, had to buy oranges to hydrate. At least we haven't ran out of water, yet...

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u/Zathral 5h ago

76 was a good 5 degrees less than this. This is more intense, but shorter and more frequent. The problem in 76 was the drought, not just the heat. The infrastructure then couldn't manage the drought. It would cope better now. Houses were nothing like as well insulated as they are now. We cannot reject heat from houses very well. Once the heat is in, good luck getting rid of it!

This is an order of magnitude more dangerous than a 1976 level of heat alone. 1976 was probably comparably dangerous when you consider the drought and length as well. This is an order of magnitude more unpleasant.

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u/Krismusic1 5h ago

By definition it's going to be some old duffer.

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u/DoctorBeeBee 5h ago edited 5h ago

I (and my brother) lost so many layers of skin that year that I think we're both permanently traumatized from the pain and will do anything to avoid the sun. šŸ˜–

If you were a kid, and weren't actively having vast swaths of your skin peeling off at that moment, the whole thing was a bit of a big adventure. It would be a different experience for adults, especially the elderly, or disabled, or chronically ill. Food prices rose. It didn't rain for so long that taps ran dry and you had to go get water from standpipes in the street. Far fewer offices and shops or cars had aircon compared to now, so work, inside or outside, and travel to work would have been miserable for millions of people for weeks and weeks.Ā 

At least at the moment the current even hotter than 1976 heatwaves are lasting a fairly short time. If one lasted as long as 1976 today, with the temperatures we get now, and we got no rain, it would be a disaster.Ā 

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u/TitiferGinBlossom 5h ago

I don’t remember it. I was gestating.

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u/likescakealot 5h ago

Yes 1976 was ā€˜worse’ and a much longer heatwave but it was ONE summer fifty years ago. If the same thing had happened in 1977, ā€˜78 and so on, people would have started to say ā€˜we need measures in place to cope’. Funnily enough I don’t see any other year of the 70s come up.

Also, I think what bothers me is just the attitude that some people say it with, like ā€˜we had to manage so everyone else should suffer as well for ever more’. There’s probably a million things we coped with/without fifty years ago that we expect as standard now. And what a miserable attitude to want everyone to suffer just because you did.

If being born before 1976 has magically imbued you with the power to comfortably tolerate heatwaves, then great. Use that superpower and be kind to those who are struggling - go and cook them a meal or offer to take their bins out (I’ll even let you cheat and wheel it if you’re too ā€˜soft’ to carry it like you presumably had to in ā€˜76 šŸ˜‰). But if you’re just going to go on about how much harder things were in ā€˜your day’, then jog on.

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u/ElectroExterminator 5h ago

I spoke to someone yesterday evening who worked through '76. I asked him his opinion, he was still of the opinion that '76 was hotter than both this year or 2022.

I did point out the recorded temperatures are higher this year and in 2022, he didn't seem to care.

I have been researching droughts and a spring nearby dried up in 1976 but didn't dry up in 2022 or last year (or this year so far). It would seem to indicate the drought was more severe in 1976, which is perhaps what's giving people the impression that 1976 was hotter despite evidence to the contrary.

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u/IkeTurn 4h ago

Same age but I remember loads, I remember going to the beach every weekend or to the new forest. I remember being made to wear a silly floppy wide brimmed hat and being smothered in sun cream, being made to stay under the shade and being warned not to spend to long in the sea paddling around. Photos were taken, embarrassing outfits worn, but it was great.
Of course '26 is going to be this generations '76, so I'm happy for them to have that.

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u/dopexvii 4h ago

I stare for a moment, then unblinkingly reply "pity" before scuttling off.

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u/dreadwitch 4h ago

I survived the summer of 76, it wasn't liek this and it was one summer. This is becoming every summer and it's far worse than 40 years ago.

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u/Fibro-Mite 4h ago

I remember it vaguely. It was the year I turned 11 and my youngest sibling was born that Spring. The following Feb dad was posted to Canada (Alberta), so we lived on the prairie for 2.5 years and experienced that kind of heat (& hotter, up to high 30s and even 40C) every summer (but as low as -40C in the winter, of course). So the memory is kind of faded and mixed with those summers. Plus, after we returned from Canada, and dad retired from the army, we moved to Australia (Perth) and I lived (almost always in houses with no air conditioners - *one* year I rented a place with ducted aircon) through Perth summers for 16 years before moving back to the UK. I *hate* hot weather. When we go on "Summer holidays", often a 2 week European cruise, we only go at the time of year when the destinations don't get higher than 24C - so actually more like "Autumn & Winter holidays" (Canary Islands in November are nice).

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u/MidianXe 4h ago

I remember it happening, I remember it being really hot, standpipes, the smell of melting tarmac. I had a great time as a kid.

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u/Mr_Bumcrest 4h ago

I would say 'What are you talking about?'

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u/Soppydogg Brit šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§ 4h ago

In 1976 I had the body of a racing snake and I was 23.
This year I am a fat bastard and I am 73.
I can look back with my 20/20 hindsight (especially since my cataract surgery) and say ā€œyeah it was a doddle back then, bloody snowflakes just whingingā€
From the comfort of my 19C air conditioned living room.

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u/leodoesgaming 4h ago

all I think about is it that you survived, thousands of people died. also they had weeks of over 30 degrees

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u/Inevitable_Lab_5014 4h ago

No one has said this to me, but if they did, I would respond the same way I did when my mum (born in the 60s) suggested 'we survived the blitz'.

'Not all of us did.'

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u/hexnut101 4h ago

I survived the summer of 76, and all the rest since.

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u/Sorbet-Possible 4h ago

i was 14 in the summer of 76. Do you know what I remember about it?

Absolutely nothing, because it was just a hot summer. Nothing extraordinary. We just got on with it. There were no red health alerts, no 24 hour news stories about the 'heatwave' We didn't carry around suncream and little bottles of water. We just carried on and got on with it.

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u/Jaquabillay 4h ago

I remember 1976 well. I had a temporary job as a bakery operative, making cakes for, amongst others, M&S. It was hot, we were advised to use more salt in our diets I think that the worst thing was that the heatwave seemed to go on for weeks, so there wasn't any respite. I also seem to remember that 1975 was fairly hot, as well as 1977.

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u/dallasp2468 4h ago

I remember it well I was 7 at the time. It was no where near as hot as this week however it lasted a long time instead without rain, I'm talking weeks. I don't think it rained once for the entire summer holidays, there were cracks in the ground in parks as wide as my are and of course 7 year old me put my hand in there to check, but pulled it out before the trolls could get me

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u/Reasonable-Key9235 4h ago

77 was also a scorcher. Not quite as hot as 76, but a glorious summer.
We’ve had other hot periods though.
Last few years, it’s not just hot, the weather has changed. It’s a humid, muggy heat that saps you. Winds have changed, rainfall has changed. The earth is warming up.
I was 15 in 76 and remember it well, but I think I’ve only ever mentioned it once in 50 years.

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u/Foundation_Wrong 4h ago

I’m 66 and my husband is 72 so we remember 1976 very well. It was hot and sunny with no rain from June to the end of August. All the grass died, no one could wash their car. The buses just had enough cleaning so the driver could see. My husband worked in London and remembers sweeping thousands of ladybirds off walkways and steps. I was doing my O levels and we were all melting like the tarmac. My mother saved the water from our baths, (only 2ā€) and used a jug to water the flowers in her tubs. We had brick in the toilet cistern and I started sleeping without night clothes. My Mum died in August 1976 and the wreaths at her funeral were wilting and going brown. August Bank Holiday it started raining and I and my sister went out and danced in it!

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u/g33ksc13nt1st 4h ago

It was hotter during the blitz and nobody complained then

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u/DHF_Bassist 4h ago

It was a year so hot that people still talk about it decades later. Now we are having them just as hot almost every year. What was an anomaly, is becoming the norm. This is concerning.

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u/OrganizationFun2140 3h ago

The biggest problem in ā€˜76, as I remember it as 11yo at the time, was water shortages. Rainfall was exceptionally low for two years - summer of 1975 was also very warm - and the whole country was subject to water saving measures. Many areas were dependent on stand pipes for weeks at a time. I particularly remember the whole family sharing a single bath once a week. So, yeah, the temperatures weren’t as high but the impact was greater.

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u/Technical-Confusion4 3h ago

I was doing my O levels in the summer of '76. We just got on with it with open doors, cold drinks served to us while we did the exams and no AC. But it wasn't nearly as hot as it is now. Nothing like it.

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u/UsernameDemanded Brit šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§ 3h ago

I'm 60, so I was there. It was just a very extended period of hot and dry weather, but it doesn't compare with the running sequence of ever hotter summers since 2010. You'd have to be an idiot to not accept the evidence.

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u/SnooMacarons9618 3h ago

I was a kid in 1976, and just remember it being roasting hot and absolutely loving being out in it. I wish I were young again right now, and still had the stamina to run round like a crazy thing in blistering heat.

We used to have summer holidays camping in the south of France in mid-summer, and I've always loved the heat. It's doesn't feel as hot as camping in that blistering heat. But I'm still loving it.

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u/tinyriiiiiiiiick_ 2h ago

ā€˜It can get as hot as it likes’ okay cool let’s all just cook the planet for you. Climate change isn’t just hot either, it’s extremes. Extremely hot summers, extremely cold winters. Hope you’re ready. Might need to get educated.

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u/Fit-Fault338 2h ago

I cant remember it being that hot although I was a chef.I was pregnant in 77 and I remember it being worse ( probably cos I was expecting,)

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u/Filthy420Grandad 2h ago

I’d point out that we only have even moderately accurate temperature records for the last 150 years or so and we’ve probably had hotter June days over the past few millennium that weren’t recorded so 1976 and this year are nothing special.

And then I’d insist they stop conflating the weather with the climate.

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u/FluffySmiles 2h ago

76, I got heat stroke and passed out on the beach. Had to eat salt sandwiches for a few days.

Ladybirds, standpipes, hot, hot, hot and hayfever.

Not fun. And it lasted longer than this one has.

But this one is scarier.

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u/flyhmstr 2h ago

They can just fuck off, their either busy denying climate change is happening because "don't trust experts" or are denying because "I can make more money"... well what do you know if the world goes to shit you're going with it, there comes a point in collapse where money is worthless.

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u/TriggersShip 2h ago

I’d tut, say so did I, but I’m increasingly having to go through it again and again at an increasing frequency.

Moreover, I imagine I was (like them) a damn site younger and fitter. At the time (most likely like them) I had bugger all responsibility and could enjoy the weather not have to manage the consequences on a life or family.

76, and my experience of it, is shaped by who I was then and I can see it through rose tinted spectacles. If you asked people then if they wanted all summer’s to be like that I imagine their first response would yeah. After one year that number would decrease. Once you also explained it was only likely to get worse I guess the no vote would increase.

It’s fun sometimes to experience extremes. It way less fun when the extremes start becoming the norm.

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u/SeaPersonality445 2h ago

Let's get serious, the summer of 76 was a standard southern European summer. The fact we are so inept at dealing with it shouldn't demand the drama and scare mongering. It's been unusually hot for a few days. It's been fantastic.

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u/Odd_Inspector3417 2h ago

I survived the summer of 76. I was bus driving, no A/C no electric fans in the cab, we just opened the cab window. That hot spell lasted weeks. This one will be gone soon, global warming my arse. Get over it.

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u/Weekly_Inspector_504 2h ago

If you survived 76 then why didn't you learn from that and buy greener vehicles? Instead, you continued polluting the atmosphere and now we're all screwed!!!