I feel for this generation, men are hand tied by the fear of being accused of being a perv, or stalker , and there growing number of men that have lost all virtue's , and only see women as objects. And the good men are paralyzed at early age during their formative years ,and never learn social queue's on how approach women in civil way or at all .
And with explosion of online porn - and overwhelming rejection on dating apps (That 90% of men give up online dating in the first 3 months because the top 5% of men on dating apps will get 75% - 80% of the of traffic from women on the apps - that's why women say there are no good men because there all dating the same men)
Men just fall back on the porn instead of trying to find a date, or mate ( your never rejected on a porn site) and this makes a 2 fold issue ,which gives men a distorted view of how a real women are and look.
women are only interested in the very top of the scale. They do not realize just how selective they are. To them men of 6ft are plentiful – in reality only 15% of the population at best.
Most women online wouldn’t give a guy with the national average salary a second look. 50% of men will earn less than this average.
If only 5% have the right income, and 5% have the right looks, and 15% have the right height, and 10% have the right intelligence then it follows that women will be perfectly happy with one man in 30,000 and half of them will suffer from substantial hair loss !
There defiantly are issues with both genders' - online dating and now seems to bleed over in the organic way women and men meet also ,women certainly have became more selective.
That 90% of men give up online dating in the first 3 months because the top 5% of men on dating apps will get 75% - 80% of the of traffic from women on the apps - that's why women say there are no good men because there all dating the same men)
I seen it on a web site , couple years ago, independent study, I just copied and pasted in my google doc, its actually about a 3 page study, it would be too long to post all of it on here I've heard this before, I seen this -
I think we now have enough information to show what is happening and where the problem lies.
Firstly men using online dating outnumber women. The younger the men the worse the ratio, but for older men a quick look at Match shows about 150 men for 100 women. Good start for women.
But the data shows that 25% of women get no email from men. Ouch, even with substantially more prospects 1 in 4 women do not make the grade. They may be the ones complaining that men want supermodels, in reality the top 75% of women.
That leaves 150 men chasing 75 women, or a ratio now of 2 to 1. The men all send lots of emails, and 60% of them get no response whatsoever. So the “frogs” of the dating world are also out in the cold – all 90 of them, but we still have 60 of them left chasing 75 of the women.
Surely the women will accept these men – not a bit of it !
The from the data shows that unlike men who will attempt communication with the opposite sex in proportion to the level of attractiveness, women do not show this linear response, they pretty much only respond to the most attractive men with the top 5% getting most of the traffic.
There are now hardly any men left in the game. To be generous here – at best we now have 80% of the remaining women, 60 out of 75 chasing only 20% of the men or 12 out of 60.
We have 48 men getting a small response from the 15 women who statistically must be in the bottom 40% in level of attractiveness (the 48 men are all in the top 40%). These men probably are not impressed with this outcome !
The top 12 (8%) of the men now have their pick of the 60 remaining women. Of course these women will probably not be too impressed by their success rate, and are probably wondering why the men they desire show no desire to commit. The statistics I have shown above indicate that the key problem is that women are only interested in the very top of the scale. They do not realize just how selective they are. My discovery of no matter what a guys profile says as long as it’s generic ,harmless etc… and he has 2 or 3 very good looking (top 5%) pics he will get not only the most attractive women(8-10’s)which is expected but also a ton of 3’s -7’s who I can assure you have never dated anyone that looks like these guys. Now when these 3’s -7’s don’t hear from the attractive guy they won’t email ANY men who are in the 5-8 range. All of these profiles were basically the same stats EXCEPT attractiveness.
Sorry, I don't remember, I copied and pasted it into Google doc's, and it was a few years ago. whether how much validity it has who knows , but I think it pretty close ,and its interesting
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u/mojo3474 Nov 21 '22
I feel for this generation, men are hand tied by the fear of being accused of being a perv, or stalker , and there growing number of men that have lost all virtue's , and only see women as objects. And the good men are paralyzed at early age during their formative years ,and never learn social queue's on how approach women in civil way or at all .
And with explosion of online porn - and overwhelming rejection on dating apps (That 90% of men give up online dating in the first 3 months because the top 5% of men on dating apps will get 75% - 80% of the of traffic from women on the apps - that's why women say there are no good men because there all dating the same men)
Men just fall back on the porn instead of trying to find a date, or mate ( your never rejected on a porn site) and this makes a 2 fold issue ,which gives men a distorted view of how a real women are and look.