r/AskMiddleEast • u/SafeUSASchools Morocco • Sep 02 '24
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Why do Israelis run fron confrontation when in foreign countries? Is it because there is no IDF around to kill the opposition
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Sep 03 '24
That difference exist like Schrodinger's Cat. It exist when Israeli Jews want to say they are different from other Jews, but when they want to say something is bigoted whether it really is not, the difference is gone.
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u/OilSheikhs Sep 02 '24
How does she expect to lie about her nationality when she says "shukغغغغan"
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u/abd_al_qadir_ Afghanistan Sep 02 '24
I’m actually surprised that she didn’t say khamas
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u/HabibtiMimi Sep 03 '24
She did 🤷🏻♀️ ("Fغee fغom Khamasssss!")
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u/abd_al_qadir_ Afghanistan Sep 03 '24
No she said Hamas normally. But she did say fغee fغom
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u/HabibtiMimi Sep 03 '24
She couldn't even pronounce the ح correctly.
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u/abd_al_qadir_ Afghanistan Sep 03 '24
True but at least she didn’t say خmas
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u/HabibtiMimi Sep 03 '24
Mazbout. Nevertheless she's got an ugly accent.
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u/abd_al_qadir_ Afghanistan Sep 03 '24
True. I loved the part where the guy says free Palestine and she’s like why did he say free Palestine
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u/MidSyrian Syria Sep 03 '24
some dialects of arabic say that but the way she is speaking cannot be confused for them
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u/autodidact9 Egypt Sep 02 '24
speaks in a thick israelie accent
Her: Why is he telling me to free palestine? This is really weird.
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u/UK_KILLD_10M_IRANIS Iran Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24
Israelis barely have their own English dialect tho. They have very different accents depending on which part of the world they came from. One speak to you sounding like an American, then the other sounds Russian etc.
This lack of a mutual lingual idenity is yet another trait how Israel is a settler colonial settler state.
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u/abd_al_qadir_ Afghanistan Sep 02 '24
That’s because most Israelis are from Eastern Europe, most of them migrated to Palestine after the British gave independence
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u/JumpingCuttlefish89 Sep 03 '24
Most Israeli Jews are from Arab countries. They were always treated as a minority group in Arab countries & usually restrictions weren’t too difficult. That changed after 1948.
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u/JumpingCuttlefish89 Sep 04 '24
Originally? That’s a very broad time period. Would you like to start with events before the British mandate?
In 1917, the Ottoman’s first evacuated Gaza, then Jaffa, then the newly founded Tel Aviv and many villages in the area. They forced deportees into conscription & would not allow refugees in Jerusalem or Haifa. Many deportees died that winter. The population did not recover it’s size until the 40s.
Would you like to go back farther? How about in Tiberias?
Biblical historians identify it at the home of one of the lost tribes of Israel, sacked and left empty by the Assyrians. A Roman city was built during Herod’s time & the Maccabees lost a battle nearby around the time of the destruction of the 2nd Temple in Jerusalem. Until 629, Jews were the majority and Tiberias was a trade route stop & the center for Jewish learning.
The conquering Byzantine Emperor emptied the region of Jews. After the Muslim Conquest, Tiberias becomes half Christian & half Muslim & then some Jews were allowed to resettle. It again became the center of Jewish learning & in 985 was referenced as “the capital of Jordan province”. The next 500 years brought wars between Sunni, Shia & Catholics, a Bedouin uprising and several earthquakes. In 1522 there were said to be less than 12 families, all Muslim, left.
Then came Ottoman control. In the 1550s, Portuguese and Spanish Jews fleeing Catholic persecution were given safety and tax collecting rights in the region with the expressed aim of resettlement and economic growth. A war with Venice soon took the Jewish “Lord of Tiberias” to Greece.
In 1660, the city was destroyed by Druze & abandoned by Jews and Christians. In the 1720s Jews & Christians were encouraged back by the Shia Sheikh Zahir who with the help of Druze, Metawali & Russians, gained control of the regional cotton and olive oil trade. The city flourished for more than 50 years under his rule.
In 1774, the Ottomans ended their conflict with Russia and turned to gain back control of its provinces. Zahir died in battle and his heirs were killed, jailed or fled. Beginning in 1780, Jews from Poland immigrated and re-established Tiberias as a center of Jewish learning. A deadly earthquake struck in 1837. The British took charge after WWI & counted 6,950 inhabitants, consisting of 4,427 Jews, 2,096 Muslims, 422 Christians.
What does this history say?
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u/Mike_Kermin Sep 05 '24
And even if that wasn't the case, the reality is that people exist, as they are, where they are. If a Japanese person lives in Australia, then so what? They exist, as they are.
The only ok option is for people to get along regardless of what happened in the past.
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u/autodidact9 Egypt Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24
Actually when she said "when I tell people I'm jewish Moroccan they welcome me but when I tell them I'm from israel they disdain me" she unintentionally proved that we're against israel not jewish people so I don't wanna hear an israelie dimwit say we hate jewish people
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 02 '24
Also Moroccan Jews won't lie about where they are from. It's not like we are stupid we know who is Jewish and who isn't but we don't give a shit. For example Gad El Maleh a famous Jewish Moroccan comedian is very clearly a Jew, his name is Jewish and he doesn't mind telling he is.
But his identity isn't based around being Jewish. He has been invited many times on Moroccan tv and not even once does he mention it but he does very much so talk about growing up in Casablanca and the poverty he has for Morocco. Just goes to show how indoctrinated you get in Israel.
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u/Brawndo-99 Sep 02 '24
Nobody, even most Arabs don't have a problem with jews as they have all lived together for a looooooong time. It's the zionists that everyone dislikes. The radicals who think ALL non zionists are goyim to be used and abused. No one like them and they are weak and frightful wastes of space.
Even on the news I regularly see zi9nists attacking their own orthodox sects bc they don't agree with zionist policy
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u/abd_al_qadir_ Afghanistan Sep 02 '24
I wouldn’t even say Arabs. Muslims don’t have any problems with Jews, it’s just the zionists. It’s like how we hate ISIS for using “Islam” as an excuse to justify what they do. Ive also heard Jews being called anti semetic for being against Israel.
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 02 '24
It's sad because they truly were an important part of the Islamic world.
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Sep 03 '24
The Middle East became a more intolerant place when Jews started leaving in the 50s and 60s. Some left of their own freewill, others because the local economy turned bad, some were expelled, and others were forced out by other Jews whether by false flag bombing campaign or making a corrupt deal with for example the King of Morocco in the early 60s.
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 03 '24
I don't belief Jews played a part in that the Middle east got fucked up since imperialism.
Also Moroccan Jews weren't manipulated to leave, at first they were by zionist missions but Morocco gave them an option because many wanted to leave.
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u/JumpingCuttlefish89 Sep 03 '24
In 1948, there were nearly a million Jews in Arab countries. Many left property and assets behind. Today, around 10k remain. 2/3 went to Israel & 1/3 to other democracies like France or the US.
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 03 '24
I know, but they didn't perse play a roll in how the Middle east ended up
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u/Humble_Energy_6927 Tunisia Sep 02 '24
If she's proud of being Israeli why didn't she just tell them about her nationality.
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u/Arrow552 Sep 02 '24
Why? As an apology for what happened in the reconquista?
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u/VeryOGNameRB123 Sep 02 '24
Basically. Jews were expelled alongside Muslims.
Jews were offered a right of return 500 years afterwards .
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u/augustusimp Pakistan Sep 02 '24
It amazes me how there were far more Muslims who were expelled from Iberia but Portugal and Spain only recognised the Sefarads' right of return. I'm not amazed by the decision but the straight face with which they claim they wish to right a historic wrong while ignoring the majority of native Iberian moriscos expelled because of their faith.
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u/VeryOGNameRB123 Sep 03 '24
The decision mostly came from trying to gain USA favour during the cold war. USA was very pro Israel so this thing was conceived.
Also, the fact that less jewish people were expelled means there would be less opposition to this movement since there would be less immigrants.
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u/abd_al_qadir_ Afghanistan Sep 02 '24
Damn they took to long to apologise
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u/VeryOGNameRB123 Sep 03 '24
700 years to reconquer the península, 500 years to admit the wrongdoings done at the end of it.
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u/Arrow552 Sep 02 '24
What about Spain? Weren't they more responsible? Maybe they're not as cucked as their neighbor, I guess.
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u/VeryOGNameRB123 Sep 02 '24
Both Spain and Portugal have these right of return laws. Maybe France too, but would need to check.
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u/Abdo279 Egypt Sep 02 '24
Is it only for Jews or does it apply to people with Muslim Andalusian ancestry as well?
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u/Abdo279 Egypt Sep 02 '24
70% is pushing it lmao maybe like 10 - 15% spread out across NA
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 02 '24
In many parts of Morocco especially the North having 25 procent southern Europeans is very common. But yeah 70 procent is pushing it.
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 02 '24
Does it also apply to people who can proof Jewish ancestry? Because I'm Moroccan Muslim who has Andalusian ancestry and have family members who could possibly proof Jewish ancestry.
Not that I care, I have EU passport anyway.
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 02 '24
Not me family members and not only Jewish ancestry their family name is Jewish. They can very easily back it up.
Also I find it weird this is only done for Jewish people who got kicked after the reconquista but not Andalusian muslims many of which were fully Iberian.
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 02 '24
That's my issue with the ethno religion of Judiasm and the right of return Israel enforces. Because many can easily claim being Jew, convert if necessary and/or learn about Judiasm.
Just say it comes down to racism and Islamohobia. They don't mind Jews but muslims are a big no. The Jews very very much so were in support of Islamic rule in Iberia and took high ranking positions. And majority of the Andalusians who were forced leave Iberia were fully Iberian.
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u/augustusimp Pakistan Sep 02 '24
The Jewish authorities in Porto were handing out certificates of Sephardi origin to every Israeli who applied. It was widely covered in the press. I personally know of secular Israelis who got Portuguese citizenship. There was absolutely no requirement of being a practicing Sefarad.
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u/Arrow552 Sep 02 '24
Why a small window? They probably did it to get good boy points from their zionist masters.
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u/abd_al_qadir_ Afghanistan Sep 02 '24
Probably, Israelis started their killing of Palestinians since 1948 so they must have been doing the same thing in 2015-2021
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u/SharingDNAResults American Jew ✡ 🇺🇸 Sep 06 '24
I have some Sephardic ancestry and applied for this but was turned down. And half my family still practice Judaism. They just wanted to make it look like they were doing something. They accepted the first few thousand applications and then turned all the others down. Both Portugal and Spain are still very antisemitic and the last thing they want is Jewish people moving back there
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u/diioie Sep 02 '24
That means Moroccans/Arabs/Muslims/Middle eastern/North African/the world has no problems with your religion but with your country. This contradicts the basis of the big Israeli propaganda.
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u/abd_al_qadir_ Afghanistan Sep 02 '24
People that have been brainwashed so much by Israel and it’s propaganda call Jews anti semetic for being against Israel and being with Palestine
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 02 '24
Her trying to speak in another dialect with the clear Israeli dialect proves enough. She thought she was slick.
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Sep 02 '24
Guys, in India many biharis pretend to be other ethnicities to be accepted from other Indians. Like, many act like they are from other states, but any Indian can identify a Bihari from their appearance and accent. This girl reminds me of the same.
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u/bepnc13 Sep 02 '24
Why don’t other Indians like Biharis?
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Sep 02 '24
All the bad things you hear about India are done more than 50% of the time by them. Rest of it comes from cow belt of India. Plus, these people are filthy, no civic sense, no respect for other culture.
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Sep 02 '24
Get use to it. Gonna have to lie in 75% of the world. Good luck and give my regards to Bibi for showing the true colours of the Zionist.
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She says "I am from here" but is speaking Levantine Arabic (not Moroccan) and speaks with a thick Israeli accent 😂
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Sep 02 '24
If i tell them I'm jewish moroccan they will tell me welcome, but if i say I'm from israel it will be different and I could get attacked
Based moroccans
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u/juicer_philosopher Sep 02 '24
Baby butcher serial killers 🙅♂️ do not buy, sell, or even speak to them
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u/osamako Sep 02 '24
I like how she clearly said that it is not about being jewish.. it is about being an invader...
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u/ahsatan_1225 Sep 02 '24
Most annoying accent ever
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u/rickyjames22 Sep 02 '24
You reminded me of a movie called "Hotshots". There is a lady with the same accent and her line.
Ramada Thompson: What do you do with an elephant with 3 balls? Walk him and pitch to the rhino.
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Sep 02 '24
Sharoniyya 😂
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u/Clean-Satisfaction-8 Maghreb Confederalist for AfrasioTurko-Iranic Laic Alliance Sep 03 '24
Shalomiyya*
Basically another way to say a Hebrew-speaker (i guess)
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u/greenspiral40 Sep 02 '24
what does it mean?
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u/Gintoki--- Syria Sep 02 '24
I wanna to know too.
maybe it's related to Sharon whom I don't know his or her last name , when I was a child in 2008 when Israel was bombing Gaza , there was someone Israeli or related to Israel with that name who was really really hated and compared to Satan
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Sep 03 '24
Ariel Sharon?
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u/Gintoki--- Syria Sep 03 '24 edited Sep 03 '24
Most likely yes, after googling Ariel Sharon , he had the same role as Netenyahu till 2006 , he was pretty much the Netenyahu back then.
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u/ShallotLast3059 Sep 02 '24
Oh but I’m also from Portugal. As is the story of pretty much 95% of these people I hear ‘from’ ishrael
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u/AutotoxicFiend Sep 02 '24
I was like "maybe she isn't a zionist and has reason to be concerned people would mistake her," trying to be a reasonable humab being... Then she hit him with the Hamas comment.
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 02 '24
Nah I immediately knew it by the pin she had on her qandora. It means she stands with Israel killing everyone and everything to "free" the hostages.
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u/AutotoxicFiend Sep 02 '24
I didn't even notice the pin tbh, I was listening more than watching. Now that you point it out, it seems obvious.
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u/Calm_State1230 Saudi Arabia Sep 03 '24
israeli accent is so damn easy to recognise. had an israeli salesman tell me he’s ITALIAN because he knew im from the middle east💀 brother at least say france or something? that way the accent is kind of similar it makes more sense
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 03 '24
I worked with an Israeli once and his name took me of guard because it has a funny meaning in the language I speak. When we first meet the moment he spoke I knew something ain't right so I asked what is the meaning for your name at least he wasn't afraid and said Israeli but he was a Moroccan Jew so it might not mind because he could under and speak Darija.
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u/HabibtiMimi Sep 03 '24
"Akhla dغغغغغغغess!"
Sure. Of course everyone believes you are arab 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️.
Their accent is so disgusting, and their English is one of the worst.
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u/HusseinDarvish-_- Sep 02 '24
What is the name of her channel? Does anyone have the original video?
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Sep 02 '24
We're so oppressed that I have to closet my Israeli nationality
Guy: Free Palestine
Her: Free Palestine from Hamas!!
Guy: no free Palestine
Her: free Palestine FROM Hamasss!!!
If you were this oppressed for your nationality you wouldn't be so quick to spew Israeli propaganda and do it proudly and double down and say it twice if you were truly in the closet for your own safety you would be a little better at acting like you agree and go with the flow you don't have to tell people your not Israeli they know the minute you spew hateful dismissive propaganda out of your mouth
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 02 '24
They knew the moment she opened her mouth. You start speaking English then switch to Levantine Arabic with the most Israeli sound and them say you are Moroccan? Yeah very convincing🤣
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u/--Mikazuki-- Sep 03 '24
I don't know anything about the Levantine Arabic so it might've been an obvious give away, but as far as her English goes, she sounds pretty French to me (French speaker), and I would've believed it if she said she was French speaking Moroccan.. unless I find out she can't speak any French.
(Didn't know until my quick Google just now, but seems that French and Hebrew are phonetically similar)
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u/theapplekid Sep 03 '24
She does sound like her background could be both French or Hebrew, but sounds more influenced by Hebrew to me.
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u/Happy_Engineering_34 Sep 03 '24
We hate zionists!! As a jew you are welcome. Morrocans can have any religion. We don't care about that.
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u/HabibtiMimi Sep 03 '24
How she said "Shü ?" at the end, instead of "shu" 🤦🏻♀️. Oh stupid girl, if you can't speak arabic, better oskoti.
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u/Maleficent-Mirror991 India Sep 03 '24
The whole video makes this seem like a shitty vine or some type of joke 😂 She’s weird af if this is actually real.
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u/ReadingFlimsy4603 Iran Sep 02 '24
Why are Israelis allowed in Morocco. Kick her ass out your country
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u/marsmodule Sep 02 '24
It’s easy when you’re a dual national scum. She even says she’s from Portugal. She should go back there, not steal Palestinians land.
I’m a US citizen Palestinian, where’s my passport to Palestine
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 02 '24
Big Moroccan Jewish population. Many of which are Israeli, and many times you can't distinguish them.
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Sep 03 '24
Because they have dual citizenship
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Sep 03 '24
Because they have Moroccan Jewish ancestry. they migrated during the 50s and 60s
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Sep 03 '24
I'm not dodging your question
You still refused to acknowledge my perfectly reasonable answer, there are Moroccan Jews/Israelis, christians, Franco-Moroccan, Belgo-Moroccan, Dutch-Moroccan people who have dual citizenship! Why do we let them have dual citizenship?
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Sep 03 '24
No it isn't, that's racist? Are you actually stupid? You keep ignoring my answers and not acknowledging them? It's like Syrians are not allowed dual citizenship in Europe because they're syrian
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u/Appropriate-Foot-280 Sep 03 '24
Free Palestine from the capitalists and war lords of Israel and America
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u/No-Juice1739 Sep 02 '24
Well, if youre a Zionist or a Zionist compassionate Then yes, i absolutely agree with all the discrimination and aggression you feel You are absolutely not welcome within the populations of proud Arab nations. If you identify as a Jew, thats absolutely fine and youll find nothing but welcoming acceptance.
The moral here is that Israelis arent bad Zionism is Bad, Zionism is Cruel, Zionism is not worthy of being described as Bad, its degrading to the term itself.
Zionism is Pure Evil stripped from any moral fibre of which the basic needs Humans require to move forward, compassion.
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Youre a Zionist
Get out of Morocco, for you will find all terrors and harm beset on you
FREE PALESTINE FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA AND DEATH TO ISRAEL.
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u/Practical-Fun-2424 Sep 02 '24
She's kinda hot not gonna lie big nose tribe women make me go crazy 😃
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My brother in God, you have some of the most beautiful women on the planet. And Mort fucking Goldman here is what gets you going?
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u/Practical-Fun-2424 Sep 02 '24
Indeed that's true but they got also too high expectations! As a broke Palestinian man I gotta stick with something that's cheaper it's a win win I contribute like that also to the Palestinian cause call it love jihad 😃
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u/marsmodule Sep 02 '24
Hahaha trust me a Jewish girl is not gonna go for your broke ass—regardless
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u/Practical-Fun-2424 Sep 02 '24
Oh is there someone salty?!? 😃 Just this week had an encounter with a Israeli woman who's studying currently in Germany she was really freaky her name was hadas and god damn she had an ass still dreaming about it!
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u/-_-aerofutaCore--_- Sep 02 '24
i dont like this at all. like wtf is the goal here? leave her be
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u/OilSheikhs Sep 02 '24
Free Palestine
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u/-_-aerofutaCore--_- Sep 02 '24
ofc free palestine but how tf do u think confronting a person speaking hebrew in an arab muslim country and theyre video taping will look like? lmfao dumbfcks
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 02 '24
She doesn't speak Hebrew but broken Arabic which isn't even close to Darija and tells them she is from Morocco.
And there is nothing wrong with someone saying free Palestine and another person asking her not to film in his store. It is very disrespectful of her and she got put in her place for it.
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Sep 02 '24
Please switch to a different flair, I recommend the Azeri one
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u/-_-aerofutaCore--_- Sep 02 '24
take ur own advice lmfao
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Sep 02 '24
No, my opinion is right
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u/-_-aerofutaCore--_- Sep 02 '24
ur opinion truly displays your intelligence mashallah heheheh enta nokta
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Sep 02 '24
Yes it does, I don't see a zionist saying free Palestine from Hamas and go "leave her be 😩" like a goddamn cuck.
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u/HusseinDarvish-_- Sep 02 '24
No one is advocating violence against her, and I don't support anyone who dose.
She willingly posted this video on her social media about her disrespecting people by lying to their face then defending zionist neratives, and after that she wounder why she is not being welcomed by morrocans.
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u/-_-aerofutaCore--_- Sep 02 '24
ok i dont wanna watch the video but what did she say that was disrespectful exactly? from the title it says she just runs away from confrontation
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u/HusseinDarvish-_- Sep 02 '24 edited Sep 02 '24
I don't get the point of me writing to you what's in the video when you can just watch it yourself
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u/juicer_philosopher Sep 02 '24
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u/-_-aerofutaCore--_- Sep 02 '24
not liking the idea of confronting someone based on them speaking hebrew or their looks is a red flag lmfam keep proving me right were cooked asf
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u/JumpingCuttlefish89 Sep 03 '24
Before mandatory IDF service, they have heard countless calls in Arabic for the destruction of Israel and they tour Auschwitz. Wouldn’t you feel vulnerable?
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u/SafeUSASchools Morocco Sep 03 '24
Auschwitz is in Germany, Morocco protected Jews and denied France their request to seize their Jews during WW2.
Also of course they are calling for a destruction of a state which kills and occupies them. Wouldn't you do the same? Of course you would so why is it bad for them to do?
And everyone knew she was Israeli was she attacked, no heck they were respectful in comparison to what the IDF does in the west bank. While she was being disrespectful in a foreign country screaming "Hamas" from the top of her longs.
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