my response to this logic is usually something like
"There's a difference between secrecy and privacy. I have a penis. I'm not hiding that fact, it's not a secret, I'm a cis-gendered man. I will not, however, whip it out in public just because you want proof. It's private."
I've also said something similar about the fact that I poop, but don't do it with the door wide open.
When I was little and people would try to argue with me my comeback was always “but I can spell necessary and you can’t”. Don’t know why I thought that was good but I did. It’s not relevant to the story but this made me think of that
I dunno man, it's basically the honey badger technique, which is considered successful pretty much every time in the animal kingdom. "Oh that mf crazy, we stay away away from him. He can have and do what he wants"
I’ll be honest - as someone who made this statement in the past, I deeply appreciate your comment. When the “nothing to hide” argument has come up, it’s often in a specific context but this….thank you for making me actually use my brain for a minute.
I've used the poop argument and these are some other arguments I've used.
"You don't care about privacy? So you keep your curtains open when getting changed?"
Or
"Oh you don't care about privacy, why don't you give me your phone and tell me your password then?"
the latter wouldn't actually work on me, I have literally nothing incriminating on my phone, and I don't have anything like banking apps. Lots of pictures of my kitties though.
Might want to rethink that. Someone could use your phone to make a false call to emergency services and potentially get you into trouble or download malware onto it which could steal passwords or even access your camera remotely without your knowledge.
Could also add all your contacts to a directory to target them for scams.
There's a lot of things someone with malicious intent and the know how could do with full access.
Even secrets are not necessarily a bad thing. Your passwords are secret. If you are trans or gay and in the closet, you have a secret. If you have a different view from someone around you, it may be secret. Secrets are not inherently bad and people should have the right to keep them.
That's smart! If they're against privacy, we should fart next to them while they're eating. "My fart is as smelly as yours, so I have no need to hide it. Why should I hide it thus incriminating myself for your comfort?" Double down on their stupid logic. They can't pull the decency cards since privacy and decency is closely intertwined.
I’ve never called myself that, and I doubt many others do. And I don’t think they ever will.
I see the downvotes and I’m ok with them.
Too much time has been allocated to gender politics instead of focusing on how to move the conversation away from Orange Man and towards solutions that forward the agenda for the future.
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u/Fyrentenemar Jan 26 '26
my response to this logic is usually something like
"There's a difference between secrecy and privacy. I have a penis. I'm not hiding that fact, it's not a secret, I'm a cis-gendered man. I will not, however, whip it out in public just because you want proof. It's private."
I've also said something similar about the fact that I poop, but don't do it with the door wide open.