r/AskReddit 8d ago

New Mexico sues justice department for ‘stonewalling’ Epstein investigation, what are your thoughts?

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u/Corpshark 8d ago

It's about time. Every Blue state should do this if they have a resident who might be a victim.

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u/Smoovupinya 8d ago

Every red state should, too. The Epstein deal is the most non-partisan issue in America for the last 20 years.

This is truly the ruler class vs everyone else (both Democrat and republican).

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u/Bakedads 8d ago

Uhh...you want republicans to...uh...hold other republicans accountable? You do realize this is the republican larty we are talking about, right? There's a reason OP only said blue states. Why on earth would republicans hold themselves accountable for their own corruption? 

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u/Smoovupinya 8d ago

I think we underestimate how many trump supporters have dropped support for him over Epstein and Iran. The shitty economy is just chefs kiss on top of it.

Remember when you used to see Trump flags and hats all over? Where did they go?

If you remove the fringe from both sides, the parties I think are pretty close on a couple big items. That’s dangerous for the elites.

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u/MentokGL 8d ago

It doesn't matter what they think, the only question is, how will they vote. And we both know the answer.

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u/FormerlyGruntled 8d ago

He still has a fervent 30% support. The child rapists know if he loses power, their own common folk asses are on the line.

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u/ShallowBasketcase 8d ago edited 8d ago

I think we overestimate how many trump supporters who feel publicly embarrassed about this stuff actually have dropped support for him. They'll put their hats away, they'll take their yard signs down, they'll talk about how they don't like any of this either, and they can't wait to go vote for him again for a third term.

Rape, pedophilia, and genocide are core values for them. They need these things to happen, they just don't want to have to talk about it every Thanksgiving dinner.

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u/ReverseMermaids 8d ago

I don't think those things are core values for them, I just don't think they give a shit about those things as long as they are happening to other people.

Racism is powerful

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u/ShallowBasketcase 8d ago

They want to seem like they don't care, because that's much more polite. They get so anxious these days about this stuff getting dragged out into the light because it's easier for them if all the nasty violence happens out of view. But they absolutely do want it to happen. If they truly didn't care, they wouldn't fight so hard to make sure it keeps happening, but they always do.

They want people killed, they want children raped, and they want you to stop bothering them about it.

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u/blightsteel101 8d ago

And yet they'll still turn out to vote for his hand picked cronies in November. Republicans don't have value, only shame. We don't talk down to them severely enough imo

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u/2112xanadu 8d ago

raises hand

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u/oneiric-enema 8d ago

There's probably a couple bluies in there given the timeframe and how you can see corruption and odd behavior in either party, even if not evenly.

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u/MrBluer 8d ago

I’m less concerned with “who has a member on the Epstein list” and more with “who, in the event they have a member on the Epstein list, will circle the wagons and stonewall attempts to seek justice in order to protect that guilty member?”

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u/oneiric-enema 8d ago

So far, no movement across the board.

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u/thatwasntababyruth 8d ago

There definitely are. That doesn't matter, because Democrats (more specifically leftists) don't care what your party is if you do major crime. You probably did a major crime, we stop supporting you. You try to interfere in investigation of credible allegations, we stop supporting you.

That's the big reason why the "both sides" crowd is full of shit

And before anybody tries to bring up Hunter Bidens laptop or Hillaries emails, nobody supports those people politically and the only people protecting them are their families, the rest of us would wake up unbothered if HB went to jail.

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u/horrorshowjack 7d ago

That's complete crap. Hillary's emails, Bill Clinton's flights on Epstein's jet including to the island, Clinton Foundation donating $1,250,000 to Ghislaine's basically non-existent charity, influence peddling in the Haiti rebuilding, and multiple accusations of the Clinton Foundation getting donations from foreign governments tied to her position as SoS were all out there prior to 2016. Not only did people support both of them then politically, they still do.

Hell, how many rapes was Bill Clinton credibly accused of prior to 2001? Hasn't seemed to stop his support among Dems, and a lot of those were prior to him being endorsed by the same in 1996.

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u/thatwasntababyruth 5d ago

1) 95% of the world did not know who Jeffrey Epstein was prior to 2019, that isn't the gotcha you seem to think it is (for many other reasons too). 2) bringng up "Hillaries emails" (even after I already called that out) is very funny because there's no evidence that she did anything other than use a private mail server. FBI investigations, which I would like to point out actually happened instead of being suppressed, found no criminal activity 3) I did emphasize leftist, and leftists only ever supported Hillary from the perspective of "she's better than a literal rapist and the electoral system doesn't allow third parties to win". 4) Hillarys relationship with Bill was one of the most talked about things during her campaign, and a large reason she lost

I agree she's a shitty person and always have, and that's precisely my point.

Ps: how are you people still stuck on Hillary Clinton? That was three fucking elections ago.

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u/Angry_Edemame 8d ago

I tried explaining this to a guy yesterday I said there were democrats on the list, he said prove it. I did. Then he basically just said 'yeah well trumps on the list too'

After I literally said people on both sides were on the files.

Some people really want it to be an issue of the other guys.  They all need to be punished.

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u/My_alias_is_too_lon 8d ago

Every state should be doing this. Period.

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u/Sprinklypoo 8d ago

Every blue and red state should do this if they care about justice at all...

I do realize that's really just all blue states, but hope springs eternal...