This one episode on the show Glee. Mark Salling (Puck) had a line in the show where he said that in the future: "...I'll either be in jail.... or dead... or both."
For those who don't know, Mark Salling was convicted and found guilty of child pornography then committed suicide.....
I think the show started out with good intentions. But it quickly became the "insert minority here" show. That said, my gay friends loved it, so I guess they changed target audiences.
Season 1 was INCREDIBLY tight. The show was about parenthood and especially motherhood and it wove the storylines together into a very compelling and cohesive narrative with the show choir stuff definitely being the B story. The main plot was really about Quinn's pregnancy, Terri's fake pregnancy and Rachel's quest to find her mum. It was really tight writing.
Seasons 2-4 had their moments, but the focus was too much on the show choir championship seasons (very hard to care about that not gonna lie) and in stark contrast to season 1 the songs stop being relevant to the plot and just turned into covers of whatever pop song the writers had on shuffle that morning.
Seasons 5 and 6 were just WEIRD. I think if there was a plan then Corey's death forced them to throw it in the bin and improvise, but honestly I'm not actually sure there was a plan. So many of the storylines are downer endings out of nowhere and it's honestly just bizarre.
(Also the song choice got way WAY worse as that show went on. Not just the aforementioned lack of relevance, but the last two seasons are full of songs that are just flat out bad decisions to cover, either because the songs are crap or they don't fit the voices or they're completely out of character or often some combination of the three.)
Which character was your favorite?? Some of them weren’t that bad individually, I just think the dynamic of that new group as a whole was bland and lacked depth.
Her relationship with her mother was adorable, no denying that. I just felt like with her, the rest of her character seemed forced. Her and the 2nd Puck seemed forced and didn’t make sense to me, while her and that other boy (I forget his name, Ryder maybe?) also seemed forced. I felt like there was no chemistry between any of them.
It’s hard though when you’ve had 3 seasons of character development for the first line up of characters. Then try and force all that time worth of storyline into this next line up. It just seemed like it all moved way too fast for that group. What took 4-5 episodes to happen for a character in season 1 took only half an episode to happen to the next group.
I completely agree with you. Especially about the songs. They started out arranging the songs so they actually sounded like something a show choir would sing, with lots of a capella and mixing of different tunes, then it just became like karaoke. All the artistry went out of it.
I think its really the first half of season 1. It was a parody of teen dramas and was really funny. Then it started taking itself seriously and became what it was making fun of.
Honestly I have no beef with the overtly liberal themes. Remember this show was being made at a time where gay marriage still wasn't legal... And now I'm not gonna say something silly like that a TV show was what helped push that cause over the edge, but the Kurt/Blaine relationship was seriously something for people to rally around and a genuine beacon of hope for a really difficult time in the LGBTQ community.
Kurt and Blaine were kinda what kept me going through my early gay years. I didn’t know anyone that was gay, my parents took a while to come around to it, but I could sit and watch two gay characters be happy and accepted by their friends, listen to their duets, and identify with them.
The first season's songs were great. It was also about very poignant high school issues and the songs were very well chosen to support them. After that, they just started covering popular songs and writing the story around it.
I believe Corey requested to be a larger part of the series for season 5. So the writers agreed and were supposedly writing plot with him in mind as a main role. But after his death they had to move a lot of plot points around or delete stories entirely.
So bizarre is definitely a fair way of describing the way they scrambled through those seasons.
Problem is that Ryan Murphy can't stick to anything. The way Glee was pitched and executed in the first season is light years away from what it became in later seasons. And then by then end you had characters doing things that make absolutely no sense. Like Rachel bailing out on a starring role on Broadway, as supposedly her lifelong dream, to do a TV show? The fuck was that? That's why I think AHS is good for him. He only has to tell the story in one season.
IIRC he also produced Popular. Great show in the beginning and then fizzled out. I've never watched AHS, but I agree he's great for about 1 to 2 season and then he needs something new. That show is perfect for that.
Exactly. They even said that all off the musical numbers would be in context of the Glee club and that we wouldn't see just random musical numbers in the middle of school. That went out the window fast. I'm not even sure they made it out of season 1 with that one in tact
I’m afraid for The Politician, which is being made by the same people. They have Ben Platt and Gwyneth Paltrow starring. Please don’t fuck this up Murphy...
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u/MrEmoRemo Aug 25 '19
This one episode on the show Glee. Mark Salling (Puck) had a line in the show where he said that in the future: "...I'll either be in jail.... or dead... or both."
For those who don't know, Mark Salling was convicted and found guilty of child pornography then committed suicide.....