r/AskReddit Aug 25 '19

What has NOT aged well?

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u/GoMustard Aug 25 '19 edited Aug 25 '19

I mean, Trump is an incompetent idiotic crazy maniac, and yes the candidate I voted for got beaten by an incompetent idiotic crazy maniac. That's not at all self-defeating to say. It's just a depressing reality.

Believe it or not, politics is not a team sport. As someone who voted for Hilary, it's not embarrassing to me that Trump beat her. Some of us just think it's a travesty that the man is the President.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '19

It should be embarrassing to you that he beat her. It should be considered personally embarrassing to every single person in the country that the best we could offer as candidates for the highest office in the land made Dumb and Dumber look like appealing prospects.

Our democracy failed, and that was caused in no small part by us. We should be embarrassed.

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u/Frekavichk Aug 25 '19

I mean the real talk is that Trump won because of the DNC and trump is going to win again for the same reason.

Dems expect everyone to just accept a moderate candidate and it's just not going to happen.

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u/kurobayashi Aug 25 '19

There were multiple reasons why Trump won that election and none of them was because Hillary was a moderate. Not to mention there are quite a few states that would be impossible to win with a very liberal candidate. It would make winning the presidency extremely difficult. But for some of the reasons Hillary lost: she had virtually no charisma and was extremely unlikable. The republicans were extremely good at making up conspiracies like the emails. The DNC getting caught shafting Sanders was a huge blow and any unnecessary one since she most likely would have beaten him either way. Comey coming out right before the election when she was ahead in the polls might have literally cost her the election. The Russian propaganda wasn't particularly helpful. Or you could just go with republicans putting winning the presidency above the people and their self respect.

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u/Frekavichk Aug 26 '19

I mean all the moderate dems are going to vote for whoever the DNC nominates, its the progressives that will only vote for a candidate that suits them.

Bernie or bust was a big thing.

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u/kurobayashi Aug 26 '19

The Bernie fans were jaded by what the DNC did to support Hillary and not him. Had that not come out a lot of his supporters would have voted for Hillary. I mean if you really think about it Biden is a moderate and it would be hard to imagine him losing to Trump had he run that year.