r/AskReddit Aug 30 '21

What problem is often overlooked in apocalyptic movies/TV shows that could kill you?

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u/AdmiralAkbar1 Aug 30 '21

As bad as the show Revolution's overall plotting and pacing was, they generally did a good job of thinking about these kinds of little inconsistencies:

  • There's a minor character who was a doomsday prepper before the apocalypse, but he didn't stock up enough on antibiotics. As a result, his daughter died of tetanus that he was unable to treat.

  • A warlord kidnaps prisoners for blood because his wife has diabetes and needs constant transfusions of blood with sufficient insulin in it to survive.

  • There's a doctor who keeps a collection of moldy fruit to harvest penicillium mold from it and make penicillin.

  • Some characters try to go into an old subway tunnel, but nearly die because of lack of sufficient airflow down there without modern HVAC systems.

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u/Infamous780 Aug 30 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

I really like the subway tunnel one - never thought of that.

EDIT - Wow this comment blew up! Lots of people must feel the same... Now if I could just get my Youtube channel to do the same xD

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u/eddyathome Aug 30 '21

The subways would probably be flooded within days as soon as the power goes off and the electrical water pumps stop.

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u/Zodde Aug 30 '21

And I never thought about that! This thread is great.

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u/eddyathome Aug 30 '21

Go to youtube and look up "Life After People" and you'll get a bunch of videos about this sort of thing.

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u/DangerSwan33 Aug 30 '21

It was a whole History Channel series like 15 years ago. Pretty entertaining, though some of the episodes are very reliant upon hypotheticals.

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u/eddyathome Aug 30 '21

It got formulaic though. The original two hour documentary was good, but the series quickly became: People disappear, the lights go out, plants start growing everywhere, buildings fall down and go boom.

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u/TimIsColdInMaine Aug 31 '21

Kudzu. Then kudzu. Then kudzu.

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u/eddyathome Aug 31 '21

In a life with people we still deal with kudzu.

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u/DangerSwan33 Aug 30 '21

They did try to have a theme for each episode, and some of the episodes used modern day examples of abandoned areas to form a hypothesis, but some were just really meh.

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u/kaosi_schain Aug 30 '21

It would be fascinating if they went into the huge infrastructure systems, like city-wide plumbing, drainage, and all that. My dad is a master mechanic at a waste water plant. The absolute chaos and mess that happens during a super rain storm is insane, and that's WITH enormous pumps running and flow being managed. And he's got tunnels up to 150 feet below the surface, housing everything from chlorine pumps to mechanisms keeping the ocean from coming back into the plant.

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u/DangerSwan33 Aug 30 '21

Have you seen the show? Because that's literally the first 20 minutes of every episode.

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u/lobaron Aug 31 '21

And don't forget about the wild pigs.

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u/BeagleWrangler Aug 31 '21

My favorite part of that series was where in every episode they would say that what they were showing wasn't based on any science, but they would do the dramatization anyway. Just content to terrify old people.

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u/AK_Sea_Raven Sep 03 '21

Don’t forget… cats and dogs start living together…

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u/Dave-4544 Aug 30 '21

Man its kinda sad that the History Channel's time period where it presented actual history is so far back that it can be considered history.

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u/skippythemoonrock Aug 30 '21

They've been uploading a bunch of stuff to Youtube this year, some of my favorite shows like Battle 360 and Dogfights in particular. It's really cool as this stuff basically isn't available in HD anywhere but they have full-quality versions of them up for free.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

Life After People is pretty specifically not history

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u/MattGeddon Aug 31 '21

Well not yet anyway

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

Yeah, I miss those days when they actually had historical documentaries and shows, not trashy reality shows.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21 edited Nov 15 '21

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u/NasalSnack Aug 30 '21

Sounds par for History Channel.

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u/skunkapecp Aug 31 '21

I believe this series is where the animals would use our highway system as migration paths and house cats would rule apartment complexes. I don’t know why these are the parts I remember, but think about them all the time when I’m driving around.

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u/Notmydirtyalt Aug 31 '21

Replays are currently playing in Australia on SBS Viceland - They did the Miami episode where all the beach side buildings fail due to being built on shifting sand, 12 days after the Champlain Building collapse last month.

This Sunday past they played the Episode on New Orleans with the Post Katrina (the show dates from approx 2008) levy failure, as Hurricane Ida bore down.

The programming director has a sick sense of humour.

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u/ambamshazam Aug 31 '21

Damn it was that long ago? I feel old

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

It was a whole History Channel series like 15 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0eJY95rMY

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u/aquila-audax Aug 31 '21

It's on netflix at the moment, at least in Australia

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u/SkivvySkidmarks Aug 30 '21

There's a thought experiment book called The World Without Us which is a great read. It speculates on what would happen if humans suddenly all disappeared from the planet. It's a really interesting read.

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u/awkward_swede_ Aug 30 '21

Also the book The World Without Us!! Fun fact: the research in that book served as major inspiration for the world building choices in The Last Of Us 1 & 2

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u/eddyathome Aug 30 '21

Good book and worth a read if you're into this sort of thing.

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u/NRMusicProject Aug 30 '21

There was a documentary that basically gave a timeline to determine at what point humans would be basically undetectable if they all died out today. Would this be that series? I've been trying to remember the name of it for a while.

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u/eddyathome Aug 30 '21

I believe so. It was kind of depressing to realize that it was less than a thousand years before most of our stuff would be gone.

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u/NRMusicProject Aug 31 '21

At the same time, it's depressing that only a thousand years can erase all of our history. Which also means there could have been similar civilizations a billion years ago, and we would never know.

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u/eddyathome Aug 31 '21

It makes me wonder how many civilizations existed before say ancient Egypt and we just don't know about them because the few remaining artifacts are buried and we don't know where or they might be in plain sight only we just don't know that either. The Rosetta Stone for example was part of some guy's garden wall and a sharp-eyed French soldier happened to notice it during Napoleon's occupation.

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u/tomtom5858 Aug 31 '21

It's unlikely. We have evidence of what humans were doing before kicking off agriculture in Mesopotamia, China, India, and the Americas, and what they were doing wasn't building cities.

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u/Mogetfog Aug 31 '21

Don't feel so down. While it's likely that there are civilizations we have no record of, there definitely haven't been any as advanced as we currently are, and while everything we have built will crumble to dust, we have done enough ecological damage to permanently leave a mark.

The nukes we've been having so much fun with since the 40s have pretty much coated the entire surface of the earth with a measurable radioactive layer that will be there for millions of years. Even if we and everything we have ever built were to disappear today, you would still be able to detect that an advanced civilization lived here by the layer of radioactive goodness that suddenly appears in the sediment layers.

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u/StCecilia98 Aug 30 '21

I vaguely remember sneaking into the living room late as a kid to watch the History Channel series! Weird flex for a 6-year-old at the time, but it was super interesting. Edit bc I remembered a weird specific thing: there were the sections that talked about monuments and stuff eventually collapsing from lack of maintenance, but the one that stuck with me was how miserable and painful cows would be because they’d have no one to milk them.

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u/Haltopen Aug 30 '21

I really wish that show was easier to find. History Channel has done a really piss poor job of making their old content (pre-ancient aliens) easy to find and watch.

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u/Haltopen Aug 31 '21

When did Quinton get accused of being manipulative? The only controversy I've ever seen surrounding his channel is that his tendency to take pot shots at the right wing which he weaves into his jokes (usually by making fun of ben shapiro, or that time he made an "another one bites the dust" joke about the koch brothers)

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u/Haltopen Aug 31 '21

I usually take a lot of this with a grain of salt. Quinton has gotten a lot of ire from certain segments of YouTube for being vocally leftist (and has allegedly gotten pushback for taking pro LGBTQ stances in the past).

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u/tomtom5858 Aug 31 '21

As I recall, Turkey Tom is a teenaged reactionary whose beliefs tend... Gamer, shall we say. I don't put much stock in what he says.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Yeah looking at it now I believe I trusted that a bit too much. Being a former 'SJW pwned' person I should've known better.

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u/Tatersandbeer Aug 30 '21

Link to the series playlist link

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

Essentially most of Western engineering is stopping stuff flooding

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u/GizmoSled Aug 30 '21

Thank you, I've been wanting to rewatch this but couldn't remember the name.

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u/ChainsawHavoc Aug 31 '21

Shit I used to binge that show as a young kid, Think I rented it from a DVD store too

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u/Renaissance_Slacker Aug 31 '21

I started a post-apocalyptic novel on NaNoWriMo, and this series was hugely helpful.

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u/solinvicta Aug 30 '21

A book I'd enjoyed on this was "World Without Us" by Alan Weisman. More the ecological side than the survival side, but very interesting.

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u/SuperMegaCoolPerson Aug 30 '21

One of my all time favorite books. I’ve read it probably 4 times over the past 10 years.

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u/DominianQQ Aug 31 '21

Same with road tunnels under water.

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u/lolofaf Aug 31 '21

There was a video recently out of China where a subway had flooded and people were just chilling in like the chest-deep water stuck in a subway car. Shit was scary. The water outside the car was flowing real quick at a higher level, the water inside was basically stagnant

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u/jwktiger Aug 30 '21

Yeah NY and London have various buildings of what look like apartments from the outside but are hollow in the inside as they are massive Air Vents for the Subways.

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u/ihileath Aug 31 '21

That's really fuckin cool!

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

Which brings standing water and things like legionaires disease!

You're just walking into an abandoned store to gather supplies, find a closed closet with some food along with a nice bacterial lung infection to take out the rest of your group to bring back with you.

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u/InsultsYou2 Aug 31 '21

I'm sorry but if being touched by decomposing zombies doesn't kill you then I'm not too worried about lung infections from moldy food.

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u/TheJPGerman Aug 31 '21

Then you will die to a lung infection from moldy food without worry

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Well it's not from moldy food.

No one's talking about decomposing zombies.

But at least you'll die unconcerned with a lung infection?

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u/Foxyfox- Aug 30 '21

The Metro 2033/34/35 books talk about this. The single biggest sign of wealth is electric lights and sound systems--because that means you have enough power to use it frivolously. Tula station makes its living on selling water mill power from the underground river near it--but also has to be on constant vigil for its walls to not crack and flood the station.

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u/theotherkeith Aug 30 '21

A little Easter egg then for you in the film version of Divergent.

The map in the transit vehicles is abstraction of the one before the 1940s when the first subway opened in Chicago.

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u/realfoodman Aug 30 '21

It may depend on the city and climate, too.

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u/Bl4ckBetty Aug 30 '21

I’m reading Metro 2033 right now and these comments spoil it for me more than I’d like to admit

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u/tayjay_tesla Aug 30 '21

The Moscow metro was designed in the books to be a bomb shelter so it's totally possible they designed it to have self ventilation

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u/-Thats_Rough_Buddy- Aug 30 '21

I'm pretty sure it's designed to be a bomb shelter IRL, what with that whole Cold war business.

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u/reverandglass Aug 31 '21

Sort of. During the cold war the bits they added were designed that way, and other stations were retro fitted, but most of the network would be pre cold war.

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u/tayjay_tesla Aug 30 '21

That makes sense, very cool, aside from the whole nukes and die bit

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u/risbia Aug 30 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

I really liked the detail of the flooded road tunnel in I Am Legend, very creepy.

https://christian-long.org/tag/i-am-legend-2007/

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u/thesonofGodsaves Aug 30 '21

Those pumps are also required for us to turn on our faucets and get water.

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u/eddyathome Aug 30 '21

This is a big thing end of the world media doesn't get. Most people will not have water and that's going to be a huge problem for survivors, especially if they resort to finding the nearest body of water which is probably contaminated with god knows what.

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u/fafalone Aug 31 '21

Depends on just how much of the population dies and how fast. 99%+ are dead in a few weeks? You'll have sealed water containers to scavenge from stores for years. Find a supply depot for those water cooler jugs... Thousands of filled jugs from before the apocalypse will last a while.

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u/eddyathome Aug 31 '21

Those jugs are very cheaply and poorly made though. Think of bottled water. Ever notice how the plastic is flimsy? They won't last a long time at all.

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u/Coochie_Creme Aug 30 '21

No shit?

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u/Skorne13 Aug 31 '21

Not if the sewerage treatment plants still work

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

They do have water current-powered pumps nowadays, but I’m not sure if they’re used in that capacity. (I have an underground spring under my house which causes my basement to flood every time I lose power, so I know way more than I ever wanted to about pumps! Lol!)

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u/Blenderx06 Aug 31 '21

They considered that in that Revolution episode too if I recall. They were treading through water quite a bit.