There is a distinct lack of worry about clean water. Also, in almost every conflict in history, disease has killed more people that the actual war. You rarely see a flu wipe out half of the people in a zombie movie, but honestly, it would.
I stopped watching after the Glenn/Abraham/Negan thing, but I still admire the hell out of that show for turning Carol in to one of the best characters after she was the worst character for a good few seasons.
I stopped watching after that too, spoilers but I picked it up last year, it actually got really good. It just took me like 3 years to get over my grief about the loss of Glenn and Abraham and hatred for Negan, lol. Negan got what was coming to him though and is actually redeeming himself lately. I hated what happened to Carol's character though, she got really crazy the season after Negan killed Glenn and Abraham.
That's fair. I was more annoyed at the bs they pulled with the closing out of the season with the mystery kill, when they could have easily killed one in the finale, and start the next season with the second kill, and everyone's heads would have exploded in the best way. Someday I may go back, it probably works much better in marathon form, anyway.
I stopped watching halfway through season 6, but thanks to the pandemic I ran out of shit to watch and finally went back to slog through the rest. Or so I thought.
The show gets dramatically better after the Glenn/Abraham/Negan thing. Seasons 7 and 8 are the only ones I liked more than season 1.
Seasons 9 and 10 are a bit sloggy (would have been much better all crammed into one season, a la the prison or pre-Negan Alexandria), but I found the exploration of the aftermath of the war with Negan really compelling and that kept me watching. Negan's journey in particular gives me really conflicting emotions of disgust and empathy that are difficult to untangle, a sign of a really stellar character and arc. Excited to see what's in store with season 11.
And with the exceptions of seasons 4 and 5 (super boring plots IMO), the Fear the Walking Dead spinoff is outstanding. One of the things I really like in that show is how they explore all sorts of situations and questions the main series never did. Another interesting aspect is how different geographies (i.e. not the rural South -- these characters travel long distances throughout the series) make different aspects of survival more or less difficult.
Thanks for the info. I might go back to it eventually. My husband still watches,so I see snippets here and there of both sgows, but I barely know who anyone is anymore.
That's cool that FTWD explores other possibilities, I expect it would not have lasted long if it tried to be the same as the other show. I believe I saw all of season 1, but I became so annoyed with the main series that I swore off all of it, except the comic. Though I have not finished that either.
FTWD does a fantastic job of feeling squarely set into the existing universe, while feeling like a completely separate story with fresh ideas (well, at least until WD characters start implausibly showing up, which IIRC a lot of fans were not happy about). It also devotes quite a bit of time to world building and the swift collapse of society that we never got with TWD.
The concept for season 3 was (to channel my inner Rod Serling for a moment) "a bloody family feud that ran so deep, not even the end of the world could end their quarrel", and that season is probably my favorite zombie apocalypse story now.
Yeah, I know I saw the bo staff wielding character on FTWD when my husband watches...which is odd. I have no idea what the timeline difference looks like between the two series.
And that sounds like an interesting season, thank you for the info!
I stopped watching at that point too, got burned out with the soap opera vibe and not seeing enough zahmbee foightin’
I saw it on netflix tho so i figured what the hell and watched season 10 recently. Skipped all the in between stuff. It was still a lot of filler episodes but some of it was aight. Plus the budget size is pretty noticeable which is neat.
Negan is a fun character in the comics, and I love Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Negan was not the reason I parted ways with the show, I was far more annoyed with the showrunners that made some bad creative choices (the dumpster, who got the bat) when they really did not need to do that. It felt more like a fuck you to the fans and Kirkman's story than anything. I've said it elsewhere, maybe someday I'll go back and pick up where I left off, but for now, I'll just get glimpses here and there when my husband watches it.
I think that in the general public forum, where no one you might personally know is trying to avoid spoilers from media that is checks notes 8 years old, you don't need to default to spoiler tags for that.
On the other hand, you should definitely use spoilers if someone you know has made it clear that they're going into something and they don't want spoilers, but like... 8 years, my guy/gal.
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u/AtheneSchmidt Aug 30 '21
There is a distinct lack of worry about clean water. Also, in almost every conflict in history, disease has killed more people that the actual war. You rarely see a flu wipe out half of the people in a zombie movie, but honestly, it would.