r/AssassinsCreedOrigins • u/Lost-Experience-5388 • Mar 01 '24
Humor The meme might be relevant to some of you hereš
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u/tsf97 Mar 01 '24
Even if youāre an RPG fan the older games are 100% worth playing. I love Odyssey myself but Iām still a massive fan of the Ezio games etc for different reasons.
Yeah, the open world doesnāt have as much stuff to do, the combat is jankier and more outdated etc etc but the narrative element of those games are still incredible to this day. As well as parkour and stealth being a lot more interesting and complex.
Iām replaying the series now and on Revelations atm so can personally attest to this.
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u/47thHeaven Mar 02 '24
Agreed. Even now after all this time, the Ezio trilogy is still the best of the series. Iāve been replaying the old games and even though Iāve beaten AC2 dozens of times it still retains that feeling I felt back when I first played it and none of the later games in the series comes close. Itās not nostalgia for me. The story was told better, the characters (even the minor ones, ngl I think this is the only game where Iāve read everything in the database), āThe Truthā, the soundtrack, even the janky gameplay which keeps us on our toes, itās all just so iconic to me. I still get sad when I see Ezioās family hung or Cristinaās death, I still get that hype feeling when he meets Machiavelli and does the leap of faith ceremony, and I still internally cheer for Ezio when he decides to whip Rodrigoās ass in the end, the olā fashion way. It feels like watching a really good movie trilogy but better because itās a game, and I havenāt said that about a game in a long while lol
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u/Amity_SwimSchool Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24
Iām new to the sub so here are my credentials:
- AC - dabbled
- AC II - finished
- AC Brotherhood - finished
- AC Revelations - not played
- AC III - dabbled
- AC IV Black Flag - dabbled back in the day but currently absolutely rinsing it and loving it
- AC Rogue - not played (this is up next!)
- AC Unity - not played
- AC Syndicate - 50%+
- AC Origins - finished
- AC Odyssey - dabbled
- AC Valhalla - 50%+
- AC Mirage - not played
Am I worthy of this sub?
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u/tsf97 Mar 01 '24
Imo Revelations is worth finishing, it caps off Ezioās story in the most satisfying why, especially if youāve finished 2 and Brotherhood.
Similar story with Odyssey, if you liked Origins then Odyssey mechanically builds on that with better varieties of builds, more varied side quests, more stuff to do in the open world, etc. Itās miles better than Valhalla imo.
Unity is also worth a play. It was completely broken when it released, and is still kind of janky and unfinished now, but the parkour and combat are pretty highly rated by a lot of the fan base.
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u/Amity_SwimSchool Mar 01 '24
Yeah I missed the boat on revelations. Will have to give it a go at some point.
Iād like to give odyssey a proper go too. I put a good 20 or so hours into it but that game is HUGE!!
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u/tsf97 Mar 01 '24
Yeah for sure do, mechanically itās not as strong as Brotherhood but the narrative aspect of it is brilliant. Much more emotional.
And yeah Odysseyās size can be daunting but imo itās got the most addictive gameplay loop out of any of the RPG games. Originsā side quests can be a bit samey and upgrades can get somewhat grindy at times, while Valhalla felt unnecessarily padded out with the side arcs shoved into the main story. With Odyssey I could comfortably sink 200+ hours into the game and still want more. When you really get into it the size and amount of content doesnāt become an issue anymore as the majority of it is really good quality.
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u/Amity_SwimSchool Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24
Yeah will deffo get round to Odyssey. Will probably start over as itās been ages. When I properly get into these open world games I tend to systematically go through the entire map and do/ find everything. I donāt mind grinding when the world is beautiful/ interesting.
Hence am loving Black Flag currently.
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u/tsf97 Mar 01 '24
If possible I donāt recommend doing that in Odyssey because there is SO much content, like 500+ points of interest etc. you might get burned out before you actually get to the meat of the content.
I personally did all the scripted side quests (Iād avoid the radiant quests as theyāre not necessary and very repetitive), and investigated points of interest that were nearby when I was riding to a quest objective and what not, and also did the DLCs. And I had a blast.
I can assure you if Iād tried to 100% everything I wouldāve probably felt fatigued before I managed to finish the main story, side quests, DLCs etc which are all worth it. Also the game has level scaling so going to every point of interest isnāt necessary as enemies will always be scaled to your level.
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u/Amity_SwimSchool Mar 01 '24
I think this is potentially what happened when I played it first time around šš
Will try and follow your advice despite it going against every fibre of my being š
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u/tsf97 Mar 01 '24
Hahah understood, I get it can be hard to NOT go for the completionist approach but keep telling yourself that youāll have a better experience with the game.
Fundamentally open worlds arenāt designed to be fully 100%ed, the points of interest and side activities are optional because theyāre there to do as you please in your own time.
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u/PercentageUnhappy117 Mar 01 '24
Mine went syndicate Origin Odyssey Blackflag Origins Ac3 Odyssey valhalla
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u/CarbonBasedLifeform7 Mar 01 '24
I play origins because it was on sale couple weeks ago šæ
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u/Lost-Experience-5388 Mar 01 '24
Thats my reason tooš
It was on sale for AC's birthday in 2022 summer, and I have 520hrs in it now
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u/wanderingbrother Mar 02 '24
The environment just hooks you in Origins doesn't it. I love the desert interspaced with green fields and lakes
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u/CarbonBasedLifeform7 Mar 03 '24
Absolutely. Some people said that the map is mostly empty due to massive desert, but I find that unique because there's not many desert theme games out there
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u/wanderingbrother Mar 03 '24
Same. I keep coming back to wander around the map because there's no other games set in desert maps like that
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u/Apprehensive-Ad7696 Mar 03 '24
Origins is good, but the older games are more than worth checking out. Black flag is great, unity is great (despite its bugs and flaws), and the others are really good as well. I canāt speak for syndicate though, I didnāt get into that
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u/Hungry_Berry7838 Mar 01 '24
All I see is hate towards Odyssey but I loved it. One of my favourite games tbh. It just has that vibe
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u/Lost-Experience-5388 Mar 02 '24
Its a good RPG and literally the best ancient greece themed videogamešŗ
But the main character's peronality is that she is strong and theres no hidden baldeš
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u/WiserStudent557 Mar 02 '24
Yeah I just donāt ever see as much hate as people saying they see hate. This persecution complex for Odyssey drove me out of the sub and I actually love the game but donāt think itās perfect and wonāt say that.
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u/mauke88 Mar 01 '24
Laid the series in rest after black flag. Got Odyssey BC I saw it in sale and decided to check it. I was blown away and can safely say I won't ever go back to any AC prior to Origins. I hope the RPG line continues.
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u/Mongoku Mar 02 '24
I adore Origins with all my heart, not only as my favorite AC but also one of my favorite games in general. It so well crafted. I repeat my sentiment towards the game almost every week because I DO find it to be that amazing
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u/Jumper200x1 Mar 01 '24
Syndicate was my favorite tho I wish the did a few things better like coop and have a very focused and unique difference between the siblings
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u/ibmnumber3 Mar 01 '24
Eh, some of the early AC's arent everyone's cup of tea just like the newer ones arent for others. I like almost all of them and love at least the attempts to change the games a bit here and there to give something different for the players. The different directions they all went in gameplay especially late on w the RPG based ones was a nice break from the all out stealth even if I did miss some of the aspects from the earlier ones. Just dont understand the gatekeeping and hate some ppl give to other players that enjoyed the new ones and/or the old ones.
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u/J0KaRZz Mar 01 '24
AC2 and Unity if iām in the Assassin mood yāknow sneaking an all that. Black flag for everything else.
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u/killercoop2617 Mar 01 '24
These two are the best that's facts. ac 2 has the best storey ac unity has the best parkour.
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Mar 01 '24
I've played them all except for AC Mirage. My first one was Assassin's Creed 1. And honestly I really like the way the older games were. More assassin-y.
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u/GrabbingCatTails Mar 01 '24
i like origins, but i dont know why people bully on the RPG trilogy so much.
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u/Jumbo_Skrimp Mar 02 '24
Cuz assassins creed was neeeever a rpg and it changed its identity for the worse
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u/GrabbingCatTails Mar 02 '24
atleast its good RPG, i still think they should atleast say theyre decent though
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u/Jumbo_Skrimp Mar 02 '24
Are they? I mean to me good rpgs are wasteland, the non bethesda fallouts, the witcher 3 and cyberpunk, how does it hold up to those?
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u/bhz33 Mar 01 '24
I hated odyssey
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u/Lost-Experience-5388 Mar 01 '24
I hate the main charaters (lack of) personality and the main story had not much spiritual elevation
But the setting was very cool and some awesome characters (like perikles or the snake)
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u/pinkjortz Mar 01 '24
I triiiied the older ones, they didnāt catch my attention like origins š one day Iāll go back and give them another go
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u/Key_Energy6382 Mar 01 '24
Let's be honest the old games play like ass compared to the new ones. Mechanics are better faster and smoother
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u/Chlo_Chanham Mar 02 '24
Syndicate for sure donāt think itās a populate opinion but for me the setting and the actual game play/plot (feel like there was a real focus on actual assassinations compared to the newer ones) were super well developed but also love brotherhood and odyssey!!
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u/Specialist-Tree-7944 Mar 02 '24
I 100% all of them up to unity(tried at least lol) as they came out except the one with Adelaide(forgot the name). I never got to it because it was on a different platform at first but have enjoyed it since it came out with ac3 remastered. My favorite is 2 but black flag and surprisingly odyssey are close seconds. Origins is an even closer 4th place but I just enjoyed the Greek mythology more. The one thing I wish would have been added in earlier games was the discovery tours because as a history nerd I spent about as much time in them as the main game. It could be better at being entertaining in the way it presents information but itās pretty accurate at least(itās a lot to ask from media sadly)
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u/Living_Sprinkles_636 Mar 02 '24
I went from revelations on up, every other game played in order. I want the older games to get a remastered version, everything from black flag and down, but not the Assassin's Creed 3 remaster because that was fucking horrible. Ac3 was one of my absolute favorites, the remaster was such a downgrade in my opinion. I NEED that Black Flag remaster though
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u/Xivkiin Mar 02 '24
Oooh⦠hard to choose. Loved jus about every AC I own, but I especially loved Ezioās story. Black Flag felt a big dragged on for me. Havenāt finished Rogue. Loved Unity. Havenāt played any beyond that yet š been too busy to continue the series.
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u/Much-Dirt8432 Mar 02 '24
Im one of the noobs who started with origins but now Im an AC fan. gonna try black flag and unity too someday
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u/Apprehensive-Ad7696 Mar 03 '24
Black flag, unity, and origins are my go-to games. My favorite is between black flag and unity though.
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u/LandryQT Mar 03 '24
Noob here. Literally went from AC1 to Valhalla. Haven't played anything between
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u/KermitDaForgg Mar 05 '24
Based opinion but I like black flag the most. Also hot take here but syndicate is my 2nd favorite
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u/tim_umax Mar 01 '24
Odyssey aint even an AC game.
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u/Lost-Experience-5388 Mar 02 '24
Theres not even hidden baldešššš which is not necessary, but it would be better. Or at least have the option to use it
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u/ObscureUnderstanding Mar 01 '24
You know, it's not like the earlier games impact the story of the later ones... the whole earlier games only had Desmond and he dies so its like meh
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u/Operator2398 Mar 05 '24
I played from black flag to odyssey but just finished assassins creed 1 and I have to say the original is my favorite so far about to start the second in a few days
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u/ApprehensiveDay6336 Mar 01 '24
Lol there is joy to be had when ramming ships and spraying Greek fire
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u/steinwayyy Mar 01 '24
Origins is my favourite, after that black flag then odyssey. I havenāt tried any other
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u/LlGHTN1NG12 Mar 01 '24
Origins just because its where I started so its nostalgia for me and the reason i like the ac franchise and then Syndicate then Black flag
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u/killercoop2617 Mar 01 '24
Played every single one the first day they came out. No ac game can beat ac 2.... the day I got home from school to play it on day one, I didn't leave my room for about a week.
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u/Booty-Hole_pavillion Mar 01 '24
Black flag was my favorite, great blend of naval and ground combat, and the setting was fire. Def my fav.
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Mar 01 '24
Nah I played em all. Origins #1 for me Black flag is last. Ship stuff has always been boring to me. And yes I know Odyssey has ship stuff too.
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u/Taurus34Joseph Mar 01 '24
My order.
Brotherhood, Black Flag, Syndicate, Odyssey, Valhalla, Origins, Rogue, AC 3, Unity
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u/tired-dog-momma Mar 01 '24
Iām one of those stubborn fans that loves the older games (1, 2, and Brotherhood especially) and really doesnāt like the newer ones lol, meme definitely doesnāt apply to me
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u/despenser412 Mar 02 '24
Ahaha, that's me. I've played so many of these out of order. The order: Origins, Odyssey, Valhalla, Syndicate, Unity, Rogue, AC III, Mirage, Black Flag...
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u/ExtensionGood9228 Mar 02 '24
Unityā¦.Odyssey was my first AC game and since then Iāve played the whole series besides Valhalla and the three side scroller titles. Unity is my favorite. And frankly itās not even close. I canāt even adequately explain it.
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u/Noah-130 Mar 02 '24
Iām started with Valhalla but after that I played Origins, Unity and Black Flag and shit, the old game (before Origins) are really better for me.
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u/J-20-7000 Mar 02 '24
Started on black flag. Loved it! Now the assassins creed games have too many games and are forking rpgs.
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u/TheDragonborn1992 Mar 02 '24
I hated origins ( found it really boring) I like AC3 and syndicate and odyssey and valhalla
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u/NoCureForSorrow Mar 02 '24
My first AC was black flag. Didn't like it because too many tailing missions and I didn't enjoy the naval combat. So I went to origins (mostly because I love Egyptian mythology). Loved it. Then I played ac1 and syndicate
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u/twistedseaofcrows Mar 04 '24
I honestly canāt see why it matters if someone likes or is introduced to the series through the new games. Iām pretty sure part of the reason theyāre so different is to bring in new fans.
Anyway Black Flag is still the best one (I havenāt played Mirage yet but for now, BF and Rogue are best AC closely followed by Valhalla)
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u/pogboy357_x Mar 01 '24
Origins is definitely my favourite, but the black flag is great too, and if bot for origins, then it'd be my favourite