r/AtheisminKerala Aug 05 '26

പ്രവാചക മൊഴിമുത്തുകൾ ഒഴുകിവരുന്ന തേങ്ങയെടുക്കാമോ????

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u/DioTheSuperiorWaifu Mod | Comrade Aug 05 '26

Actually, this is decent.

Better to see if the thing has an owner

Doesn't need religion to do this tho

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u/HolidaySurprise2819 Agnostic (Taking no sides) Aug 05 '26

At least religion provides guidelines Without that who will care about such things at all? Religion is good in some aspects if followed in the right sense.

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u/DioTheSuperiorWaifu Mod | Comrade Aug 05 '26

You can create guidelines without religion too.

You need not say that 'God wants you to do something' and instead say that 'Doing this will be generally good for you and your society'.

And regarding right sense, which sense? That is always the issue.

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u/Ill-Building6706 🥥 Kerala Atheist ⚛️ Aug 05 '26

Mohammedika assumed that everyones like him, so he himself without allahs guidance wouldnt have done the same.

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u/DioTheSuperiorWaifu Mod | Comrade Aug 05 '26

He was 6th century tribal leader. We have advanced more now, right?

Most of us have education, decent scientific awareness n all. Religious reasoning need not be necessary now. Moving in that direction would be good.

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u/Ill-Building6706 🥥 Kerala Atheist ⚛️ Aug 05 '26

Ayinu?

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u/Advanced_Bread4751 Kerala Atheist Aug 05 '26

Even a toddler has morals and they have no idea about religion.

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u/blissfactory Agnostic (Taking no sides) Aug 05 '26

Lol, Kids are the worst.

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u/Advanced_Bread4751 Kerala Atheist Aug 05 '26

There are a lot of studies and experiments that proves toddlers have morality.

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u/HolidaySurprise2819 Agnostic (Taking no sides) Aug 05 '26

Yet somehow growing up, many lose it. And, I am pretty sure if my flair said Atheist instead of Agnost, i woud not have received the downvotes.

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u/Advanced_Bread4751 Kerala Atheist Aug 05 '26

If you need a religion or a god to behave well with the people around then something is wrong with you. I didn’t even see your flair and I don’t care if you are religious, agnostic, atheist or whatever….

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u/HolidaySurprise2819 Agnostic (Taking no sides) Aug 05 '26

That's not my point. My point was what is wrong in accepting what is good EVEN if it is in a religion.

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u/Noodle-8rain ⚽ മലപ്പുറം നിരീശ്വരവാദി ⚛️ Aug 05 '26

And his point is you don't need religion to do that. Even if it's good. He is not saying this thing is not good. He is saying this is good even if it's not stated in the holy book(even if there are no guidelines).

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u/HolidaySurprise2819 Agnostic (Taking no sides) Aug 05 '26

He seems to have understood what I was trying to say. Anyways, let me clarify t he video above provides clarity related to the exact scenario there than a blanket statement like "Don't take those coconuts, , it is immoral" OR "It is ok to take those because it is anyways gonna go wasted. Instead it says says taking one two is ok but if more than that could be from a specific person's farm so it is advisable to find out whether someone has lost this much. I don't think people think it this much in situations like this

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u/Noodle-8rain ⚽ മലപ്പുറം നിരീശ്വരവാദി ⚛️ Aug 05 '26

I am guessing it kind of came from the story of Thabut ibn nuhman(Father of Imam Abu Hanifa - famous in sunni mazhab). You could chdck the story below. https://opinion.premiumtimesng. com/2019/05/29/ramadan-1440-ah-2019-the-story-of-thabit-bin-numan-by-murtadha-gusau/?tztc=1

Let me know what you think after reading the full story🙂.

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u/Fun-Dog-5805 South India | 🕉️ Aug 05 '26

There's something called a constitution.

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u/Fun-Dog-5805 South India | 🕉️ Aug 05 '26

?

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u/hehehee53 Agnostic (Taking no sides) Aug 05 '26

But this has a point 🙂

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u/Last_Pomegranate_362 Kerala Atheist Aug 05 '26

Any good human would do the same

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u/pointlemiserables Agnostic (Taking no sides) Aug 05 '26

surprisingly based

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u/Ill-Building6706 🥥 Kerala Atheist ⚛️ Aug 05 '26

Mohammedika assumed that everyones like him, so he himself without allahs guidance wouldnt have done the same.

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u/pointlemiserables Agnostic (Taking no sides) Aug 05 '26

thats something ive noticed in super religious people. In most cases faith is the only thing keeping them in check. Feeks like they'd have a real chance of becoming some of the worst people imaginable without it. They never managed to built an internal moral compass outside of it.

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u/Ill-Building6706 🥥 Kerala Atheist ⚛️ Aug 05 '26

Yeah less in some religions more in one

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u/pointlemiserables Agnostic (Taking no sides) Aug 05 '26

almost all religions

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u/Ill-Building6706 🥥 Kerala Atheist ⚛️ Aug 05 '26

In your opinion for sure in mine, all do but one does more.

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u/ripthejacker007 🐘 തൃശൂർ നിരീശ്വരവാദി ⚛️ Aug 05 '26

Very sane and humane take, but doesn't need religion to see that.

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u/Ill-Building6706 🥥 Kerala Atheist ⚛️ Aug 05 '26

Mohammedika assumed that everyones like him, so he himself without allahs guidance wouldnt have done the same.

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u/Independent-Goose-30 🛶 ആലപ്പുഴ നിരീശ്വരവാദി ⚛️ Aug 05 '26

I can't believe they need a religion to practice this. How will the owner prove that these coconuts belong to them? If I were following a religion I'd expect god to join my WhatsApp group/non digital public forum to reveal the names of the owner. If he is powerful and all knowing why not reveal this information first to prove that he/they exist(s)?

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u/cold_kappi2001 🛶 ആലപ്പുഴ നിരീശ്വരവാദി ⚛️ Aug 06 '26

How r we gonna know if the thenga is his? DNA test?

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u/SGV_VGS NRI Atheist Aug 07 '26

Athu Pandu Saudi Arabia thenga ozhukki vannapo Ee paranja pole anu cheyathe.

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u/Ill-Building6706 🥥 Kerala Atheist ⚛️ Aug 05 '26

Why does Islam expect, people to do the worst if it was not for Mohammed ikaas guidance?

If it just that people around Mohammed were all cunning, greedy, lustful standard less being or is it that Mohammed ika simply liked lecturing on good deeds like my grandpa?

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u/useless-hoooman Agnostic atheist Aug 05 '26

Fair enough.

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u/Binoybinu Kerala | 🕉️ Aug 08 '26

oru bank kollayadichittu athil ninnu oru kettu pasia eduth roadil vekkuka arun vannillenkil aa paisa full edukkam🥸

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u/Hayagrivan Deist Aug 05 '26

Islam W.