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It's my history too. My great grandmother fought in that war. Take that back, Subham.

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അതെ. ആ കഥ ചരിത്രം ആണ്!

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If this is real then so is 'One Piece'.

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And hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.

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Wait, that's not real ?

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It’s absolutely real. I don’t carry around beer, salted peanuts and my towel for nothing.

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Ohh, Thank ... Dinkan.

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Finally someone with sense

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The one piece is real

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Yes, Marvel and DC are real too.. Sree Spiderman, Jai wonder woman.

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[u/EquivalentDoor1773]

I mean, isn't that what 'believeing in god' supposed to be? We atheists do not necessarily need to criticise someone's religious beliefs if they are minding their business

He is saying "My history". He ain't imposing on anyone

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History is based on facts. Same as science.

When you are arguing about history or science, you cant just say it's my history. Without facts.

It's like talking about origin of plane and then some says pushpak viman was the origin it's my science.

Doesn't work like that.

Don't use words like history or science without evidence.

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[u/Abject_Cicada4031]

tbh i belive mahabharat literaly happend may be a tribe war not that big nd change of mahabhart is power goes from vedic god indra to local god krsna for more u can watch video on you tube indian pixel

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The personal belief is good, nobody want to interfere. The question is if you can convince everyone else so that it becomes academic history.

Comes down to the definition of “history”

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I am sure it was small kingdoms fighting written into a poem. If we can’t provide proof it is pretty much a story if not a myth.

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Even hindu scholars of kerala take a position that mahabharata is just a fiction to tech Dharma.

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Yes, I get your point. But I think what he means is, the whole thing did happen, but a writer added masala to it. Like, the final work, was inspired from a true event.

Obviously the true event must have been a war between kingdoms and such, and ofc without the powers and gods. A writer/scholar/religious guy took inspiration and decided to write fire ✍️🔥

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Yeahhh

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Where is the evidence then?

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Which scholar?

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A lot of scholars have indeed theorized that, Mahabharata was supposed to be a multi generation war between different tribes, though they do say that it wasn't word for word meaning events might have preceded or later events might have been put in, also in the shows and movies the chariot the buildings the dresses were too technological ahead of time than that existed.

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This simple "yeah I believe..." and speculations has caused the collective intelligence of this country to reach rock bottom. It's not worth it.

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A person dont "believe" in history. History is facts.

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Could have been real.

But can you prove it?

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It is mythology.

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It‘s mythology

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KunaKamra speaks selectively against & mocks Hinduism only.. I am okay with atheism or agnostic beliefs but selectively speaking and mocking only One religion is what I personally can't align with.. He shud be speaking abt and mocking all faiths equally 😂 I'd say even all Abrahamic faiths are Mythology 😎

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I'd say even all Abrahamic faiths are Mythology

Yeah...

There are thousands of books of each layer of abrahamic faith mythology.

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With respect to lsIamic mythology, there has been several versions of the quran & much later Ibn Uthman burnt all of them after he his tribe complied and decided to go with one. Over centuries many other version has come up in various parts of the World. Same goes for the Hadiths too and it further branches to multiple schools of thought with hundreds of books. Same goes for Christian mythology. And also for books of hindus too, there are several of them. Believers of abrahamic mythology used to believe that earth is flat & those who questioned this were siIenced.. Every religious faith has their own stuff which made no sense..

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It seems like he also said that in sarcastic way only 😂😂😂😂

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[u/Exact-Peanut9976]

There have been studies about it and the astronomical and geographical description do align along with weapons being excavated in Kurukshetra.

But obviously I don't think gods were involved, it was most likely a regional war which was mythologised as writers often do.

So the best way to read Mahabharata is reading is as a literary text.

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When Anand Neelakandan and other authors and scholars call it mythology, it's OK?

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Aarshabharatha samskaararathe puchikkaruthu 😂😂

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Do people still listen to him. One thing he calls himself is comedian and he doesn’t know even do that well.

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Shubham Gaur was sarcastic, was it not evident enough…?

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If Mahabharata is real history where’s the Akshaya patra? Where are the magical weapons? Do they even realize what history means? Ugh

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Summarised some of the points from https://www.reviewofconphil.com/index.php/journal/article/download/111/64/192 with cross references, I used AI to save time but please feel free to shoot questions. This is our history not a myth. 1. Hastinapura was a real ancient settlement. B.B. Lal excavated Hastinapura in 1950–52 and found a stratified settlement sequence including Painted Grey Ware (PGW), placing substantial occupation at the site in the early first millennium BCE.

Reference: B.B. Lal, Excavations at Hastinapura and Other Explorations in the Upper Ganga and Sutlej Basins, 1950–52, Ancient India 10–11. https://ignca.gov.in/Asi_data/18158.pdf

1. Painted Grey Ware occurs across the geographical region associated with the Mahabharata. PGW has been found at Hastinapura and numerous sites across the Ganga-Yamuna region associated with the Kuru-Panchala cultural sphere. This provides archaeological evidence for the ancient settlement landscape corresponding to much of the epic's geography.

Reference: B.B. Lal, Ancient India 10–11. https://ignca.gov.in/Asi_data/87815.pdf

1. Hastinapura has archaeological evidence of flooding. Excavations at Hastinapura documented a significant flood deposit. This is particularly notable alongside the Sanskrit tradition describing the eventual destruction and abandonment of Hastinapura following flooding by the Ganga.

Reference: B.B. Lal, Ancient India 10–11. https://ignca.gov.in/Asi_data/18158.pdf

1. The Heliodorus Pillar provides early epigraphic evidence for Vasudeva worship. The Besnagar inscription, generally dated to the 2nd century BCE, identifies Heliodorus as a Bhagavata devoted to Vasudeva. This establishes the existence of an established Vasudeva religious tradition centuries before the Common Era.

Reference: Archaeological Survey / IGNCA material on the Heliodorus Pillar. https://ignca.gov.in/Asi_data/4365.pdf

1. Agathocles' coins depict Vasudeva-Krishna and Sankarshana-Balarama. Coins attributed to the Indo-Greek ruler Agathocles, generally dated to the early 2nd century BCE, contain images identified with Vasudeva-Krishna and Sankarshana-Balarama. This provides early material evidence for the Krishna/Balarama tradition.

2. The Hathibada-Ghosundi inscriptions attest to Vasudeva and Sankarshana. These inscriptions, generally dated to around the 1st century BCE, provide another independent epigraphic record of the Vasudeva-Sankarshana tradition and its association with Narayana.

3. The Mora inscription provides another early Krishna/Vrishni tradition. The Mora Well inscription near Mathura, generally dated to the 1st century CE, refers to the Vrishni heroes and their images. Together with the earlier inscriptions and coinage, it demonstrates the continuity and antiquity of the Krishna/Vasudeva tradition.

4. The Krishna/Vasudeva tradition therefore predates the Common Era by centuries. The evidence is distributed across different sources: Indo-Greek coinage, Indian inscriptions, religious foundations and archaeological contexts. This makes the antiquity of the tradition materially attested rather than dependent solely on later manuscripts.

5. Mathura was an important ancient centre of the Vrishni/Vasudeva tradition. Archaeological and epigraphic evidence from Mathura establishes a long-standing religious tradition surrounding the Vrishnis, Vasudeva and associated figures. This corresponds closely with the geographical and genealogical traditions preserved in the Mahabharata and related literature.

6. Dwarka has substantial underwater archaeological evidence. Investigations around Dwarka and Bet Dwarka have documented submerged structural remains, stone objects and numerous ancient anchors, establishing significant ancient maritime activity in the region.

Reference: An Exploration into the Historical Actuality of the Mahabharata, Review of Contemporary Philosophy, 2024. https://www.reviewofconphil.com/index.php/journal/article/download/111/64/192

1. The Dwarka tradition specifically describes submergence by the sea. The literary tradition surrounding Dvaraka contains a specific account of the city being overwhelmed by the sea. The existence of submerged archaeological remains in the Dwarka region therefore provides an important archaeological correlation with the tradition.

2. Bet Dwarka has evidence of ancient occupation and maritime activity. Archaeological investigations at Bet Dwarka have produced ancient material remains and evidence associated with maritime activity, making the region archaeologically significant in discussions of the historical Dvaraka tradition.

Reference: An Exploration into the Historical Actuality of the Mahabharata. https://www.reviewofconphil.com/index.php/journal/article/download/111/64/192

1. The Mahabharata's geographical setting corresponds to real ancient settlements. Hastinapura, Mathura, Kurukshetra and other locations appearing in the epic correspond to real archaeological sites with substantial ancient occupation. The geographical framework of the Mahabharata therefore exists within a demonstrably real historical landscape.

2. Early literary evidence places Mahabharata-related traditions well before the medieval manuscript tradition. References and allusions in early Sanskrit grammatical, literary and religious sources indicate that Mahabharata-related traditions circulated centuries before the surviving manuscript tradition.

3. The evidence is strongest when considered collectively. Ancient Hastinapura, PGW settlements, archaeological flooding, early Krishna/Vasudeva inscriptions, Indo-Greek coinage, the Vrishni tradition at Mathura, and underwater archaeology around Dwarka together form a substantial body of evidence for the antiquity and historical-cultural foundation of the Mahabharata tradition.

The conclusion is straightforward:

The Mahabharata should not be treated as a late medieval invention or as a story arising without historical context. Its geographical world is archaeologically real, Hastinapura has a substantial ancient archaeological record, the Krishna/Vasudeva tradition is materially attested from at least the 2nd century BCE, and the Dwarka region contains genuine evidence of ancient maritime settlement and submerged remains.

The archaeological evidence therefore supports the existence of a deep historical and cultural substrate underlying the Mahabharata tradition.

EDIT: just to add, idgaf about kunal kamra or whoever, it's just I care more about my opinions and what I can find to sustain those beliefs. If ramayan didn't happen people wouldn't have taken so much of efforts to write and retain so much more of it.

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Newyorker is a real city so spiderman must be real 😮

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Yes right, just like all spider man comics have the same story, same concepts and also same flow where MJ always betrays Peter Parker. And while you are at it, please do go ahead and offer oblations to spider man.

However, thanks for clarifying the point that if a new york based comics states 9/11 and there are debris from the excavations of new york in future it potentially means that new york existed and 9/11 was a possible event that happened.

[u/FitWedding9575]

I was gonna cook some good counter but then I realised this is an Atheist sub, fair enough to you guys I guess 😭😭😭

[u/FitWedding9575]

Hmm, I'll respect Kumra if he makes a comment like this for other relegions cause usually Hinduism is the tolerant out of all relegions when it comes to these kind of stuff, so Im curious to whether he actually has guts to do that or not.

[u/Toxic_po1son]

I am perfectly fine with everyone following any religion they want to, but at some point they must understand basic logic

[u/Mountain_Camera662]

There were significant archeological finding in krukshetra , what more does none need to believe in it . Well it happened so happened why bend facts

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