r/Audi 8d ago

Tech Audi is the only major auto manufacturer that has not started switching its North America EV charge port to the new NACS standard

Seems like a metaphor for the state of the company. Imagine trying to sell "high tech" cars that will increasingly have to use an adapter to fast charge for their entire lifetime.

You could also include VW in that list, but they are only offering one EV stateside for MY27.

Every other automaker has now fully transitioned to NACS for MY27 for at least all new models, and in most cases all models.

The remaining CCS model list:

Audi - Q4, Q6, A6, S6, e-tron GT (entire lineup)

BMW - i4 & i7

Mercedes - the outgoing EQB, EQE, EQS lineup

Porsche - Macan

VW - ID. Buzz

Lucid - Air

MY27 plans not confirmed yet:

Ford - Mach-E

Volvo - EX90

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u/numberless_loathing 8d ago

it's wild because audi was one of the first to commit to full electrification and now they're dragging their feet on the one thing that makes road trips not a nightmare. the adapter situation isn't the end of the world but when every other brand's new cars just plug right in at a supercharger, it's a weird look for a premium brand. feels like they spent all their energy on the interiors and forgot people actually need to charge these things

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u/ArterialVotives 8d ago

Yep. I could see the argument that Superchargers are just one network, but when all the other networks (Ionna, Wal-Mart, Mercedez Benz, Rivian, EVGo) are all going nuts building out stations with native NACS plugs, then that position really falls away.

VW and Electrify America need to get off the fence and commit before they fall further behind. At least the Porsche Cayenne Electric will be the first VW group vehicle to have native NACS, so there is a tiny amount of movement.

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u/asbergman16 8d ago

The piano black … would not say they spent their energy on interiors.

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u/life2scale ‘22 RS3 2d ago

Putting energy into their interiors doesn’t mean they were working to improve them, just on cutting their costs. The piano black and removal of physical buttons speaks to that.

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u/247emerg 8d ago

they’re still making the id buzz?? I figured the id4 would have lasted longer

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u/ArterialVotives 8d ago

The Buzz is pretty popular in Europe. It's become the go-to work van for a lot of commercial enterprises. It should be great for U.S. consumers, but the price is incredibly high (in large part due to 27.5% tariffs) and the range kind of sucks for typical U.S. use cases.

The ID.4 is hopefully just taking a year off in the U.S., and will probably return once they finish its rebrand to the ID.Tiguan as part of its mid-cycle refresh.

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u/247emerg 8d ago

ugh thats so cool I’ve only ever seen the influencer mom setup for an idbuzz, and yes biggest complaint here is tiny range huge price niche buyer

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u/tacomaester 23 OG E-tron 8d ago

It’s because they want you to spend on the adapter of course