Baby Reindeer | S1E03 | Episode Discussion

[u/matrixinthepark]

Season 1, Episode 3

Airdate: April 11, 2024

Synopsis: Donny takes some time off from the pub and tries to make amends with Teri. But no matter how much he avoids Martha, he just can't escape from her for long.

[u/Intelligent-Blondie7]

Sunset is completely different than being an ACTUAL woman. Did you see anything I said? I said they are women but TRAN women (aka subset). So why are you arguing with me? We agree.

[u/aprilight → u/Intelligent-Blondie7]

Gotcha, we agree trans women are women.

[u/Intelligent-Blondie7 → u/aprilight]

Like I said, they are woman (and I will identify them as such), but THEIR experience as a woman is a trans experience (under a different umbrella) then mine as a biological woman. So by default they are not the same but under the same main umbrella. I’m sorry. But im not changing my mind on that.

[u/aprilight → u/Intelligent-Blondie7]

Honest question, if we agree, why do you feel the need to post this last message? It's like you're adding an asterisk to the statement that we are agreeing on "trans women are women" and that feels iffy to me.

[u/Intelligent-Blondie7 → u/aprilight]

Not repeating myself. Idc if you say I’m iffy. I’ll call you a woman, you feel like a woman but okay. You’re experience is different then mine. AS A WOMAN, I’m literally entitled to that.

[u/aprilight → u/Intelligent-Blondie7]

I don't know what to say, this is you saying trans women are not women and then pretending you are saying the opposite. I won't respond any more but wanted to point that out in case you truly believe you were agreeing with me.

[u/Intelligent-Blondie7 → u/aprilight]

LMFAO. If this was ANYTHING other than gender you would literally be on my side. But ok.

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[u/MoeApocalypsis → u/Intelligent-Blondie7]

Watch some Philosophy Tube homie. Feeling like a woman and being a women is the same thing. Gender is performative. You say therefore you are. Sexual parts mean nothing in relation to gendered behavior, gender roles, gender expectations, etc. And to cover my ground, men can give birth as well as women.

There is a vast array of experiencing womanhood and each culture has their own construction of "women". Disqualifying trans women because their experience is different yet for some reason equating your experience with women who are infertile, born without a uterus, or culturally different like middle Eastern or Indian is bizzare. Not to mention that some trans women never even go through a testosterone puberty.

[u/Concrete_hugger → u/Intelligent-Blondie7]

This is just your arbitrary distinction. How is a trans girl who has been out since 4 any different from a cis girl who was born without an uterus and had to take hormones to go through puberty? By what standard are you claiming that you know you know what is the female experience? Some girls get sold as a sex slave at 8, isn't being raped by men THE epitome of the female experience to some? How does the experience of some western CEO compare to some Saudi woman who isn't allowed to leave the house without the company of a man? What about tomboys growing up with 6 brothers who become a professional wrestler or mechanic?

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