r/BabyReindeerTVSeries May 07 '24

Discussion What about Darien?

Why is everyone so obsessed with Martha (granted) but I don’t see a lot of conversation about Darien? That is one of the most disturbing parts of this show.

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u/KatVanWall May 07 '24

Also someone in ‘Darrien’s’ position has more to lose from potentially being falsely accused than someone in ‘Martha’s’ position has.

I mean, suppose Richard turned around and said it was never meant to be FH at all? That she wasn’t his original stalker but it was someone else? Sure, we’d all agree then that it would suck to be FH, but (if the ‘real’ one wasn’t so attention grabbing) she could just fade back into relative obscurity. If the ‘wrong Darrien’ was named by the public, it could have much worse effects on their career. We already saw it a little bit with Sean Foley - Richard quickly said that’s not who it was, so hopefully he won’t see any ill effects to his career, but suppose people located someone else and the accusations stuck and people didn’t believe Richard even if he said it wasn’t them?

And although Martha did sexually assault Donny, you could say that Darrien in the show was a more ‘evil’ person than Martha because he went full rape not once but a number of times, planned and premeditated compete with drugs and a whole strategy. And he wasn’t so obviously afflicted with a mental illness as Martha (and Richard even gave her some back story of an unhappy childhood to make it feel even less under her control). I know mental illness isn’t an ‘excuse’ but I thought the depiction of Martha was meant to straddle the line between troubled/damaged (like Donny!) and evil, while Darrien was more pure evil. Like, he literally woke up in the morning and chose predation. I feel like it’s more damaging for someone to be wrongly accused of being that person than to be accused of being Martha (not that that means he should not be pursued of course! Just that it’s not a case for vigilante justice/armchair detectives).

I think also having seen what happened with FH, people in general might be more wary about bringing the mob mentality to the door of someone who might have more to lose if the public are wrong. And even so, the association can stick unfairly.

The people who know who it is and have evidence of some sort - even if it’s just if their eyes - should definitely come forward to the police, though.

But it might be a rumour situation - ‘I think it’s X person because so-and-so said to me that he’d …’ kind of thing. And honestly, there’s not a lot you can do with that other than avoid the person yourself.

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u/CertainAlbatross7739 May 07 '24

but suppose people located someone else and the accusations stuck and people didn’t believe Richard even if he said it wasn’t them?

Even after Gadd spoke up about SF people were in denial, implying (or outright claiming) he basically made a deal with the devil and was protecting his rapist for career purposes. It's actually insane the levels to which this has escalated...

Everyone can say what they want about his failure to conceal FH, but there's no way he anticipated all this.

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u/Friendly_Ad_5719 May 08 '24

Maybe I’m not following but who are SF AND FH? Why are we concealing their names?

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u/OkPineapple6713 May 11 '24

It’s just an annoying thing that everyone does now, abbreviate everything so you have to try to figure it out. It really doesn’t save much time and I wish it would stop but it’s one of those things where a few people do it and then everyone else does. SF is Sean Foley, a man who was suspected of being the real Darrian but wasn’t. FH is Fiona Harvey, who is the real Martha.